Richmond/Montreal Trade(VOID)

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Re: Richmond/Montreal Trade

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nick wrote:im sayin that the league is taking a direction where this shit is lame as fuck.
I once again ask not only you but every single one of you during this time period to put your complaints and thoughts into some sort of proposal or plan.

It's the offseason and the time we should be utilizing to have proposals, votes, and discussion on enhancements to the league.

Continually complaining and yet offering no solutions does no good for anyone.

I am 100% sure people would be in an uproar if I started making decisions that impact the entire league without any input and on my own opinions but glad to do so if you want.
you mean like every commish did before you? Reign/Trendon did a lot of things behind the scenes for the betterment of this league. You're commish for more reasons than just pressing the sim button.
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Re: Richmond/Montreal Trade

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I think most of the guys here, even with their dislike for you, will still vote for what is best for the league.

Sure, maybe I am naive but it has been shown to happen in the past and I think it will continue to.
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Cnasty wrote:
nick wrote:im sayin that the league is taking a direction where this shit is lame as fuck.
I once again ask not only you but every single one of you during this time period to put your complaints and thoughts into some sort of proposal or plan.

It's the offseason and the time we should be utilizing to have proposals, votes, and discussion on enhancements to the league.

Continually complaining and yet offering no solutions does no good for anyone.

I am 100% sure people would be in an uproar if I started making decisions that impact the entire league without any input and on my own opinions but glad to do so if you want.
Good post C
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You're saying what Trendon did and this are similar... Didn't you back Trendon on that issue ?
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Cnasty wrote:I think most of the guys here, even with their dislike for you, will still vote for what is best for the league.

Sure, maybe I am naive but it has been shown to happen in the past and I think it will continue to.
I think the 2 coach votes from me and then Nick proved Nick correct.

There was literally no other reason the votes would sway the way they did.
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Cnasty wrote: I am 100% sure people would be in an uproar if I started making decisions that impact the entire league without any input and on my own opinions but glad to do so if you want.
you mean like every commish did before you? Reign/Trendon did a lot of things behind the scenes for the betterment of this league. You're commish for more reasons than just pressing the sim button.
You comparing "tweaks" to placing a league changing/financial establishment upheaval is why you wonder why most dont take you seriously.
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did Reign not put some weird ass salary cap on the league? pretty sure he didnt run that by us.
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Cnasty wrote:I think most of the guys here, even with their dislike for you, will still vote for what is best for the league.

Sure, maybe I am naive but it has been shown to happen in the past and I think it will continue to.
I think the 2 coach votes from me and then Nick proved Nick correct.

There was literally no other reason the votes would sway the way they did.
I dont.

If I post the poll, which i am more than happy to do, they will know where it stemmed from and it wont matter.
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nick wrote:did Reign not put some weird ass salary cap on the league? pretty sure he didnt run that by us.
Nope. Just amount of cash on hand each team can max at and yes we had full length discussions on that and input provided before we did that.
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Cnasty wrote:
shel311 wrote:
Cnasty wrote:I think most of the guys here, even with their dislike for you, will still vote for what is best for the league.

Sure, maybe I am naive but it has been shown to happen in the past and I think it will continue to.
I think the 2 coach votes from me and then Nick proved Nick correct.

There was literally no other reason the votes would sway the way they did.
I dont.

If I post the poll, which i am more than happy to do, they will know where it stemmed from and it wont matter.
what do u think the reason was then for the large discrepancy in votes?
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Not saying I'd quit but this 100% decreases my interest. At this point I don't see any reason to go out and try to better my team, call it selfish, whatever...I don't mind the 200 mil payrolls or even the 225-250, but we're 2.5x above a given budget. Isn't that a bit far fetched in realm of realism? No owner would approve it. If projected revenue was 190 mil there's no way anyone approves 375 mil in expenses.
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I think there was honestly still confusion from the wording and the actual requirements. Even when changed people still might have been confused.

I think you have posted polls before and they were approved or at least looked at rationally.

I dont think nick has ever made a poll and assumes something that truly cannot be vetted until there is something to show that.
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dusters06 wrote:Not saying I'd quit but this 100% decreases my interest. At this point I don't see any reason to go out and try to better my team, call it selfish, whatever...I don't mind the 200 mil payrolls or even the 225-250, but we're 2.5x above a given budget. Isn't that a bit far fetched in realm of realism? No owner would approve it. If projected revenue was 190 mil there's no way anyone approves 375 mil in expenses.
He didn't make the playoffs, so how does he payroll matter to whether you'll try to make your team better or not?
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Let alone showing a team with 87 wins winning the title with a top 10 payroll.
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shel311 wrote:
dusters06 wrote:Not saying I'd quit but this 100% decreases my interest. At this point I don't see any reason to go out and try to better my team, call it selfish, whatever...I don't mind the 200 mil payrolls or even the 225-250, but we're 2.5x above a given budget. Isn't that a bit far fetched in realm of realism? No owner would approve it. If projected revenue was 190 mil there's no way anyone approves 375 mil in expenses.
He didn't make the playoffs, so how does he payroll matter to whether you'll try to make your team better or not?
Seriously, that makes no sense. You just beat Corey who is the most stacked team I have ever seen.
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Re: Richmond/Montreal Trade

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wdoupis wrote:
shel311 wrote:
dusters06 wrote:Not saying I'd quit but this 100% decreases my interest. At this point I don't see any reason to go out and try to better my team, call it selfish, whatever...I don't mind the 200 mil payrolls or even the 225-250, but we're 2.5x above a given budget. Isn't that a bit far fetched in realm of realism? No owner would approve it. If projected revenue was 190 mil there's no way anyone approves 375 mil in expenses.
He didn't make the playoffs, so how does he payroll matter to whether you'll try to make your team better or not?
Seriously, that makes no sense. You just beat Corey who is the most stacked team I have ever seen.
Right. But the non playoff team makes you want to not get better?

I don't get it at all
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Montreal had a better record than the AL White and Red winner tho. He didnt make it cause we reward division winners a spot. or else hes in as a 5 seed.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Fina ... egulations

Fifty per cent of clubs are losing money and this is an increasing trend. We needed to stop this downward spiral. They have spent more than they have earned in the past and haven't paid their debts. We don't want to kill or hurt the clubs; on the contrary, we want to help them in the market. The teams who play in our tournaments have unanimously agreed to our principles…living within your means is the basis of accounting but it hasn't been the basis of football for years now. The owners are asking for rules because they can't implement them themselves - many of them have had it with shoveling money into clubs and the more money you put into clubs, the harder it is to sell at a profit
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Re: Richmond/Montreal Trade

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the NBA rule for trading over the limit is within 10%. add up the sides, and if they dont match then u decline the deal. or within 25% even (give more leeway)
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Re: Richmond/Montreal Trade

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I've said it before, and will again, I do think we need something.

It needs to be easy for owners to recognize when trading
Easy to be policed
Fair to continue trade avenues open
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