Crowes wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:10 pm
Doesn't the massive scope of the number people that would have to be involved to pull off conspiracy theories like this disprove them from the get go?
Are they conspiracy theories if there is video evidence of it and nurses talking to the doctors about it? I don't think it's as widespread as she makes it sound but I do not doubt that there are a lot of "corona cases" that are not corona cases, I believe I touched on that before in this thread. It has to do with money, and if a public hospital is monetarily incentivized to code something as a corona case I am sure they would.
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:39 pm
by nick
Lmaoooo
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:40 pm
by nick
My buddy’s 30 year old brother died of covid. I wish I could punch you in the face
Crowes wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:10 pm
Doesn't the massive scope of the number people that would have to be involved to pull off conspiracy theories like this disprove them from the get go?
Are they conspiracy theories if there is video evidence of it and nurses talking to the doctors about it? I don't think it's as widespread as she makes it sound but I do not doubt that there are a lot of "corona cases" that are not corona cases, I believe I touched on that before in this thread. It has to do with money, and if a public hospital is monetarily incentivized to code something as a corona case I am sure they would.
I guess so...... I mean you can think what u want to but there still would have to be some massive conspiracy coordination in alot of hospitals for the numbers to be in anyway significant and with the digital age we live in wouldn't there be proof easily found of administrators being directed to do this stuff.
Maybe some of the healthcare people in these parts might chime in if it's even possible to pull something like this off and cover their tracks. I mean wouldn't Trump's government be foaming at the mouth if they could prove something like this is going on so that it fits their narrative.
The only financial incentive tied to the number of corona patients is threw Medicare and it's only an increase of 20% of the normal rate they would get. So if the patients aren't in Medicare there is no incentive to misclassify from what I've read. And with the a little over 50% of the hospitalations are people under 65 thats a large group of people that have nothing tied to being misclassified with covid. Maybe there is some other incentive out there I missed that you know about?
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:52 pm
by GeorgesGoons
nick wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:40 pm
My buddy’s 30 year old brother died of covid. I wish I could punch you in the face
Crowes wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:10 pm
Doesn't the massive scope of the number people that would have to be involved to pull off conspiracy theories like this disprove them from the get go?
Are they conspiracy theories if there is video evidence of it and nurses talking to the doctors about it? I don't think it's as widespread as she makes it sound but I do not doubt that there are a lot of "corona cases" that are not corona cases, I believe I touched on that before in this thread. It has to do with money, and if a public hospital is monetarily incentivized to code something as a corona case I am sure they would.
I guess so...... I mean you can think what u want to but there still would have to be some massive conspiracy coordination in alot of hospitals for the numbers to be in anyway significant and with the digital age we live in wouldn't there be proof easily found of administrators being directed to do this stuff.
Maybe some of the healthcare people in these parts might chime in if it's even possible to pull something like this off and cover their tracks. I mean wouldn't Trump's government be foaming at the mouth if they could prove something like this is going on so that it fits their narrative.
The only financial incentive tied to the number of corona patients is threw Medicare and it's only an increase of 20% of the normal rate they would get. So if the patients aren't in Medicare there is no incentive to misclassify from what I've read. And with the a little over 50% of the hospitalations are people under 65 thats a large group of people that have nothing tied to being misclassified with covid. Maybe there is some other incentive out there I missed that you know about?
You do know medicaide is for peoe under the age of retirement right? There is already studies and stats that lower income people, people of color are dying at a higher rate than people of means right? Just because you aren't on Medicare doesn't mean the government isnt paying the medical costs, so it could be beneficial for hospitals to code things as corona that aren't. Not saying it's widespread but I doubt the 130k+ are all covid deaths. I watched another nurse talking about malpractice of so called covid cases that were labeled covid deaths
Crowes wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:10 pm
Doesn't the massive scope of the number people that would have to be involved to pull off conspiracy theories like this disprove them from the get go?
Are they conspiracy theories if there is video evidence of it and nurses talking to the doctors about it? I don't think it's as widespread as she makes it sound but I do not doubt that there are a lot of "corona cases" that are not corona cases, I believe I touched on that before in this thread. It has to do with money, and if a public hospital is monetarily incentivized to code something as a corona case I am sure they would.
I guess so...... I mean you can think what u want to but there still would have to be some massive conspiracy coordination in alot of hospitals for the numbers to be in anyway significant and with the digital age we live in wouldn't there be proof easily found of administrators being directed to do this stuff.
Maybe some of the healthcare people in these parts might chime in if it's even possible to pull something like this off and cover their tracks. I mean wouldn't Trump's government be foaming at the mouth if they could prove something like this is going on so that it fits their narrative.
The only financial incentive tied to the number of corona patients is threw Medicare and it's only an increase of 20% of the normal rate they would get. So if the patients aren't in Medicare there is no incentive to misclassify from what I've read. And with the a little over 50% of the hospitalations are people under 65 thats a large group of people that have nothing tied to being misclassified with covid. Maybe there is some other incentive out there I missed that you know about?
I'm just curious, did you watch the 70 minute video?
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:26 am
by nick
1 day into the MLS Tournament and Nashville SC is pulling out because of positive covid cases.. 1 fucking day...
Don Garber tells ESPN that Nashville SC could be removed from the tournament following a Covid-19 outbreak in the team. Sounds like a decision will be made in the morning.
Crowes wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:10 pm
Doesn't the massive scope of the number people that would have to be involved to pull off conspiracy theories like this disprove them from the get go?
Are they conspiracy theories if there is video evidence of it and nurses talking to the doctors about it? I don't think it's as widespread as she makes it sound but I do not doubt that there are a lot of "corona cases" that are not corona cases, I believe I touched on that before in this thread. It has to do with money, and if a public hospital is monetarily incentivized to code something as a corona case I am sure they would.
I guess so...... I mean you can think what u want to but there still would have to be some massive conspiracy coordination in alot of hospitals for the numbers to be in anyway significant and with the digital age we live in wouldn't there be proof easily found of administrators being directed to do this stuff.
Maybe some of the healthcare people in these parts might chime in if it's even possible to pull something like this off and cover their tracks. I mean wouldn't Trump's government be foaming at the mouth if they could prove something like this is going on so that it fits their narrative.
The only financial incentive tied to the number of corona patients is threw Medicare and it's only an increase of 20% of the normal rate they would get. So if the patients aren't in Medicare there is no incentive to misclassify from what I've read. And with the a little over 50% of the hospitalations are people under 65 thats a large group of people that have nothing tied to being misclassified with covid. Maybe there is some other incentive out there I missed that you know about?
You do know medicaide is for peoe under the age of retirement right? There is already studies and stats that lower income people, people of color are dying at a higher rate than people of means right? Just because you aren't on Medicare doesn't mean the government isnt paying the medical costs, so it could be beneficial for hospitals to code things as corona that aren't. Not saying it's widespread but I doubt the 130k+ are all covid deaths. I watched another nurse talking about malpractice of so called covid cases that were labeled covid deaths
You do know the majority of those people are children right? Not exactly a big demographic for covid hospitalizations.
You keep prefacing your conspiracy theorys you buy into with you don't think it's widespread. If it's not widespread and thus not skewing the data in any meaningful way who gives a crap about it and why do u keep bringing it up? Yes people commit fraud and water is wet....
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:17 am
by GeorgesGoons
Did you watch the whole video? I'm guessing not since you are avoiding the question. I'm not spreading a conspiracy theory, I even said it's probably not as wide spread as she said. But hey, I wouldn't expect you to understand or comprehend anything someone writes if you don't agree with their political views, comrade
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:16 pm
by Crowes
GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:17 am
Did you watch the whole video? I'm guessing not since you are avoiding the question. I'm not spreading a conspiracy theory, I even said it's probably not as wide spread as she said. But hey, I wouldn't expect you to understand or comprehend anything someone writes if you don't agree with their political views, comrade
I did my due diligence and googled the woman when you first posted it to see if there was any chance of it being relevant in any way and what do ya know the woman has a well documented history of being coco for cocoa puffs so no I didn't waste an hour watching ur vid.
You have been bringing up this mess way before the video to write off the seriousness of covid.
Since it isn't happening right outside ur door it can't be true right? It's the logic for alot of people where I live and I assume you too...
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:35 pm
by cougnix
Here you go George
I have no idea the credibility of either video, but conspiracy on a global scale? Really?
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:51 pm
by GeorgesGoons
cougnix wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:35 pm
Here you go George
I have no idea the credibility of either video, but conspiracy on a global scale? Really?
I watched this video as well. All he wants you to do is go to his webpage and read anonymous write in's from "doctors" and "nurses"
Like I said, you should watch the video. It's hard to dispute hidden video evidence compared to his anonymous write ins.
As far as she being coocoo. She's an anti-vaxer and she has some other conspiracy theories but that doesn't negate her videos and the other nurses she is talking with that collaborates what she is saying in them.
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:47 pm
by nick
She's an anti-vaxer
and you kept listening?
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:08 pm
by GeorgesGoons
nick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:47 pm
She's an anti-vaxer
and you kept listening?
Being an antivaxer (which I'm against) doesn't go against what the video shows
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:23 pm
by nick
gonna suck when whatever it is youre looking for in the vids (covid hoax id assume) lumps u in the same category as Anti Vaxxers..
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:41 pm
by cougnix
I actually prefer to talk to the close people in my life that are working in hospitals to tell me what is happening. like I stated I don't know the validity of either video and more and more I don't trust anything online. Personally I'm not sure about the shut down, but I find it hard to believe a global pandemic was orchestrated because of America. And that would have to be the accusation, not China, not Russia, AMERICA. Based on global statistics (if they are true) Americans have proven the elitist, entitled, stubborn characteristics of our culture. I'm disappointed in our government leadership and many levels, but I know I'm going to do what I can to keep me safe, my family safe and the people I care about safe. I would love to get back to normal, but the "experts" on the internet are failing us all
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:02 am
by nick
The CDC changes the estimated Infection Fatality Ratio from 0.26% to 0.65% in their latest 'Pandemic Planning Scenarios' revision
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:31 pm
by nick
Njoo said while Canada typically records around 300 new COVID-19 cases daily, the United States records over 60,000 cases per day.
you guys are dreadful at doing things right.
Re: COVID-19
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:44 pm
by GeorgesGoons
nick wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:31 pm
Njoo said while Canada typically records around 300 new COVID-19 cases daily, the United States records over 60,000 cases per day.
you guys are dreadful at doing things right.
Greater NYC population is almost as much as all of Canada. Not hard to keep outbreaks down when the population density is 11 people per square mile (94 per square mile in the US).
