COVID-19

[shel311]

"I don't regret anything I said then because in the context of the time in which I said it, it was correct. We were told in our task force meetings that we have a serious problem with the lack of PPEs," he said.


Like I said. Worldwide shortage.

Nope, he admitted he lied, kinda the opposite of being correct.

He did not say don't wear masks because there is a worldwide shortage. He said don' wear masks because they don't help, which is not correct if you believed him after he flip flopped and said do wear masks because they do help.

[nick]

Do we have an official link to him saying this cause when I google I can’t find it and apparently it was taken out of context.

[nick]

Oh wait it’s on factcheck.org where it says it was taken out of context. My bad. A reputable site said it. Carry on

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/outda ... f-context/

[ReignOnU]

"I don't regret anything I said then because in the context of the time in which I said it, it was correct. We were told in our task force meetings that we have a serious problem with the lack of PPEs," he said.


Like I said. Worldwide shortage.

Here's the issue that people don't trust... he's promoted things as absolutes, erring on the side of caution, then changed stances. We don't know a helluva lot more than we did in April. So people are skeptical when he makes his declarations now. That isn't a massive reach that people would be skeptical.

[Crowes]

if we had any semblance of a coherent strategy on a national level that was able to drown out all the vodoo doctors on social media but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be in the cards.

Right or wrong, that went out the window the moment Fauci dropped the ball and he lied to Americans(later admitted to lying) when he told Americans not to wear masks because they won't help.

C'mon now man as much as you like to beat that context Bible does it really need to be explained why that is ridiculous..

[nick]

Quick Take
An outdated video clip of Dr. Anthony Fauci is circulating on social media — giving the false impression he is currently advising the public not to wear face masks. Fauci, like other health officials, recommends wearing a cloth face covering when distances of at least six feet can’t be maintained.

The cucks are wrong again. Shocker

[nick]

Full Story
On April 3, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reversed its earlier position on the use of face masks during the COVID-19 pandemic and announced that it was now recommending that people should wear face coverings in public, citing new studies on the transmission of the virus that causes COVID-19.

“We now know from recent studies that a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms (‘asymptomatic’) and that even those who eventually develop symptoms (‘pre-symptomatic’) can transmit the virus to others before showing symptoms,” the CDC said in its announcement. “In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.”

Despite the new guidance, dubious Facebook pages and groups — some of which advocate alternative medicines, conspiracy theories and anti-vaccination messages — have been recently circulating an outdated recommendation on the use of face masks. The pages are sharing a March 8 video clip from CBS’ “60 Minutes” showing Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, saying: “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask.”

But at that point in early March, the CDC recommended conserving face masks, which were in short supply, for health care workers and those who had COVID-19 and were showing symptoms. So, Fauci gave an answer that was in line with CDC recommendations at that time.

[nick]

Worldwide shortage of masks. When will Americans grasp this concept? We had no masks in the TDSB for a month cause we kept donating them to hospitals.

[shel311]

C'mon now man as much as you like to beat that context Bible does it really need to be explained why that is ridiculous..

it's ridiculous for me to say that Fauci admitted to deceiving Americans into not wearing masks by saying they won't help so we wouldn't have a shortage?


You'll have to take that up with Fauci, he said it. I'm just repeating what he said.

[shel311]

Quick Take
An outdated video clip of Dr. Anthony Fauci is circulating on social media — giving the false impression he is currently advising the public not to wear face masks. Fauci, like other health officials, recommends wearing a cloth face covering when distances of at least six feet can’t be maintained.

The cucks are wrong again. Shocker

Not sure what you're talking about, your link you provided has a quote with Fauci stating,

There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.

What exactly are you trying to say? Because your link is saying the opposite of what you're telling us.

[shel311]

But at that point in early March, the CDC recommended conserving face masks, which were in short supply, for health care workers and those who had COVID-19 and were showing symptoms. So, Fauci gave an answer that was in line with CDC recommendations at that time.

Right, and again, Fauci has later admitted he intentionally misled the public by telling them masks wouldn't help because of the shortage.

That happened, he admitted it.

Again, nick says he'll believe Fauck every day and twice on Sundays, but he won't believe something Fauci has admitted.

[ReignOnU]

I don't think I'll find my initial comments on Fauci in here, but I'm fairly certain that I explained what the issue with him was going to be within 2 weeks of him talking at the podium. Nick wants to hype him as THE EXPERT in the US, as if there aren't others. You know... maybe he is, maybe he's 1 of many, but he has the position, so we'll just go with it. While Fauci is the expert with this, what he isn't, is someone that deals in emotion, communication to the public, and he doesn't look at, nor care about impacts outside of the virus. It was apparent in his early conferences that he was very non-committal, that he preferred to talk about worst case scenarios, and he directly said that he was only concerned about the virus and nothing else. The moment I heard all of that, I completely believed that he shouldn't be up there taking questions, because there was no chance that his words wouldn't be taken out of context or used to fan the fire. To me, it's not that what he said was right/wrong from a scientific standpoint, but it was wrong on how/who/when he was delivering the message. He, like many scientists and folks in data fields, is a hard C or S type personality. That's not what you're looking for in this scenario. He's needed, we need him, but we don't need him delivering the message.

[nick]

So your entire basis to not trust Fauci is from a March 8th interview. A week before Gobert was positive and everything shut down? Where was the “flip flopping “. They had little info. They got informed and changed their stances very early.

[shel311]

Where was the “flip flopping “.

Ok, fair enough. He didn't flip flop, he just flat out lied in order to misleda the American public putting them in danger...again which he has admitted to doing. And you believe everything he says, so you should have no problem grasping this 2 pages later.

[cougnix]

honest question to the teachers of the group.

Why not reopen if everyone is wearing masks? I know you are not going to get kids with special needs to wear them and even the younger kids. But why not junior high and high school aged kids. If all of them and all of the teachers are wearing masks, why are we not sending them back to class?

There is no way to keep them distanced, there is no assurance that kids will do what they are supposed to. What if 10 teachers decide they have too much risk going to school and potentially getting COVID? In the 20 years I've been teaching there have been 3 or 4 kids that have died while in school and all of them were accidents except one cancer. We have 870 students at my school, they are predicting a death rate is .01%

.01% of 870 is almost 9 kids. Is that acceptable?

I'm guessing that you don't teach math.

Lol, I actually did and didn't move decimals because I was distracted. Oops.

Still 1 kid for every thousand?

Gonna need you to move that decimal again.

So what we're going to have decimal amount of deaths? Oh gotcha the partial death was just a scare

[ReignOnU]

So your entire basis to not trust Fauci is from a March 8th interview. A week before Gobert was positive and everything shut down? Where was the “flip flopping “. They had little info. They got informed and changed their stances very early.

"Entire basis" is a pretty big leap. I get it, exaggerating shit is your thing. After all, you're stunned over the ~19% swing in a sample of Republican opinions over the last 80 days or so.

[nick]

So if we’re not listening to ppl cause they were wrong. Why do you folks listen to Trump? It’s a hoax (wrong). It’ll go away (wrong)

0/2. Based off how we treat Fauci I guess Trump can’t be trusted. But yet republicans still listen to trump and discredit Fauci. (See 20% diff in republican opinion)

What a time to be alive

[ReignOnU]

There is no way to keep them distanced, there is no assurance that kids will do what they are supposed to. What if 10 teachers decide they have too much risk going to school and potentially getting COVID? In the 20 years I've been teaching there have been 3 or 4 kids that have died while in school and all of them were accidents except one cancer. We have 870 students at my school, they are predicting a death rate is .01%

.01% of 870 is almost 9 kids. Is that acceptable?

I'm guessing that you don't teach math.

Lol, I actually did and didn't move decimals because I was distracted. Oops.

Still 1 kid for every thousand?

Gonna need you to move that decimal again.

So what we're going to have decimal amount of deaths? Oh gotcha the partial death was just a scare

Well, if you want to deal in whole numbers by far the most likely outcome is that out of your 870, 0 die. Pretty big difference in the number when you do the math right.

[shel311]

So if we’re not listening to ppl cause they were wrong. Why do you folks listen to Trump?

I don't listen to Trump, weird attempt at another gotcha moment there.

[ReignOnU]

So if we’re not listening to ppl cause they were wrong. Why do you folks listen to Trump? It’s a hoax (wrong). It’ll go away (wrong)

0/2. Based off how we treat Fauci I guess Trump can’t be trusted. But yet republicans still listen to trump and discredit Fauci. (See 20% diff in republican opinion)

What a time to be alive

You're assuming that 'you folks' listen to Trump. I'm fairly certain that every one of 'you folks' that can read this message has said he's a blowhard since prior to him being elected. But you believe what you want to believe and don't bother listening to the other side.