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I would unplug the router from your modem.
Then bridge the modem. this will basically remove the router function from the modem.

Then reset your router to factory specs. Plug in ethernet to your modem and plug the router into power.

Let it obtain an IP address from your modem.

Then plug in your PS3 and see what happens.

By reading some of the information in the last link I gave you though, I am not sure if the router has to be setup for PPPoE or not once your modem is in bridge mode.It seems like it may have to be.

When you setup PPPoE, you have to enter in your information for your ISP, such as your username and password that is normally in your modem from your DSL company.

The router then does the function that the modem used to do and the modem just gets an IP from your ISP and then acts as a pass-through device and your router handles everything else.

Being a Linksys N router, I honestly don't think you will get anything that will work any better.
I don't believe it to be a router issue where a different make/model will resolve the issue.

I have always had luck and recommended Linksys routers. So I think you are fine there.

However, since the DSL Modem, the 4200 device has a router built in it, as someone else suggested, the easiest fix, is to return the router and buy a switch.

And in that link, someone stated that the 4200 has an auto mode, so I would recommend setting everything back to factory specs, and then following whatever they recommend. If that still does not work, you may want to go the switch route.

The biggest issue is that the 4200 has the router built in.
So you have both devices trying to act as a router.

I found this information also...
It may sound confusing at first...but read through it..

Note: The "primary" router can be an actual router, a software gateway like Microsoft Internet Connection Sharing, or a server connection that has the capability to supply more than one IP address using DHCP server capability. No changes are made to the primary "router" configuration.

Configure the IP address of the secondary router(s) to be in the same subnet as the primary router, but out of the range of the DHCP server in the primary router. For instance DHCP server addresses 192.168.0.2 through 192.168.0.100, I'd assign the secondary router 192.168.0.254 as it's IP address, 192.168.0.253 for another router, etc.

Note: Do this first, as you will have to reboot the computer to connect to the router again for the remaining changes.

Disable the DHCP server in the secondary router.

Setup the wireless section just the way you would if it was the primary router, channels, encryption, etc.

Connect from the primary router's LAN port to one of the LAN ports on the secondary router. If there is no uplink port and neither of the routers have auto-sensing ports, use a cross-over cable. Leave the WAN port unconnected!

This procedure bypasses the routing function (NAT layer) and configures the router as a switch (or wireless access point for wireless routers).

Also FYI:I believe that the "primary" router in this scenario,is the modem/router.

So the steps above are basically turning your Linksys router into a switch.

I went into Google and typed in "speedstreem 4200 with router"

Someone suggested this:
In a web browser, type 10.1.1.1 in the address bar. (You will have to type in whatever your modem's IP address is. Your ISP can help you with this if you don't know, to get the setup page to show up for your modem)
When the firmware page appears, expand the setup menu on the lhs, and click on mode.
Change the mode from Optus bridge or whatever it is set to by default to NAPT.
Save the change, it will countdown to reboot. You should then be able to use NAT + router.

They are saying that NAPT will allow the modem to work with a router.

Some guy stated:
Mine is in NAPT mode and I use a Dlink DI 624 router

So it seems like it can be done.
Good luck.

Sorry to keep bombarding you with info, but I want to share what I am finding for you...

This site has a guy who claims he is a network tech for Windstream...or at least was back in 2007 when this stuff was posted.

http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1339888

Joesphcn I think you should program you 4200 bridge only mode, it will work a lot better. To program bridge only mode login to the 4200 192.168.254.254 user and password defaults are admin admin. click setups then click Wan interface, double click the top idem (mind is 0/35) then click next at the bottom of the page do this 2 times and you should see Bridge only mode at the top of the page, click bridge only then finish, "DO NOT REBOOT" now click DHCP for the right side menu and at the top of the page DHCP Server click the Disable button now reboot and you will have a bridge only modem.

thanks for all the info, niddler. here's what i've done:

bridged the 4200
went into my router and enabled pppoe and entered my windstream account info
now my internet on the computer works after the bridge
went to my ps3 and did the easy setup and voila, nat2.

one question. the connection speed tests failed there. is that an issue? i'm thinking not, but i didn't like to see that it failed. just me being worried after all of this, lol. i was able to login to the psn and i used the browser to run a speed test. it was running to full capability.

Did you try the connection speed test again? If you are able to access the PSN Store, then you should be fine, but try a game or two of something different.
Try 1 game and then something else and just verify that you can play online and not just access or log into your online account, but that you can actually play online.

But if you have NAT2, you should be fine.

The_Niddler wrote:Did you try the connection speed test again? If you are able to access the PSN Store, then you should be fine, but try a game or two of something different.
Try 1 game and then something else and just verify that you can play online and not just access or log into your online account, but that you can actually play online.

But if you have NAT2, you should be fine.

gonna give that a whirl later. i got in the store fine. haven't fooled with a game.

So I did all of the steps . . . I am a Type 2 NAT and I can connect to my player, but we are having LAG . . . like crazy. Wanting to know if it is me . . . or him . . . or just both of us.

So I went to the "test connection" because they do an upload and download test.

Attempt #1
Download is 3.6 Mbps
Upload is 1.4 Mbps

Attempt #2
Download is 3.0 Mbps
Upload is 1.8 Mbps

Attempt #3
Download is 5.1 Mbps
Upload is 1.8 Mbps

How does this compare to everyone else?

That's lower than mine by about half at least BUT I have been able to play in hotels with similar or worse connections. Are you wireless? Is he?

I am wireless . . . have been for every game I have ever played on the PS3.

He is wired.

Just did 3 more tests

#1
Download - 9.3
Upload - 2.1

#2
Download - 4.7
Upload - 1.9

#3
Download - 9.6
Upload - 2.0

About to attempt the 26 steps Holmey posted in the OP, I may never play online PS3 again.

Brighthouse rules!!

LIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHTENING!! Bastards

Followed all the steps rather easily, or so it seemed.


"Internet connection: FAILED"


Says it's a DNS error(80710102)

Odds of me even getting back to the way it was, slim to none.

shel311 wrote:Followed all the steps rather easily, or so it seemed.


"Internet connection: FAILED"


Says it's a DNS error(80710102)

Odds of me even getting back to the way it was, slim to none.

Check that, I had a typo in my numbers, LOLOL.


So, I'm apparently DMzed, that's good to know. Thanks for listening.

Nole4real wrote:\thumbs up

I'll take a wait and see approach for when i play more games.

shel311 wrote:

Nole4real wrote:\thumbs up

I'll take a wait and see approach for when i play more games.

Your just now doing this?

Lol

bigred wrote:Your just now doing this?

Im surprised he is doing it all or even knew where to start,impressive.

im 1.5 download, 1.0 upload. can play during non-peak hours. no problem.

Disconnect.

As usual, right before half or after half, this one was beginning of the 3rd.

Be on standby, I'll be alongside BigMike by the end of the week if I can't figure this out. That's 5 in a row.