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Bernie32 wrote:I love how every one focuses on the offensive variety. What about the defense??

I played a guy that, no lie or exaggeration, sat in the same exact zone at least 90% of the time. I understand if your a zone guy, but what the fuck? Mix it up. There are cover 2, cover 3, and even cover 4. Mix in some zone blitzes. Now I could have simply abused the plays that beat his zone, but truth be told, I didnt realize it until too late. I'm not that good. And even if, what is the fun of me running the same play/route every time against his same play. I enjoy the matchups and strategizing. I also played one guy that blitzed every time out of a 4-3 against a spread offense (UTEP has no fullback). I simply threw over his blitz every time. One game was a win, one was a loss, both got equally poor coaches reports from me. So it's not about winning or losing.

Same thing here. You have to mix it up on defense but also remember that everyone has a set defense most the game. Like I run a 4-2-5 and use all the sets but one because for some reason my LB always seems to be out of his assignment on that one and gets burned. But then Ill call diff forms for short or long situations. True I a guy shouldnt sit in the same zone all game but Ive been in situations were guys are using the same type of attack over and over during key times of the game and I have to call the same defense to stop the same play type they keep calling. For example if I noticed on every third down you like to throw the ball to your backs out of the backfield for the quick easy yards then Im going to call the defense to stop it everytime until you switch it up and run something different.
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The complaining from some people I thought would get better and better as time goes on, but it seems to get considerably worse. I know I am beating a dead horse but I will say it again some people need to take a step back when filling out their reports and not be so god damned nit picky.
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I think the game itself dictates how much league bitching will take place. Last year was incredibly smooth because the game was damn good and there wasn't much you could do in the way of questionable play.

This versions is a nightmare with all the settings. This stuff isn't meant for online play and isn't fully tested to find a balance. It's all dynasty stuff.

So, you get 50 different opinions on it and that frustration snowballs into everything else. We just need to get thru this and hope EA does away with this shit.
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WJ5811 wrote:
BFiVL wrote:
WJ5811 wrote:My only problem with the moderation and mixing it up concept it that guys only seem to apply it to the passing game. It seems okay to hand the ball off to the same guy all game for 25-30 attempts and only throw 5 passes all game. But if someone throws the ball 30 times and only runs 5 times then they get called on it. I say as long as you are running different plays passing then throw it to him if hes open. I mean its okay to hand the ball off to the same guy all game as long as you use different running plays.

You are saying 2 different things here WJ. If you said Throw the ball 30 times to the same guy over and over you may have a case. Many more passing plays than run plays which gives the appearance of diversity as long as they are spreading the ball around.

If you look at the true running Coaches Ill take VTRunnGun for example, prolly the only coach that comes close to what you are saying about 30 runs and five passes, those runs are never to the same folks, its not strictly off tackle plays.

I think the real argument should be the guys who pass 30 times a game and its the same 3 pass plays or the guys who run the ball and its same play over and over ( but once again its harder to fault these guys cause you have a much more limited running selection than passing).

Maybe I didnt word it very well. It seems in the past some guys (myself included Season 14) have been hit hard for running a pass heavy offense and also being scrutinized for throwing to the #1 WR to much. When I ran the spread I used every formation and used different routes but true my RB would get between 5-8 carries a game. Some of the gripes I heard at the end of the season were I threw to much to my tall #1 WR and I didnt run the ball enough and needed to mix in more runs. So that was the last season I ran the spread offense and have gone to a more behind the center balenced attack. Even though I like throwing the ball alot more than running I changed the offense because it was listed as a problem so I fixed it.

So my point is I guess is two fold. That it seems ok to give the same guy the ball all game as long as its not a passing play. Also it seems ok to run the ball 30 times and pass 5 times but you cant pass 30 times and run 5 times. Im not saying pass the ball to the same guy 30 times either because I doubt you could mix up the routes that much and give him the ball 30 times. But still the guys that are running the ball that much arent running that many different plays atleast not when I play them they dont. I have no problem with a guy running say an option offense or flexbone offense as his main attack. But also guys shouldnt have a problem with someone running the spread SG offense as the main attack either. The thing is when you run the ball the goal is to get it to your best RB and have him produce. But not as much consideration is given when throwing to your top WR or TE.
When you guys get your season points emailed to you and you are getting docked for passing too much then come see me. I could care less if you didnt run once in the whole game or not pass once in the whole game. It's my responsibility to stop your attack.

I was looking at my previous seasons point emails and I saw one constructive criticism that running 80% and passing 20% with Idaho last season wasnt mixing it up enough. If it was up to me I would have ran 95% of the time because the QB sucked and I truly enjoy running the rock. The criticism wasnt that I ran dives all game or this all game or that all game it was that I just ran 80% of the time. I suck at passing and I would rather just run the ball instead of passing, so if you guys dont have a problem with me running a bunch hit me up for an OOC game next season (I promise I wont have a great team).
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well not only that george and the fact that you had idaho shit i recognize you gotta go with your teams strengths when you go against a tougher team than yours but when it comes to a equal or lesser team thats when you really have no excuse for mixing up the pass and run. If you have a badass team verse a weaker team there should be no exuse for you not to mix it up more and show some creativity rather than pad your players stats.
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oldschoola wrote:well not only that george and the fact that you had idaho shit i recognize you gotta go with your teams strengths when you go against a tougher team than yours but when it comes to a equal or lesser team thats when you really have no excuse for mixing up the pass and run. If you have a badass team verse a weaker team there should be no exuse for you not to mix it up more and show some creativity rather than pad your players stats.
Completely agree. I think 3 of Tulane's top 4 players are offensive lineman. I used that to run the ball 90% of the time. Also, if I did pass, I would make it quick passes because I just don't recognize coverage well.

On the other side of the ball, I never got any penetration with my D-line. In fact, my entire defense was garbage. This year, I am going to play 3-4 or 3-3-5 because if I'm not going to get pressure, I might as well do it with dropping 8.
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When I started in this league, I was Air Force. I got two reports indicating I ran too much. That said, I was very pleased with my reports this season. I received a great many of them and they were very verbose as well as well-thought out. One of mine indicated that he wasn't too pleased with me running play-action on the first play of the game - and thought he was in for a shitfest - but admitted that I only did it a few more times and he was fine with that.

This is good to know for two reasons:

1) That people will judge you on the whole game.
2) That I can rattle people by running PA on the first play of the game! :)
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trendon wrote: One of mine indicated that he wasn't too pleased with me running play-action on the first play of the game
Completly ridiculous...perfect time to run a play action pass and make sure the defense is awake. Most people come out with a pretty conservative off and def call on the first play so a PA pass is great in that situation. Perfect example of guys not really using the coaching reports for what thay are designed for.
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yeah last year people didn'tlike my fake field goals :(. if im down 7 late and im kicking a fg, chances are i'm not kicking a fg.
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WJ5811 wrote:
trendon wrote: One of mine indicated that he wasn't too pleased with me running play-action on the first play of the game
Completly ridiculous...perfect time to run a play action pass and make sure the defense is awake. Most people come out with a pretty conservative off and def call on the first play so a PA pass is great in that situation. Perfect example of guys not really using the coaching reports for what thay are designed for.
I had someone dock my rating for running PA first play as well. This was mid season, after it was painfully obvious to anyone who looked at my stats that I was going to run the ball 80% of the time.
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Look, with all due respect, no one has any idea what you got docked for unless your opponent specifically said "I docked you for blah blah blah". I put things for guys to "clean up" in my responses, but didnt necessarily 'ding' them for.

Everyone wants more and more coaches comments. They finally get probably at least 6-10 EACH, and now its time to disect them. Roll with them, learn from them, then move on. Its not a big deal.

Everyone doesnt think like you. Everyone dosent think like me. What you think is ridiculous to get worried about, others find bothersome.

Im VERY happy with the amount of comments left on the reports this season. please everyone, keep up the good work.


ps - Nick if you were down 7 late in teh game and lined up a fake FG and went for it I'd ding the shit out of you for that......you wanna go for it, then go for it....leave the fake FG bullshit late when down 7 at home.....Fake FG in the 1st half is 10000 times better in my mind...also, you suck
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ajalves wrote:with all due respect
I SAID WITH ALL DUE RESPECT!!
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ajalves wrote: ps - Nick if you were down 7 late in teh game and lined up a fake FG and went for it I'd ding the shit out of you for that......you wanna go for it, then go for it....leave the fake FG bullshit late when down 7 at home.....Fake FG in the 1st half is 10000 times better in my mind...also, you suck
hey, he fell for it, not me.

p.s you finished 1-11. do i feel a AJ vs Nick game coming. Just realized we both have backstreet boys names :oops:
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trendon wrote:2) That I can rattle people by running PA on the first play of the game! :)
Note to self, watch PA on first play. :mrgreen:
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Hoos wrote:
trendon wrote:2) That I can rattle people by running PA on the first play of the game! :)
Note to self, watch PA on first play. :mrgreen:
Im running PA deep lob first play of the season against Weasel.
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