Rule Edit for scrambling with QB

[Ank]

I'am with Shel on this....All the rules and gimmicks have made this game a grade of C-. Honestly when the game came out..I loved it!
But now 1 game you can play a guy that uses the gimmicks in moderation...then the next game your opp. acts like he has never heard the word.
As for the QB run...if a guy drops 8 back, there shouldn't be a limit on your QB taking off...but on the flip side..This game is SO easy to pass if you dont drop 8 back a solid coach can easily go 27-30. So pick your poison.

[jsence2]

I'am with Shel on this....

Uh-oh.....

[Cnasty]

I think he meant me which is a bigger uh oh.

Never agree with the dude that stops playing the game a month after it comes out.

Also I have amazing hair, Shel does not.

Dont confuse us again. Thanks.

[jsence2]

I think he meant me which is a bigger uh oh.

Never agree with the dude that stops playing the game a month after it comes out.

Also I have amazing hair, Shel does not.

Dont confuse us again. Thanks.

Hence why I said "uh oh"

[Ank]

I always get you 2 confused...

[BFiVL]

I guess the question is, how many of you coaches have played a game where they felt the oppts were using the rules against them to get an unfair advantage? Cause that seems like the disagreement about this rule mod is generating. I have never one played a game where I felt that way. I still feel that the end all be all rule that rules over all is MODERATION. You should know by now that running with a qb 12 times out of pass play is garbage. If you run with a qb in moderation when situations warrant it, I just dont see a huge issue.

Right now, the most running attempts from a QB is 36 for 43 yards through 4 games played. 9 attempts per game and he is a option coach. 2nd most is 32 for 165, another option coach who has 82 total rushes among all his players through 2 games. Hell tebow is avg less than a yard a carry. I dont think anyone is abusing this rule but the way the rule was stated, it was time for a change.

[ReignOnU]

There's no doubt that no one is abusing it. But I think the concern is that if there is a set limit, it may become limiting. Running on the 4th time, might be the right play to make, due to the coverage/situation. But now, the coaches feel like they might be knocked hard on their important Coach Reports, because there is a set number, in writing. Kill the number, label it "as needed/justifiable" and move on. Just like your stats said, we really don't have an issue, so why put a hard stamp on it?

[ajalves]

Im sick of these fucking "debates"...

Please, I beg all of you to stop flapping your lips on the boards day after day after mother fucking day and enjoy the league.

This version is fucked. We're gonna enjoy it for what its worth. STOP all the complaining please. Seriously.

I'd hate to have to start "policing" the threads as we're all supposed to be adults

[VeniVediV1ci]

On the flip side, dont you think after they drop 8 a few times and you pick up yardage with the QB, they will respect your running ability and play you more honest in that respect?

No. They will not respect your running ability because the person running realizes that they probably can't do it again because they'll get KILLED on their CRs. Eventually they know that the opponent will be forced to throw into the coverage and that Interception with the QB losing composure and the momentum change will mean much more than the 10, 15, 20 or 25-yard gains that comes from running.

uuaww is right that it is the reverse Robin Hood situation, and it almost makes me think this league is too anti-cheese for its own good. It's making this game the opposite of college football because if you can't stop something that means your opponent can't do it anymore, and that sucks

**edit: this should have gone thru earlier but didn't for some reason**

[Ry]

Im sick of these fucking "debates"...

Please, I beg all of you to stop flapping your lips on the boards day after day after mother fucking day and enjoy the league.

This version is fucked. We're gonna enjoy it for what its worth. STOP all the complaining please. Seriously.

I'd hate to have to start "policing" the threads as we're all supposed to be adults

which is to bad because I think the gameplay by itself is the best we have seen in next gen. Could it be better? of course. I do like some of the strategy modifiers but as a whole they are annoying and I would have been happy without.

As for running with the qb. Don't think its a problem at all. I don't think an opposing coach will freak out if you happen to run 4 times. If you are concerned talk about it after the game and each coach get their viewpoint stated and you may learn there is nothing to worry about at all. I don't remember a NDL game where I thought the player was running his qb immediately after the drop back.

I look at like this:

1) some qbs you really dont have to worry about them running ever and if they do it will be once at most.
2) Qbs with 70-78 speed provide an extra boost and you need to be aware but again the damage done will be limited to just a few plays at the very most.
3) If you face a qb with 80 plus speed then IMO it is the defenses' job to be aware and account for the qb. I know it takes away from defense but if you spy the qb at times when it is needed your lb should make the play.

[shel311]

I am already pretty bored with this game

You lasted much longer than I thought you would.

[shel311]

Well I didnt even realize there was a debate about the running of qbs, I have never played anyone in league, whom picked passing plays with the sole intention of running with the qb.

Not sure why it had to be brought up and readdressed, everyone in league should know that it is against the rules to pick passing plays with the intention to run with a fast qb.

So we shouldn't fix a rule that is completely worded wrong because no one has challenged it??

That makes no sense to me.

Why wait until someone tries to challenge that rule? Why not be proactive and fix the wording now?

[DRiccio21]

Why wait until someone tries to challenge that rule? Why not be proactive and fix the wording now?

because its never been an issue thats caused a severe uproar, now it is... for no reason.

its not like this is a judicial system. just because something may not be worded EXACTLY on point in the rules doesn't mean the player can't be penalized for doing something shady. no lawyer is going to come in and defend the player against the league constitution.

imo, it was pointless to bring it up and caused all this nonsensical debating over nothing

just don't play like a douchebag and you'll be fine in the league, 95% of the guys know this already, the 5% that don't probably wont be around long with their coaches reports anyways.

[DRiccio21]

I am already pretty bored with this game

You lasted much longer than I thought you would.

was just going to post the same thing. you hate NCAA like bigmike hates the world

[Cnasty]

you hate NCAA like bigmike hates the world

Hate is such a strong word. I actually like the version without all the little nuances. I just want to put the game in and enjoy the awesomeness of it. Not worry about this game plan crap and guessing and all the other things.

The gameplay is some of the best we have seen in a while. The additions, not so much.

[DRiccio21]

you hate NCAA like bigmike hates the world

Hate is such a strong word. I actually like the version without all the little nuances. I just want to put the game in and enjoy the awesomeness of it. Not worry about this game plan crap and guessing and all the other things.

The gameplay is some of the best we have seen in a while. The additions, not so much.

cool, i actually agree.

i've only played about 10 games all together online... but i find the gameplay to be great. maybe one of the benefits of not knowing the game is i have no idea about alot of the crap you guys are talking about and i all i do is get to enjoy the gameplay.

[BIGmike]

you hate NCAA like bigmike hates the world

Hate is such a strong word. I actually like the version without all the little nuances. I just want to put the game in and enjoy the awesomeness of it. Not worry about this game plan crap and guessing and all the other things.

The gameplay is some of the best we have seen in a while. The additions, not so much.

cool, i actually agree.

i've only played about 10 games all together online... but i find the gameplay to be great. maybe one of the benefits of not knowing the game is i have no idea about alot of the crap you guys are talking about and i all i do is get to enjoy the gameplay.

Just wait...

[6ftdeep]

Why wait until someone tries to challenge that rule? Why not be proactive and fix the wording now?

because its never been an issue thats caused a severe uproar, now it is... for no reason.

its not like this is a judicial system. just because something may not be worded EXACTLY on point in the rules doesn't mean the player can't be penalized for doing something shady. no lawyer is going to come in and defend the player against the league constitution.

imo, it was pointless to bring it up and caused all this nonsensical debating over nothing

just don't play like a douchebag and you'll be fine in the league, 95% of the guys know this already, the 5% that don't probably wont be around long with their coaches reports anyways.

Because, 1 you didnt fix the wording of a rule you added a rule within a rule.
I think it would have been fully understanded but just saying. Picking a pass play with the sole intention of running with the qb to pick up positive yards is not condoned and will be delt with swiftly.

That is all I saying on this topic. I actually done stating my opinion on any topics about this game, gameplay and features of it... because its seems it is discouraged to voice or debate your opinions on such topics.

[Cnasty]

Because, 1 you didnt fix the wording of a rule you added a rule within a rule.

Wow, you win with that one.

[BIGmike]

As Venkman says in Ghostbusters: Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria!

That is all.