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I would say no more than 5 keepers. Not many would reach that anyways but some guys may want to keep core players instead of the big guns, and simply replace their big guns in the draft.

LaMarcus Aldridge $10,700,000 2nd
*John Wall $5,144,280 --- 2nd
*JaVale McGee $1,334,200---8th
*Stephen Curry $2,913,840 ---2nd
*Patrick Patterson $1,823,280 ---5th
*Stephen Jackson $8,450,000 ---2nd

334400 left

so keep everyone but Aldridge and just fill in with a better center for the 1st round pick like bring gasol back

Andrea Bargnani $8,000,000
Dirk Nowitski $17,278,618
Rashard Lewis $20,514,000
Richard Hamilton $12,650,000
Toney Douglas $1,071,000

Kwame Brown $1,229,255
Austin Daye $1,803,720
Niclas Batum $997,300
Roger Mason $1,400,000
Rodrigue Beaubois $1,156,080

Rodney Carney--$855,189
Sun Yue--???????

Daw1git wrote:Rashard Lewis $20,514,000

you can't even keep Rashard Lewis (how is he getting paid that much!!!)

Daw1git wrote:Rodney Carney--??????

2010-11 season he got paid

Rodney Carney- F- Philadelphia 76ers -$855,189

dealer4014 wrote:

Daw1git wrote:Rashard Lewis $20,514,000

you can't even keep Rashard Lewis (how is he getting paid that much!!!)

I thought the same thing

Cant wait for the ping pong balls to start bouncing!!

those numbers your posting aren't accurate

i got them from the link jsence posted

http://www.sportscity.com/NBA-Salaries/

Daw1git wrote:LaMarcus Aldridge $10,700,000 2nd
*John Wall $5,144,280 --- 2nd
*JaVale McGee $1,334,200---8th
*Stephen Curry $2,913,840 ---2nd
*Patrick Patterson $1,823,280 ---5th
*Stephen Jackson $8,450,000 ---2nd

334400 left

so keep everyone but Aldridge and just fill in with a better center for the 1st round pick like bring gasol back

Which is why Dave brought in the "average" salaries thing:

For example, Wall's salary could be 5.53M (without option years) or 6.75M (with option years); Jackson's salary would be 9.257M over lifetime of his deal; Curry's would be 2.91 without options; 3.33M with team options; or 3.825M with all options.

Those three alone (if Dave includes all option years into salaries) total 19.832. I'd get a 1st round pick and then nothing again until the 5th round, at which point getting a player as good as Patterson would be difficult. So even though I'd get to keep three guys AND get a 1st round pick (which doesn't even guarantee I'd get a player who went in the original first round, since many will be kept), I'd basically end up with a team (overall) similar to the one I have now. Or I could let Jackson go; replace him with a player in the first round; and then keep Wall/Curry/Patterson; draft again in the 4th round (get a mid 70s player), and again in the 6th round, keep McGee (7th), and draft 8-12....and would again have a team similar in ratings to the one I have now.

Daw1git wrote:i got them from the link jsence posted

http://www.sportscity.com/NBA-Salaries/

i posted earlier that its the average over the life of the contract

Daw1git wrote:i got them from the link jsence posted

http://www.sportscity.com/NBA-Salaries/

You're posting their salaries for this season; Dave is averaging out the lifetime (or is it just last/this/next year?) of their deals, which is a fair way to do it; the big stars will get paid about even across, while the younger guys get back-loaded deals, so it takes away the advantage of keeping young superstars).

jsence2 wrote:

Daw1git wrote:i got them from the link jsence posted

http://www.sportscity.com/NBA-Salaries/

You're posting their salaries for this season; Dave is averaging out the lifetime (or is it just last/this/next year?) of their deals, which is a fair way to do it; the big stars will get paid about even across, while the younger guys get back-loaded deals, so it takes away the advantage of keeping young superstars).

this isn't exactly true...Wade goes from 14 mil to over 20 mil in his last season

sounds like alot of work

dealer4014 wrote:

jsence2 wrote:

Daw1git wrote:i got them from the link jsence posted

http://www.sportscity.com/NBA-Salaries/

You're posting their salaries for this season; Dave is averaging out the lifetime (or is it just last/this/next year?) of their deals, which is a fair way to do it; the big stars will get paid about even across, while the younger guys get back-loaded deals, so it takes away the advantage of keeping young superstars).

this isn't exactly true...Wade goes from 14 mil to over 20 mil in his last season

that's my point--most "max deals" are going to look like that, but the differentiation is about 10-15% annually (goes up about a 1 to 1.5M a year); and most of those max deals will be level on average (about 15-18 million for those players like Kobe, Lebron, Wade, etc); whereas most of these rookie deals are low front end, but then have huge "option" years (like Wall is at 5 mill now, but his last option year is 9.7 million, which is almost a 50% increase).

Daw1git wrote:sounds like alot of work

Not really; I can do my team in about ten minutes. Everyone gives a list of who they'd like values on to keep; that would take maybe 5-10 minutes per list.

Daw1git wrote:sounds like alot of work

i dont mean this to you personally.... just thinking aloud

people will bitch about anything.

how fuckin tough is it to look thru 10 people on your roster and say, i want to keep him and him then look at their salaries and see if the avg of those guys is under 20.

its fucking unreal how complicated people are trying to make this when its incredibly simple.

again for the 300th time. i'll take care of it and hold everyones hands to make sure it works properly

DRiccio21 wrote:

Talented wrote:How bout we just redraft all together? The first one did go pretty smooth.

because i'm trying to have a sense of continuity in the league.

rather then one season Shel is New Orleans and has Chris Paul then the next season he is Chicago and has Kobe Bryant.

i want to have guys that are tied to cities and have their 'franchise' type players attached to it.

I couldn't agree more.

I'm also assuming with the $20mil cap to retain players, guys like Kobe and KG can still be retained even though they're making in excess of $20mil?

just my 2 cents on the limit of keeping players...i think you should be able to keep as many players as you want in your $20 mil cap...some people might want to keep their big 1 or 2 guys where as another person might want to keep their role players/bench players, either way it will make things interesting

It appears that I have just enough room to keep Paul and Ilyasova, so I'm good to go. Ily is my homeboy!!!