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Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:54 pm
by shel311
jsence2 wrote:Cnasty wrote:I did wonder myself if he ever did fire on them from the boat or what prompted them to open fire.
Didnt the owner find him out, bloody,and laying there? Did they discover a weapon when they got him out of the boat?
Im surprised from the videos and sounds I heard with how they unloaded on him that he survived that and the boat didnt blow up with half a tank of gas in it.
Thank you. See, these are valid questions. Why can't we have answers?
1. Those are great questions, but you certainly didn't post them the same way as Corey did. You made a post specifically stating( didn't look back on it) either that he didn't have a weapon or he didn't fire a weapon, and you basically said it as fact, when we don't know the answer to that, i believe. Then you said it appears that based on the info, they were just making decisions because the media was around.
FWIW, that's 100% different than Corey posing these valid questions. And just because we don't know the answers, there's no real reason to assume all of the stuff you're assuming.
2. Maybe we aren't getting all of these answers because the dude is alive and going to face a trial. you can't just be giving out all of the evidence publically and possibly tainting the jury pool.
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:15 pm
by OracleHCR
shel311 wrote:
2. Maybe we aren't getting all of these answers because the dude is alive and going to face a trial. you can't just be giving out all of the evidence publically and possibly tainting the jury pool.
That is a huge part of it right there. They are already going to have a hard enough time finding an unbiased jury even if they change the venue.
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:32 pm
by DRiccio21
i can't wait to hear what Glen Beck says tomorrow about the Saudi kid. I've been fascinated by his involvement from the beginning after looking thru his FB and a lot of his friends also.
glen beck is an idiot, but i hope he comes with something strong.
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:37 pm
by autiger730
jsence2 wrote:I never once said it was a conspiracy or a cover-up. I said there are a ton of questions that I have, and the answers don't make any sense.
If you want to mock me to make yourself feel better, then go ahead. But mocking me doesn't make my points any less valid, and neither does your disagreement with them. I don't ever go to "Infowars", I don't believe in 9/11 conspiracy theories. But I also don't fucking believe a single word that comes from a government run by people whose early campaign strategies include going after someone's mental health history because they once suffered from depression, rather than trying to beat them based on their stances and beliefs. (see Mitch McConnell and his planning sessions vs Ashley Judd) And that's just one example.
We live in a world where the corrupt and the powerful run everything. We get shocked at how long these mayors and governors can run these elaborate criminal schemes, and yet we scoff and laugh at the thought of the federal government, the President, the FBI, the CIA being able to do the same thing. We live in a nation where people are more concerned about who Kim Kardashian is fucking than who the government is fucking--oh yeah, THAT'S US.
So mock me all you want to. The truth of the matter is, history repeats itself. It's one of the big reasons I studied it in college, it helps us see where we've come from and where we are headed. You mock me, yet you forget the fact that Nazi Germany, the facist regime in Italy under Mussolini, and many other regimes that took totalitarian and absolutist power did so by doing some of the same things that you claim can't be done, that couldn't ever happen. You say "oh, well if that was happening, then people would point it out". Well when people do that and nobody says "hey, what if by the 0.00001% chance they're right? Let's demand some answers!" and instead tells them they're stupid because the government gave them this information.....well, you have your answer as to how they could do it and get away with it.
Thomas Jefferson is a brilliant man. He knew that one of the biggest ways that the government was kept in check was the media. Too bad that now, the majority of the media that people get their news from is controlled by 6 corporations, and every single one of them has political ties to a specific party and/or specific politicians. And people rely on these sources for all their information. Good luck with that.
"Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories."--Thomas Jefferson
Tl;dnr
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:30 pm
by cdub21
to the why did they open fire question, if they think he might of tried to commit suicide, then....he shoots himself, police hear gun shot and open fire?
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:33 pm
by shel311
cdub21 wrote:to the why did they open fire question, if they think he might of tried to commit suicide, then....he shoots himself, police hear gun shot and open fire?
I heard that as well.
Seems like there's very little information or confirmation on whether he had aggunoor not.
That being said it's certainly no reason to assume some of the we've seen assumed in this thread.
Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:36 pm
by The_Niddler
They opened fired because of the history of events!
If this was a traffic stop and the guy ran, I could understand you questioning why they opened fire.
With the history of events, you do not feel they are warranted to open fire?
He or his brother kill a cop, he gets in an SUV and busts through a barricade to escape and continues to flee the police.
Several shots fired back and forth and you don't feel they have the right to open fire?
I understand what you are saying that there is no video of him opening fire or other examples of him doing what they are saying, I get that, I really do.
I have to imagine though that some of it, if not all is true.
Again, if it is not true and he is innocent, why run?
So if he fired even 1 shot at authorities, in my mind, they have every right to go after him.
Again, jsence, I do understand what you are saying and I do understand that you are asking some good questions, I just don't understand how after the history of events, how you could not understand or agree why they would/should have every right to open fire on him in that boat.
I don't care if he was unarmed that night. The history that they went through with this person, between bombs and guns, take him out, kill or be killed!
In the end, I am happy they took him alive. Maybe we can get some answers.
Re: !
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:44 pm
by shel311
The_Niddler wrote:They opened fired because of the history of events
I imagine it may not have been that simple.
Contrary to what many folks were saying, it seems they wanted this guy alive, I imagine so they can question him about the other relevant people involved, so there was probably some specific reason why they opened fire.
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:49 pm
by Cnasty
It was out of nowhere as the videos show everyone walking casually and then bam!
Shots firing, people running.
I totally forgot when listening to the stream that they couldn't see through the tarp so when they said "movement" he must have been hitting his head on the tarp and walking around
How did they cut a hole in the tarp to get the flash bangs in there?
Re: !
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:55 pm
by The_Niddler
shel311 wrote:The_Niddler wrote:They opened fired because of the history of events
I imagine it may not have been that simple.
Contrary to what many folks were saying, it seems they wanted this guy alive, I imagine so they can question him about the other relevant people involved, so there was probably some specific reason why they opened fire.
Maybe one of their superiors initially told them they wanted this guy dead or alive?
Then maybe someone higher up decided it would be a better option to take him alive to question him.
I am just speculating, no clue really, but personally, I could understand why they would open fire.
Some people are questioning them like they had no reason to.
And in all honesty, I do understand some of the conspiracy stuff. Not about this event, but many others throughout history.
I have a few friends that are really, really into that stuff.
I hear all kinds of stuff.
Some things, I agree with or can at least understand where people are coming from.
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:57 pm
by The_Niddler
Cnasty wrote:It was out of nowhere as the videos show everyone walking casually and then bam!
Shots firing, people running.
I totally forgot when listening to the stream that they couldn't see through the tarp so when they said "movement" he must have been hitting his head on the tarp and walking around
How did they cut a hole in the tarp to get the flash bangs in there?
Wasn't the movement from the infrared that the helicopter was using?
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:59 pm
by nick
Cnasty wrote:It was out of nowhere as the videos show everyone walking casually and then bam!
Shots firing, people running.
I totally forgot when listening to the stream that they couldn't see through the tarp so when they said "movement" he must have been hitting his head on the tarp and walking around
How did they cut a hole in the tarp to get the flash bangs in there?
they sent a robot in and it ripped the tarp.
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:07 pm
by Cnasty
I must have missed so much during that radio stream. I don't remember any robot but the thermal helicopter thing makes sense.
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:16 pm
by nick
the 19 yr old never shot a cop btw. the older brother got out and was throwing bombs and shooting. when they wrestled him down his lil bro ran him over killing him. 2 cops jumped outta the way. I feel for him, you gotta think he was brainwashed by his older bro.
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:12 am
by trendon
DRiccio21 wrote:everyone says 'oh okay' except you. you get it.
And on the contrary, Riccio has his pulse on all the facts so he doesn't have to question anything.
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:29 am
by trendon
jsence2 wrote:
So mock me all you want to.
Oh, and the enfranchised will do just that. Just be lucky that they are sleeping in their borrowed domiciles. Otherwise, they would show you how silly you are.
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:31 am
by trendon
autiger730 wrote:jsence2 wrote:I never once said it was a conspiracy or a cover-up. I said there are a ton of questions that I have, and the answers don't make any sense.
If you want to mock me to make yourself feel better, then go ahead. But mocking me doesn't make my points any less valid, and neither does your disagreement with them. I don't ever go to "Infowars", I don't believe in 9/11 conspiracy theories. But I also don't fucking believe a single word that comes from a government run by people whose early campaign strategies include going after someone's mental health history because they once suffered from depression, rather than trying to beat them based on their stances and beliefs. (see Mitch McConnell and his planning sessions vs Ashley Judd) And that's just one example.
We live in a world where the corrupt and the powerful run everything. We get shocked at how long these mayors and governors can run these elaborate criminal schemes, and yet we scoff and laugh at the thought of the federal government, the President, the FBI, the CIA being able to do the same thing. We live in a nation where people are more concerned about who Kim Kardashian is fucking than who the government is fucking--oh yeah, THAT'S US.
So mock me all you want to. The truth of the matter is, history repeats itself. It's one of the big reasons I studied it in college, it helps us see where we've come from and where we are headed. You mock me, yet you forget the fact that Nazi Germany, the facist regime in Italy under Mussolini, and many other regimes that took totalitarian and absolutist power did so by doing some of the same things that you claim can't be done, that couldn't ever happen. You say "oh, well if that was happening, then people would point it out". Well when people do that and nobody says "hey, what if by the 0.00001% chance they're right? Let's demand some answers!" and instead tells them they're stupid because the government gave them this information.....well, you have your answer as to how they could do it and get away with it.
Thomas Jefferson is a brilliant man. He knew that one of the biggest ways that the government was kept in check was the media. Too bad that now, the majority of the media that people get their news from is controlled by 6 corporations, and every single one of them has political ties to a specific party and/or specific politicians. And people rely on these sources for all their information. Good luck with that.
"Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories."--Thomas Jefferson
Tl;dnr
See? And this guy probably votes. This moron is what elects the ones that can do everything you say. I'm no better besides my desire to listen.
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:15 am
by Cnasty
Conversation between white hat and the friend that was brought into custody

Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:00 am
by LetsGoPeay
Cnasty wrote:Conversation between white hat and the friend that was brought into custody

That just looks too obvious to me. You're telling me these "well trained" terrorist operatives are planning ops via Twitter?
Re: Explosion at Boston Marathon finish line
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:26 am
by Cnasty
The dude is 19 and as we can see his brother was the brains of the operation.
Yes, Ithink iit's very possible