1. Pick any playernick wrote:Yes? He had a .600 OBP and got walked often. You believe elite pitchers are scared of .300 hitters?? You think Kershaw gives a fuck who's up.
Plus lol at using Bonds as your example. The outlier of outliers
Pitcher Tim Hudson on the idea of protection:The_Niddler wrote:For the record, pitchers do care who is up.
They treat each batter differently.
Pitcher Kevin Jepsen:“You’re foolish if you don’t look at the next hitter. Especially for us older guys; we know who in the lineup has had success against us and who hasn’t. If you have a guy on deck that you know doesn’t see you well, and there’s a guy in scoring position, and you’re facing a guy that sees you well, you’ve got to be smart. Pitch him tough, and take your chances with the guy on deck.”
Pitcher Rick Porcello:“As a reliever, if I’m coming into the game and facing three-four-five, on most teams they’re all studs. If I’m behind a batter 2-0 or 3-1, I’m not too upset if I walk him. If he chases, great. If not, I get a fresh count against the guy on deck. Every hitter is dangerous when he’s ahead. The only time I’m really looking to see who’s on deck is when there’s a base open.”
Pitcher CC Sabathia:“It puts you more in the strike zone than you want to be. You don’t want to walk a guy and have to face a guy behind him who is capable of doing just as much damage. And hitters hit strikes, whether it’s a strike breaking ball or a fastball that catches the middle third of the plate. I think anybody who watches the game knows protection exists. If we don’t have Hanley (Ramirez) coming up behind Papi (David Ortiz), that works in their favor.”
Pitcher Adam Warren:“I’m always conscious of it, but I try not to change the way I pitch too much. I like to stick to the game plan. I try to get everybody out, but if a certain situation calls for it, I’ll pitch around the zone a little. You have to be careful in certain situations. You don’t want to let a Miguel Cabrera hurt you, but then you have a Victor Martinez hitting behind him, and that makes it tough.”
“Early in the game, it’s more about getting the hitter out who’s right in front of me. I’m not worried about who’s coming up next. The deeper you get into the game – maybe it’s tied – you have to start thinking about who you’d rather face. You might pitch around a guy, or you might go right after him. You have to be smart.”
Giants pitcher: “I should look over at the on-deck circle a lot of time, but my pride gets the better of me. I can’t remember a time that I looked over there and was actually smart about the situation. It should be that way. It’s a hard thing to do. You don’t want to give in, I don’t want to give in.”
shel311 wrote:Bumgarner is the only one i found that said he didn't care, but even said that he should and isn't smart about not doing it:
Giants pitcher: “I should look over at the on-deck circle a lot of time, but my pride gets the better of me. I can’t remember a time that I looked over there and was actually smart about the situation. It should be that way. It’s a hard thing to do. You don’t want to give in, I don’t want to give in.”
That's not what the conversation ever was aboutnick wrote:None of those quotes say someone is afraid to pitch to someone ...
More walks means less hittable pitches which equal less extra base hits.nick wrote:The entire argument is performance is individual based. I dunno what the fuck u two are arguing. If David Hewitt was on a shit team he'd have a great war cause if "they pitched around him" he'd have a high OBP and a high war. If they pitch to him, he gets on base same way he does now and has same war. Same defense.
I win!!!Cnasty wrote:Only way to find out is to put Hewitt on a bad team.
Oh wait, we did that last year
its probably more along the lines of good players are on good teams and bad players are on bad teams.. thats why theyre good or bad.DRiccio21 wrote:this is a bizarre conversation.
of course guys who play on good teams are going to see an increase in their WAR because of others on the team.
how about the simple fact that if you have a good team, you bat more if you're already a good player you're getting even more opportunities to 'be good'.
