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DRiccio21 wrote:

BFiVL wrote:Who is crying or being condescending?

my fault, i didn't realize you were truly wishing him luck in the SEC title game. i thought they were in 2nd place and Alabama was still in first place and you were just trying to take a jab. i guess i was mistaken, carry on.

I also apologize. Cause I now see where his shit talking to me by name was warranted and me putting reality in perspective was uncalled for. Carry on with the tamu chest beating.

That's condescending prior to that was perspective and reality

Cnasty wrote:Its still Texas A&M, lets not get crazy here.

In the words of Bruce Wayne, "you wanna get nuts?! All right, lets get nuts!"


Aggies are more relevant than Tha U. Eat me.

I hate the SEC, so let me get that out there, year and year TOP TO BOTTOM they are SO OVERRATED in college football, since the BCS has been put into place they have played the worst non conference schedule for a BCS conference. So how can you really judge how "great" your bottom teams are in a conference...Miss State, ect. I loved how every game AnM played in they talked about how they weren't sure they could hang with the SEC, blah blah blah..maybe your conference wasn't AS GOOD as you thought it was...NOT taking away ANYTHING from AnM from their win on the road last night, that was amazing...but that was Alabama's first GOOD offense they faced all year, and they struggled with it (Once again not taking anything away from the game or anything). But Alabama got their first REAL test on defense in my eyes, and they didn't fair to well. Florida has no business being ranked as high as they are, sorry Florida fans, but last nights game proved how overrated you are.


I am a WSU Cougar fan..but I have loved the ducks for over 10 years (cause the cougars kind of suck every year) and I am a huge Pac 12 nut, so yes I am bias. But the stats are so inflated when people talk about how awesome the SEC defenses are every year....it's cause your offenses are really that SHITTY (minus a few of the schools). I just get tired of hearing about how awesome they are top to bottom every year, and I know college football is huge in the south, and everyone on the east and south get to watch all their games, listen to all the media and blah blah blah.

I honestly was hoping for a Oregon vs Alabama game in the chipper, and it can still happen obviously, but I have alot of Irish friends that think their defense is for real....So why not put them up against the best offense in the nation in Oregon?

Time will tell, last night Chip Kelly finally pushed on the gas in the 4th and started to go to the pass game...which was nice to see, cause teams will try to stop one portion of the game. These last two games will be a true test...before last week Stanford had the best run defense in the nation....and Oregon State is no slouch on that side of the ball.

Rant over.

ON a side note, WR WIlson on the All American watch list preseason left the WSU Team today, and didn't have very nice remarks for the coaching staff haha. Will be interesting to see how that plays out.

xLiQx wrote:I hate the SEC, so let me get that out there, year and year TOP TO BOTTOM they are SO OVERRATED in college football, since the BCS has been put into place they have played the worst non conference schedule for a BCS conference. So how can you really judge how "great" your bottom teams are in a conference...Miss State, ect. I loved how every game AnM played in they talked about how they weren't sure they could hang with the SEC, blah blah blah..maybe your conference wasn't AS GOOD as you thought it was...NOT taking away ANYTHING from AnM from their win on the road last night, that was amazing...but that was Alabama's first GOOD offense they faced all year, and they struggled with it (Once again not taking anything away from the game or anything). But Alabama got their first REAL test on defense in my eyes, and they didn't fair to well. Florida has no business being ranked as high as they are, sorry Florida fans, but last nights game proved how overrated you are.


I am a WSU Cougar fan..but I have loved the ducks for over 10 years (cause the cougars kind of suck every year) and I am a huge Pac 12 nut, so yes I am bias. But the stats are so inflated when people talk about how awesome the SEC defenses are every year....it's cause your offenses are really that SHITTY (minus a few of the schools). I just get tired of hearing about how awesome they are top to bottom every year, and I know college football is huge in the south, and everyone on the east and south get to watch all their games, listen to all the media and blah blah blah.

I honestly was hoping for a Oregon vs Alabama game in the chipper, and it can still happen obviously, but I have alot of Irish friends that think their defense is for real....So why not put them up against the best offense in the nation in Oregon?

Time will tell, last night Chip Kelly finally pushed on the gas in the 4th and started to go to the pass game...which was nice to see, cause teams will try to stop one portion of the game. These last two games will be a true test...before last week Stanford had the best run defense in the nation....and Oregon State is no slouch on that side of the ball.

Rant over.

ON a side note, WR WIlson on the All American watch list preseason left the WSU Team today, and didn't have very nice remarks for the coaching staff haha. Will be interesting to see how that plays out.

6 BCS titles in a row says what?

Also, the PAC 12 is an abortion this year.

rumors now that Wilson, top WR at Wash State left because of abuse.. abuse follows Mike Leach around. now it becomes, is he just sayin that cause of Leach's history...or does Leach run a fucked up program?

xLiQx wrote:I hate the SEC, so let me get that out there, year and year TOP TO BOTTOM they are SO OVERRATED in college football, since the BCS has been put into place they have played the worst non conference schedule for a BCS conference. So how can you really judge how "great" your bottom teams are in a conference...Miss State, ect. I loved how every game AnM played in they talked about how they weren't sure they could hang with the SEC, blah blah blah..maybe your conference wasn't AS GOOD as you thought it was...NOT taking away ANYTHING from AnM from their win on the road last night, that was amazing...but that was Alabama's first GOOD offense they faced all year, and they struggled with it (Once again not taking anything away from the game or anything). But Alabama got their first REAL test on defense in my eyes, and they didn't fair to well. Florida has no business being ranked as high as they are, sorry Florida fans, but last nights game proved how overrated you are.


I am a WSU Cougar fan..but I have loved the ducks for over 10 years (cause the cougars kind of suck every year) and I am a huge Pac 12 nut, so yes I am bias. But the stats are so inflated when people talk about how awesome the SEC defenses are every year....it's cause your offenses are really that SHITTY (minus a few of the schools). I just get tired of hearing about how awesome they are top to bottom every year, and I know college football is huge in the south, and everyone on the east and south get to watch all their games, listen to all the media and blah blah blah.

I honestly was hoping for a Oregon vs Alabama game in the chipper, and it can still happen obviously, but I have alot of Irish friends that think their defense is for real....So why not put them up against the best offense in the nation in Oregon?

Time will tell, last night Chip Kelly finally pushed on the gas in the 4th and started to go to the pass game...which was nice to see, cause teams will try to stop one portion of the game. These last two games will be a true test...before last week Stanford had the best run defense in the nation....and Oregon State is no slouch on that side of the ball.

Rant over.

ON a side note, WR WIlson on the All American watch list preseason left the WSU Team today, and didn't have very nice remarks for the coaching staff haha. Will be interesting to see how that plays out.

I surely hope you don't think the PAC 10/12 have been better than the SEC in any of the last few seasons.

College fan pet peeve #1. Rooting for multiple teams. Uggggg

BFiVL wrote:College fan pet peeve #1. Rooting for multiple teams. Uggggg

or a conference.

xLiQx wrote: I am a WSU Cougar fan..but I have loved the ducks for over 10 years (cause the cougars kind of suck every year) and I am a huge Pac 12 nut, so yes I am bias.

HUH?! So which is it?

Uuaww wrote:

BFiVL wrote:College fan pet peeve #1. Rooting for multiple teams. Uggggg

or a conference.

+1

BFiVL wrote:College fan pet peeve #1. Rooting for multiple teams. Uggggg

+1 Again.



Be a fan, or dont be.

I'm a Cal fan, nothing I like more than seeing Stanford fail. Also Washington and Oregon now. Actually my own team too because I want us to fire our coach. If my team sucks, I want all my friend's teams to suck too. Luckily most are either Virginia Tech or LSU... so I'm pretty happy.

Uuaww wrote:

BFiVL wrote:College fan pet peeve #1. Rooting for multiple teams. Uggggg

or a conference.

Ill root for a conference if it helps my team.

My favorite fan is the bama football fan, duke/KY/unc basketball fan, lady vol basketball fan and UVA lax fan.

BFiVL wrote:

Uuaww wrote:

BFiVL wrote:College fan pet peeve #1. Rooting for multiple teams. Uggggg

or a conference.

Ill root for a conference if it helps my team.

My favorite fan is the bama football fan, duke/KY/unc basketball fan, lady vol basketball fan and UVA lax fan.

you forgot Yankees, Lakers, Steelers and Red Wings.

I am a fan, I am a fan of college sports, isn't that what it's about? I follow coaches as well, with me being one, I love different ways people coach, like I loved Pete Carroll, he is an amazing, smart coach, and a great motivator, so I was a huge fan when he went to the Seahawks.


I think the Pac 12 is better top to bottom than the SEC..yes, I do actually. I never once said the SEC sucked at the top, so trying to bring up the bsc championship games and whatnot, But the hype about how awesome of a conference top to bottom they are is bogus, and it ruins the rankings and BCS.....there are too many SEC fans in here for any of you guys to realize any of this, so it won't work. I honestly though that Alabama was the best team in the nation in all three aspects of the game before the game, ask anyone who I talk to about college football, but after this weeks game, I don't believe that anymore.


And just for the record the Pac 12 is the best conference in college sports...always has been, and always will if you want to talk about history we can


And why can't I like more than one team? I never went to college there...I went to college in North Dakota, so I don't have an allegiance anywhere, I love Chip Kelly, and I have met Nick as well (DC for Oregon) and he is a great guy, and a great football mind, so I started to follow the ducks, that was actually a little over 9 years ago. That is why I like the Ducks, not cause of their fancy jerseys or anything like that.

As far as cheering for the conference, it's mainly cause I just dont' like all the hype around the SEC really, hatred for it I guess you could say, I am sure if I lived in Eugene, or attended their, or even WSU at Pullman (which I have attended several games when I was a kid, I remember the snow bowl apple cup), then maybe my perception would be a bit different on why and who I cheer for, I don't have a "hatred" for any Pac 12 teams...I do however have a hatred for LSU, they are a good football team, play in the south and I just can't stand them. And Les Miles to me is a gomer...I love Nick Saban as a coach though, I love the way he approaches it, and have enjoyed alot of good material he has put out, so if I had to pick 2 teams I HATE the least in the SEC....I would say Alabama, Missouri, Texas AnM haha. Basically a tie. I love the sport of college football.
A> We get to fight about everything and anything cause there is really no system right now to find out who is the best...
B> It's fun to see the way people follow/love/hate other teams based on NUMEROUS factors
C> WAAAAY more games to watch on a week to wweek basis
D> EVERYONE game does count.

So flame away, tell me how crazy it is, or how awesome the SEC is cause they have won the BCS for 6 years in a row, cause once again I never said they shouldn't be in the game, remember I said top to bottom


I <3 College Football, or just football in general really.

nick wrote:rumors now that Wilson, top WR at Wash State left because of abuse.. abuse follows Mike Leach around. now it becomes, is he just sayin that cause of Leach's history...or does Leach run a fucked up program?

Well from the articles that I could find, even the last few weeks, Wilson has been a "crybaby" as one of the teammates said, about Leach calling his team cowards the way they have been playing lately, so I guess he was getting upset and disruptive during meetings, so they demoted him from a starter, and then he ended up leaving the program today. Leach is a VERY outspoken coach, that is well known, and I think the way some players are coached and taught now (where you have to watch what you say), it doesn't sit will, I AM HOPING that he will be able to recruit "his" players and the team can become a little bit more enjoyable to watch, after our collapse in Colorado this year, It has been pretty ugly.

xLiQx wrote:I think the Pac 12 is better top to bottom than the SEC..yes, I do actually

Dude, c'mon.

xLiQx wrote:
I think the Pac 12 is better top to bottom than the SEC..yes, I do actually.

Thats why 5 out of the top 10 teams in the AP poll are from the SEC?

shel311 wrote:

xLiQx wrote:I think the Pac 12 is better top to bottom than the SEC..yes, I do actually

Dude, c'mon.

We are 12-11 against you guys since 2000....Thanks.


2000
UCLA 35, No. 3 Alabama 24

2001
No. 17 UCLA 20, No. 25 Alabama 17

2002
No. 19 USC 24, Auburn 17
No. 15 Oregon 36, Mississippi State 13

2003
No. 13 LSU 59, Arizona 13
No. 8 USC 23, No. 6 Auburn 0
Oregon 42, Mississippi State 34

2004
No. 4 LSU 22, Oregon State 21 (OT)

2005
No. 5 LSU 35, No. 15 Arizona State 31
No. 1 USC 70, Arkansas 17

2006
No. 8 LSU 45, Arizona 3
No. 23 Tennessee 35, No. 9 Cal 18
No. 6 USC 50, Arkansas 14
No. 4 Auburn 40, Washington State 14

2007
No. 12 Cal 45, No. 15 Tennessee 31

2008
UCLA 27, No. 18 Tennessee 24 (OT)
No. 3 Georgia 27, Arizona State 10

2009
No. 11 LSU 31, Washington 23
UCLA 19, Tennessee 15
Georgia 20, Arizona State 17

2010
No. 7 Oregon 48, Tennessee 13

2011
No. 1 Auburn 22, No. 2 Oregon 19 (BCS National Championship Game)

2011
No. 4 LSU 40, No. 3 Oregon 27

Now I could dig into this deeper but I dont' want to take the time to really haha. This is PRE MIssouri/Texas AnM, Colorado, Utah joining the picture.

xliqx the problem is that stat doesn't show top the bottom... all those wins are by usc, ucla and oregon (except Cal's win over Tennessee)

swellvermin wrote:

xLiQx wrote:
I think the Pac 12 is better top to bottom than the SEC..yes, I do actually.

Thats why 5 out of the top 10 teams in the AP poll are from the SEC?

Did you read anything...at all....? That is why I said they are overrated....they play the WORST non conference schedule as a conference in the nation of a BSC Conference....if you let ANY of the other schools do that, of course they are going to have AT LEAST 1 less loss, they should try adding more CONFERENCE games then, even 1 or 2, and you have more losses.

LSU's non conference schedule....

North Texas (4-6), Washington(6-4), Idaho (1-9), Townson (6-4)

Miss State (SO OVERRATED)

Jackson State, Troy, South Alabama, Middle Tenneesee...with a schedule like tat you should go 4-0 to start the season, do you belong to be ranked in the top 12? NOT AT ALL..they hav egot THUMPED playing the better teams in the SEC so far, 0-3.

Florida Fans

Bowling Green, Rajun Cajuns who should of beat you, Jacksonville State? I will give you props for playing Florida State though, but you are pretty much forced to I think.

I could keep going, but you get the hint right?