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Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:22 pm
by shel311
brwnbear wrote:
shel311 wrote:
brwnbear wrote:Quick question. I was reading Corey's recap and something caught my eye.

Is user catch cheasy? I made two really cool plays where I came back to the ball on an out route. Would that be cheasy?
Let's just say "certain guy(s)" think that user catching is cheesy.
Is there a reason behind that line of thinking?
Not being good at user catching would be my guess. :lol:

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:23 pm
by Cnasty
And losing. :lol:

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:27 pm
by nick
ajalves wrote:
brwnbear wrote: Is user catch cheasy? I made two really cool plays where I came back to the ball on an out route. Would that be cheasy?
whats "cheasy"? ;)
so we pick on me for "you're" and then you come out with this one eh. Dick

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:28 pm
by ajalves
nick wrote:
ajalves wrote:
brwnbear wrote: Is user catch cheasy? I made two really cool plays where I came back to the ball on an out route. Would that be cheasy?
whats "cheasy"? ;)
so we pick on me for "you're" and then you come out with this one eh. Dick
twice in one sentence, had to do it

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:29 pm
by DRiccio21
Hamburguesas con queso

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:32 pm
by iRoccafella
I don't see how user catch is cheesin... It's a pain in the ass yes, but I don't consider anything labeled "user" cheesy, outside of user jump snap on every down without fail. Other than that, it still requires some form of effort. Unless of course your lobbing Rainbows to your Impact 6'5" receiver every other play. :roll:

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:33 pm
by shel311
DRiccio21 wrote:Hamburguesas con queso
Odds that anyone in the league other than me gets this post?

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:38 pm
by Nole4real
Just to be clear for anyone misunderstanding

General user catching isnt considered by the masses to be cheese.

Its specifically using it as a primary form of offense and further i believe, we're talking about user catching on "lobs" and JUMPING user catching.

i dont think anyone has issues when you're running an out, or slant or even post (grabbing the wr to try to catch the ball before it gets to a safety)

of course this is my opinion, i could be wrong

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:40 pm
by ajalves
Nole4real wrote:Just to be clear for anyone misunderstanding

General user catching isnt considered by the masses to be cheese.

Its specifically using it as a primary form of offense and further i believe, we're talking about user catching on "lobs" and JUMPING user catching.

i dont think anyone has issues when you're running an out, or slant or even post (grabbing the wr to try to catch the ball before it gets to a safety)

of course this is my opinion, i could be wrong
accurate

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:41 pm
by Cnasty
In this case you would be wrong because "user catching is cheasy and sad you had to restort to that to win at the end".

Even though I am one of the worst user anythings out there. :lol:

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:42 pm
by shel311
Cnasty wrote:In this case you would be wrong because "user catching is cheasy and sad you had to restort to that to win at the end".

Even though I am one of the worst user anythings out there. :lol:
This is why I'm all for dropping the lowest coaches reports, because of guys that do stuff like this.

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:45 pm
by ajalves
shel311 wrote:
Cnasty wrote:In this case you would be wrong because "user catching is cheasy and sad you had to restort to that to win at the end".

Even though I am one of the worst user anythings out there. :lol:
This is why I'm all for dropping the lowest coaches reports, because of guys that do stuff like this.
not necessary

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:49 pm
by OracleHCR
Sorocco88 wrote:I don't see how user catch is cheesin... It's a pain in the ass yes, but I don't consider anything labeled "user" cheesy, outside of user jump snap on every down without fail. Other than that, it still requires some form of effort. Unless of course your lobbing Rainbows to your Impact 6'5" receiver every other play. :roll:
Not all user catches are cheesy. I mean if a pass is off the mark and you take control of the receiver and make a play on the ball I applaud that. But some will lob it deep and take control of the receiver early, weave off the route and draw the db with him, then cut back in and make the catch. Play a lobby game if you want to see it.

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:50 pm
by ajalves
OracleHCR wrote:
Sorocco88 wrote:I don't see how user catch is cheesin... It's a pain in the ass yes, but I don't consider anything labeled "user" cheesy, outside of user jump snap on every down without fail. Other than that, it still requires some form of effort. Unless of course your lobbing Rainbows to your Impact 6'5" receiver every other play. :roll:
Not all user catches are cheesy. I mean if a pass is off the mark and you take control of the receiver and make a play on the ball I applaud that. But some will lob it deep and take control of the receiver early, weave off the route and draw the db with him, then cut back in and make the catch. Play a lobby game if you want to see it.
this is what i was talking about yesterday

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:51 pm
by Uuaww
probably 50% of the league has never played a lobby game, I actually haven't played any outside of the 8 league games plus cup game.

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:51 pm
by ReignOnU
shel311 wrote:
brwnbear wrote:Quick question. I was reading Corey's recap and something caught my eye.

Is user catch cheasy? I made two really cool plays where I came back to the ball on an out route. Would that be cheasy?
Let's just say "certain guy(s)" think that user catching is cheesy.

Project time for Uuaww... we need game play demographics analysis! Put together a chart of guys and detail their NCAA style. Ex, are they usually considered cheesy? Are they a pain in the butt to schedule? Do they whine about everything in the game? Do they consider user catching cheesy? Do they consider play the pass cheesy? Do they run too much? Do they pass too much? Will they dock you for blinking/breathing? Will they not dock you even if you run HB direct all game?

:-P

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:02 pm
by OracleHCR
Uuaww wrote:probably 50% of the league has never played a lobby game, I actually haven't played any outside of the 8 league games plus cup game.
The only lobby games I play are against friends. Some of the guys have never seen this done before so I was just giving them a place to see it. I play alot of farm games and see it all the time by guys who will never make it to the league.

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:05 pm
by brwnbear
I had a game against Northwestern where on the first drive of the game, I threw a deep pass (lobbed) that was underthrown and into double coverage. I took control of my WR and hit Triangle as soon as he was in the circle. He then jumped up and caught the ball while both NU players stood and watched. Couldnt believe what happend and have never seen it happen since. I am sure chusker was pissed and wouldnt blame him if he docked me for it. But I swear, it was 99% luck and 1% skill.


He actually uploaded the picture.
http://www.onlinedynasty.net/ndl2/game.php?game=65

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:06 pm
by ReignOnU
I usually switch to the DB, so that's why I've never realized that the DB would actually follow the freakin' WR. That's just stupid. If the ball is in the air, they should be making a play on the ball. Hoos... can you remind us how crappy this AI is?

Re: ANYONE HELP??????

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:06 pm
by nick
that looked like a sick catch