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sixpackdan101 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:09 pm

nick wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:36 pm

ajalves wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:34 pm

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:36 pm I'm almost positive Nebraska is one of the first 5 states to open up. Mostly due to the low positive cases and deaths here in the state compared to elsewhere.

wonder why the numbers are low? hmm

Id rather get covid than live in Nebraska

We’d rather you get Covid than live here too

shel311 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:31 pm NDL:O - Let us know what the outside work is like in May.

Governor Mike DeWine
@GovMikeDeWine
I am an optimist and am confident that Ohioans will also live up to the challenge of doing things differently as we open back up beginning on May 1st.

ajalves wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:45 pm states talking about opening schools back up in 2 weeks isn't a wise move IMO

Cnasty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:05 pm "Opening Up America Again" Plan

Plan that is being discussed on May 1st recommended to state governors from President and “governors call their own shot”...completely different then he is the end all be all authoritarian.

14 straight days of declining new cases required to get to phase 1.

Phase 1
"Vulnerable" people shelter in place
Schools stay close
Restaurants can be open under very "strict guidelines", Bars closed
Gyms reopen-very strict distancing
No more then 10 people in a gathering
Minimize non-essential travel

Phase 2
Same for vulnerable
Encourage telework, some workers return in phases
Schools reopen
No more then 50 people gathering
Non-essential travel can resume
Bars open, same restaurant

Phase 3
No restrictions on workplace
Limit physical distancing and sanitation "protocols"

This is very very gray but its something

These prevalence estimates represent a range between 48,000 and 81,000 people infected in Santa Clara County by early April, 50-85-fold more than the number of confirmed cases.

ReignOnU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:53 am 50-85-fold more than the number of confirmed cases.

Weasel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:58 am

ReignOnU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:53 am 50-85-fold more than the number of confirmed cases.

Without even knowing what the confirmed cases are, Im going to guess that they mean 50-85 times, not fold. A 50-85 fold increase in anything would be an astronomical number

Under the CARES Act, hospitals get paid 15% more by Medicare if they classify their patients as having “a principal or secondary diagnosis of COVID-19.” Get ready for every hospital in America to pass off everyday coughing as “suspected COVID-19.”

ReignOnU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:04 pm

Weasel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:58 am

ReignOnU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:53 am 50-85-fold more than the number of confirmed cases.

Without even knowing what the confirmed cases are, Im going to guess that they mean 50-85 times, not fold. A 50-85 fold increase in anything would be an astronomical number

Fold means times, multiple. Not exponential.

In the field of genomics (and more generally in bioinformatics), the modern usage is to define fold change in terms of ratios, and not by the alternative definition.[9][10]

However, log-ratios are often used for analysis and visualization of fold changes. The logarithm to base 2 is most commonly used,[9][10] as it is easy to interpret, e.g. a doubling in the original scaling is equal to a log2 fold change of 1, a quadrupling is equal to a log2 fold change of 2 and so on.

ReignOnU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:07 pm https://twitter.com/Avik/status/1250482413978992641

Under the CARES Act, hospitals get paid 15% more by Medicare if they classify their patients as having “a principal or secondary diagnosis of COVID-19.” Get ready for every hospital in America to pass off everyday coughing as “suspected COVID-19.”

You get corona! You get corona! You get corona!

There is a headline news article that quotes Mayor DeBlasio that most of these deaths were in long term facilities. Without testing what is the purpose of inflating numbers that cannot be verified? There has to be a motive behind this.

Conspiracy theory forthcoming:
The cities and states get more federal money for healthcare upgrades with the extra deaths?

I would hope that's not the case but can see some logic to it if the numbers line up. Anyone know of a website to follow the money?

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:22 pm

ReignOnU wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:07 pm https://twitter.com/Avik/status/1250482413978992641

Under the CARES Act, hospitals get paid 15% more by Medicare if they classify their patients as having “a principal or secondary diagnosis of COVID-19.” Get ready for every hospital in America to pass off everyday coughing as “suspected COVID-19.”

You get corona! You get corona! You get corona!

Sounds like my conspiracy theory may be correct.

There is a headline news article that quotes Mayor DeBlasio that most of these deaths were in long term facilities. Without testing what is the purpose of inflating numbers that cannot be verified? There has to be a motive behind this.

Conspiracy theory forthcoming:
The cities and states get more federal money for healthcare upgrades with the extra deaths?

I would hope that's not the case but can see some logic to it if the numbers line up. Anyone know of a website to follow the money?

nick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:35 pm or maybe it's cause theyre dying of covid..

shel311 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:50 pm

nick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:35 pm or maybe it's cause theyre dying of covid..

If only there was some way to find out if people have this virus...

Cnasty wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:32 pm Texas has officially closed all schools for the rest of the year.