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Lack of parental involvement. Lack of whether the schools have any REAL say in who gets to come to their schools.

easier gun access.

kids don't know the difference between growing up as a teenager and being bullied

ajalves wrote:Lack of parental involvement. Lack of whether the schools have any REAL say in who gets to come to their schools.

easier gun access.

kids don't know the difference between growing up as a teenager and being bullied

lol wot?

Pictures being plastered everywhere now with his Make America Great Again hat.

This will all be forgotten about in the next couple days and then right back into the cycle when the next one happens. Which statistically speaking may be next week.

as an outsider

1. Guns
2. Population
3. Mental Health
4. Tribalism

usually a mix of these cause a shooting. America has 330+ million people and like an avg of 1 gun/person? To be honest its shocking this isnt more frequent, especially with mental health going up.

Cnasty wrote:Pictures being plastered everywhere now with his Make America Great Again hat.

This will all be forgotten about in the next couple days and then right back into the cycle when the next one happens. Which statistically speaking may be next week.

Funny just had a MAGA post on FB the shooter was a registered Democrat.

I think it's over 2 guns per person for the US. From an article I just read I'm wrong, it is closer to 1:1 guns to people.

Ease of access is a major part of it. Gun advocates will tell you that people that want a gun will find one anyway. Countries where it is a lot harder to get a gun and where gun violence is significantly lower tell a different story.

Of course, at this point you can't just make it harder to get a gun (though there is zero downside to that): there's already 800+ million out there. But there is no chance they start collecting, confiscating, or limiting current gun ownership.

ajalves wrote:Lack of parental involvement. Lack of whether the schools have any REAL say in who gets to come to their schools.

easier gun access.

kids don't know the difference between growing up as a teenager and being bullied

US is one of the only countries that educate "all" students. Whack jobs get filtered out in other countries before they get dangerous.

nick wrote:

ajalves wrote:Lack of parental involvement. Lack of whether the schools have any REAL say in who gets to come to their schools.

easier gun access.

kids don't know the difference between growing up as a teenager and being bullied

lol wot?

Bullying is repeated harassment physical or mental. A lot of parents play the my kid is being bullied and that’s not the case. It’s typical teenage behavior. A kid gets ripped on for a day for something is typical teenage stuff. Now repeating it on and on is bullying.

dakshdar wrote:I think it's over 2 guns per person for the US. From an article I just read I'm wrong, it is closer to 1:1 guns to people.

Ease of access is a major part of it. Gun advocates will tell you that people that want a gun will find one anyway. Countries where it is a lot harder to get a gun and where gun violence is significantly lower tell a different story.

Of course, at this point you can't just make it harder to get a gun (though there is zero downside to that): there's already 800+ million out there. But there is no chance they start collecting, confiscating, or limiting current gun ownership.

I am not necessarily a gun advocate, but then how do you explain Chicago?
The state of Illinois has some of the toughest gun laws in America, yet, Chicago is one of the worst cities in America for gun violence.
I am not saying to not make gun laws tougher. I have said it before, but as a citizen with no criminal background, I will be able to get a gun no matter how strict they make the laws, so I am definitely not against stricter gun laws.

Chicago would be an outlier. The myth about states with gun laws having higher crimes is just that, a myth.

States with stricter gun laws have fewer gun related deaths.

Can’t post this enough as it is accurate. Especially since Niddler and others are having the same replies we had the last shooting.

shel311 wrote:

One of my favorites.

Call me an a-hole are cynical but I believe him. The Ts and Ps is a "look at me" social media post IMO.

Winter Olympics related - The Skeleton is batshit crazy.

The_Niddler wrote:

dakshdar wrote:I think it's over 2 guns per person for the US. From an article I just read I'm wrong, it is closer to 1:1 guns to people.

Ease of access is a major part of it. Gun advocates will tell you that people that want a gun will find one anyway. Countries where it is a lot harder to get a gun and where gun violence is significantly lower tell a different story.

Of course, at this point you can't just make it harder to get a gun (though there is zero downside to that): there's already 800+ million out there. But there is no chance they start collecting, confiscating, or limiting current gun ownership.

I am not necessarily a gun advocate, but then how do you explain Chicago?
The state of Illinois has some of the toughest gun laws in America, yet, Chicago is one of the worst cities in America for gun violence.
I am not saying to not make gun laws tougher. I have said it before, but as a citizen with no criminal background, I will be able to get a gun no matter how strict they make the laws, so I am definitely not against stricter gun laws.

I'm not sure general Americans care about criminals killing each other as much as innocent people getting killed. It appears that the large majority of Chicago gun homicides are gang members (a significant number of which are young black men between 17 and 35) killing each other (though there are obviously still bystander deaths).

I also didn't say that stricter gun laws work. I said when there is no access and you can't readily find guns, you don't have significant gun violence. The examples would be the UK, Australia, Japan, South Korea... the list goes on.

I'm also simply not a believer that Americans need guns nor that simply because it is written in a law that it can't be questioned. Some people treat The Constitution as something that can never change - but to simply do that without looking at the time in which it was written and without being able to compare how and why things have changed in ~250 years is somewhat silly to me.

shel311 wrote:Chicago would be an outlier.

So explain Baltimore.....

We can go on and on. It's not a gun problem. It's a parent and mental health problem

lol its a gun problem. its always been and always will be. Why are people in such denial? :s ..

nick wrote:lol its a gun problem. its always been and always will be. Why are people in such denial? :s ..

Nowhere near a gun problem. If it was there would be a hell of a lot more of these instances happening with the amount of guns in the US.

Criminals will always find a way to be a criminals. If not a gun they can use bombs, vehicles.......

:s