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Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:59 am
by Uuaww
Cnasty wrote:
ajalves wrote: Its unbecoming.
You using the term "unbecoming" is...unbecoming. :D
Other than the fantastic use of vocabulary, he also wrote that with excellent sentence structure... and are those paragraphs?!?!

I've been reading the board much more the last few days, usually I just rant with Shel at 4 am and catch up on everything. But now that I am working longer hours I get to fully enjoy the relationships on the boards as well as chime in from time to time.

When you do board reviews at 4 am to catch up, you miss out on some of the smaller quarrels, sure the jsence v. nick fights stand out but some of the small tiffs can get lost.

Keep it up guys, day 6 of 15 for me is going splendid so far.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:04 am
by shel311
packsyD22 wrote:Shel is a numbers guy walker........can't base his opinions with his own eyes because he doesn't know the game of football like someone who actually may have played or coaches the game does..

And you're a dude who can't seem to know how to debate a topic with someone rationally.

You use your "eyes" which is laughable because you've already proven to be a HUGE hater and you let your biases get in the way of your judgment.

I could give a fuck if I played football and you're the badass OC at some school in Cali, i'll take my UNBIASED judgments over your ridiculously skewed "eye" ANY day.


So, whatever, keep thinking you're some know it all and I don't know the game of football, blah blah blah.

It's laughable that you had to resort to THAT because you can't have a rational debate about football.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:06 am
by ajalves
shel311 wrote:
packsyD22 wrote:Shel is a numbers guy walker........can't base his opinions with his own eyes because he doesn't know the game of football like someone who actually may have played or coaches the game does..

And you're a dude who can't seem to know how to debate a topic with someone rationally.

You use your "eyes" which is laughable because you've already proven to be a HUGE hater and you let your biases get in the way of your judgment.

I could give a fuck if I played football and you're the badass OC at some school in Cali, i'll take my UNBIASED judgments over your ridiculously skewed "eye" ANY day.


So, whatever, keep thinking you're some know it all and I don't know the game of football, blah blah blah.

It's laughable that you had to resort to THAT because you can't have a rational debate about football.

Grow up dude.
whoa whoa....my reply was more calm than Shel's


What is the world coming to????????

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:06 am
by Cnasty
Every debate is the same though.

Nick will say something super ridiculous that makes everyone laugh and say "does he really mean that?"

Dave and Shel will always agree and dispute everyone else's views because they are"numbers and statistics people and hate fire, emotion, and motors that never stop!!" and take the word of Lebatard as gospel.

Packsy will say ridiculous things with a West coast homer flair and sillyness that brings on some heat.

VVV will relate everything to gambling and tout is 37 game win streak.

And Reign hates Lebron.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:09 am
by DRiccio21
everything balances out, thats the beauty of numbers.

my favorite was when he was breaking down the audible at the line as if i need to know how break down a defensive package to change a play at the line in order to analyze the game. guess what... if a qb is good at reading defenses, his numbers will show it. if he isn't, chances are that he'll have bad numbers.

in my business, i know probably 1/10th of what my colleagues know about the economy... maybe even less. i literally don't care about ANY of it because to do my job (which is to make people money) all i need to do is understand certain numbers and patterns. people can sit there and try to make me feel stupid cause i don't understand how certain economic news effects certain things. i don't need to.... its not important to me. i outperform 99% of the people in my industry and don't have a fucking clue about most of the nonsense that goes on in the economy. i actually havent read more then 10 articles in the Wall St. Journal in my entire life, most were for college too.

my point is people like to complicate things, people like to feel smarter then others... truth is most things are very simple if you can just base them on history and comparing numbers.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:14 am
by Uuaww
Cnasty wrote:Every debate is the same though.

Nick will say something super ridiculous that makes everyone laugh and say "does he really mean that?"

Dave and Shel will always agree and dispute everyone else's views because they are"numbers and statistics people and hate fire, emotion, and motors that never stop!!" and take the word of Lebatard as gospel.

Packsy will say ridiculous things with a West coast homer flair and sillyness that brings on some heat.

VVV will relate everything to gambling and tout is 37 game win streak.

And Reign hates Lebron.
you forgot to add the jsence and autiger homerism and inability to deal with logic when faced with anyting UK or AU related.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:17 am
by shel311
ajalves wrote:whoa whoa....my reply was more calm than Shel's


What is the world coming to????????

The NDL Bully title, give it back!!!

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:18 am
by ajalves
shel311 wrote:
ajalves wrote:whoa whoa....my reply was more calm than Shel's


What is the world coming to????????

The NDL Bully title, give it back!!!
done.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:19 am
by shel311
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Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:23 am
by packsyD22
I am many things (a dumbass, can not spell, don't like numbers, a liar, etc) but if there is one thing I am not is any kind of homer. I argue points for the west coast teams because no one else on this board really does. There have been plenty of times when I say guys from outside the west coast are very good. Please do not EVER tag me with a homer title because that is far from the truth, the other stuff that is fine. I mean I am a hue Trojan fan and have I ever come on here and beaten my chest about how good our program was or how we vacated wins because some ones father broke the rules (I mean look at jsense and autiger, call their schools cheats and they lose their minds.)

I will tell you guys one more reason I am not a numbers guy. I make a majority of my posts from my cell phone at wprk in the bathroom and do not have time to always back my facts up with stats and just go off of what I am watching. Imagine going into a debate with someone if we were just meeting as two people in a sports book with no internet or facts to back us up. That is kind of how I make my arguments or points on this board because I do not always have the time to back them up.

Aja I played JUCO ball and started at Quarterback my second season at College of the Canyons but tore my ACL for the second time and got right into coaching after that. Coached at the JUCO and moved onto what I do right now. Not boasting that at all just answering your ?.

And sorry if I have been acting like a dick or seem like a know it all I am far from it in person, I was truthfully trying to bug Shel and I am well on my way to doing it. :)

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:26 am
by packsyD22
And he reason I bring up knowing football into my arguments is solely because its the only sport that I really know. I watch the NBA/CBB/ and baseball when it is on every night but I don't pretend to know shit about it even if I know guys stats are good due to the fact that I don't know strategies and other shit like this.

I guess maybe when you coach a sport like I do you tend to get completely turned off by people who give their opinions but do not know the x's and o's of the game and it can be frustrating but it should not discount their points so I should def try and get better at realizing that on this board. Hugs and kisses......or i should say x's and o's. :P

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:10 pm
by walker213
LetsGoPeay wrote:Sure Garcon is fast and runs good routes... when he's running the correct route. I've watched every minute of every Colts game since... forever. I can't count the number of times where I've seen Manning bitch at Garcon because he wasn't where he was supposed to be. I can think of at least three Manning INT's this year that were due to Garcon running the wrong route. Then there's all the dropped balls that went right through his hands. Right now Garcon is a huge example of a risk/reward player. Last year he was probably 80/20 in favor of reward. This year he's breaking even or even slightly negative.
I value your opinion. You have watched every game so you know exactly what's going on. I was just judging him based off when I watch him play. I never said he was Marvin Harrison, I just said he has all the intangibles to be a solid receiver in the NFL. I never knew he had stone hands though, I guess he just brings his A-game when I watch him! lol

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:52 pm
by nick
Cnasty wrote:Every debate is the same though.

Nick will say something super ridiculous that makes everyone laugh and say "does he really mean that?"

Dave and Shel will always agree and dispute everyone else's views because they are"numbers and statistics people and hate fire, emotion, and motors that never stop!!" and take the word of Lebatard as gospel.

Packsy will say ridiculous things with a West coast homer flair and sillyness that brings on some heat.

VVV will relate everything to gambling and tout is 37 game win streak.

And Reign hates Lebron.
No, I don't really mean it

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:08 pm
by LetsGoPeay
walker213 wrote:
LetsGoPeay wrote:Sure Garcon is fast and runs good routes... when he's running the correct route. I've watched every minute of every Colts game since... forever. I can't count the number of times where I've seen Manning bitch at Garcon because he wasn't where he was supposed to be. I can think of at least three Manning INT's this year that were due to Garcon running the wrong route. Then there's all the dropped balls that went right through his hands. Right now Garcon is a huge example of a risk/reward player. Last year he was probably 80/20 in favor of reward. This year he's breaking even or even slightly negative.
I value your opinion. You have watched every game so you know exactly what's going on. I was just judging him based off when I watch him play. I never said he was Marvin Harrison, I just said he has all the intangibles to be a solid receiver in the NFL. I never knew he had stone hands though, I guess he just brings his A-game when I watch him! lol
The weird thing is that he doesn't seem to have stone hands. Its almost as if he has weak hands. A lot of balls will just go through his hands as if he can't handle a hard thrown ball. I really think that if Gonzalez, Collie, and Clark weren't hurt he would have been demoted by now due to his lack of focus and not valuing the ball at times.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:11 pm
by Uuaww
LetsGoPeay wrote:The weird thing is that he doesn't seem to have stone hands. Its almost as if he has weak hands. A lot of balls will just go through his hands as if he can't handle a hard thrown ball. I really think that if Gonzalez, Collie, and Clark weren't hurt he would have been demoted by now due to his lack of focus and not valuing the ball at times.
Garcon is a #4 WR that is being put into a #2 spot.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:14 pm
by ajalves
Uuaww wrote: Garcon is a #4 WR that is being put into a #2 spot.
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:D :D :D

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:15 pm
by LetsGoPeay
Uuaww wrote:
LetsGoPeay wrote:The weird thing is that he doesn't seem to have stone hands. Its almost as if he has weak hands. A lot of balls will just go through his hands as if he can't handle a hard thrown ball. I really think that if Gonzalez, Collie, and Clark weren't hurt he would have been demoted by now due to his lack of focus and not valuing the ball at times.
Garcon is a #4 WR that is being put into a #2 spot.
Fo real

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:18 pm
by Cnasty
Uuaww wrote:Garcon is a #4 WR that is being put into a #2 spot.
Or a slot receiver (an SL or Y) for the football experts....

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:20 pm
by ajalves
Cnasty wrote:
Uuaww wrote:Garcon is a #4 WR that is being put into a #2 spot.
Or a slot receiver (an SL or Y) for the football experts....
:D

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:26 pm
by Seeitsaveit13
Cnasty wrote:
Uuaww wrote:Garcon is a #4 WR that is being put into a #2 spot.
Or a slot receiver (an SL or Y) for the football experts....
But if they're in a 46 defense and he's still got a CB lined up on him what do you audible to?

Argument lost. Point me.