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Shiftdnb wrote:What is your opinions on the Bank bailout? What should be done to balance our budget? Cuts, revenue? Something has to be done, decision makers what are your answers?

And Trendon answered my first question...I can't figure him out, now he sounds like he is part of Occupy Wall Street

When it comes to the military budget I would have no problem cutting a 1/3 of that budget with one swoop of cutting all government contractors out of jobs that the military can do. For instance....

In Ramadi, Iraq (as well as all other established FOBs) we had an office called the Mayor Cell. They are in charge of all contracts to the Iraqis and 3rd country nationals. They cut out 90% of the military out of those jobs and put in civilians. There was a job that was ran by an E4 (making roughly $40k deployed) pretty much answering phones and what not and they put in a GS-12 civilian making over $130k. All the civilians running the chow hall, we have jobs in the military that do this but we hire civilians making 2 to 3 times as much to do the same job. There is a lot of wasted money with these contractors.
Dude, we are at war to satisfy the cravings of the contractors; chow hall surplus salaries is a drop in the bucket.

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You're a corporate asset, George. Jason Bourne is coming to kill you soon.
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trendon wrote:You're a corporate asset, George. Jason Bourne is coming to kill you soon.
I aint scared of that pussy

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Shiftdnb wrote:What is your opinions on the Bank bailout? What should be done to balance our budget? Cuts, revenue? Something has to be done, decision makers what are your answers?
i don't need to have the answers, i'm not a politician. if there was an easy answer, it'd be done already.

i'll take a stab tho. to fix the issues you need to take the uncertainty out of the market. business owiners can't hire because the environment in washington is unknown. they can't hire an employee when they don't know what regulation is coming around the corner. a 50k per yr employee could cost much more with added regulations and taxes. our legislature isn't business friendly, thats the issue. no business owner or person who hires (myself included) would ever think of making a considerable amount of hires when i have no fucking clue what its going to cost me in 6 months to have that new employee.

good businesses don't need washington to create jobs, they can create their own and would if their wasn't more regulation and taxes. bad companies will fail because they are poorly run and they should all be allowed to fail. i'm for a fair and free market... not gov't intervention.

the more regulation, the bigger the gov't. the bigger the gov't the more corrupt and worse off our country is.

less regulation and taxes allows innovative new companies to grow and create the next apple, the next chipotle mexican grillees, the next google. thats what gets more revenue and gets higher employment. by adding regulation and adding taxes the amount of companies like that will shrink considerably and great minds will have less incentive to stay in our country to grow their businesses.
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Thread over! Riccio is not a stupid douchebag dickface cunt for one fleeting moment in time!
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Shiftdnb wrote:What is your opinions on the Bank bailout? What should be done to balance our budget? Cuts, revenue? Something has to be done, decision makers what are your answers?
No one likes the Bank bailouts, but the program was a success. The Government realized that a few major banks, Wells Fargo, Wash U, Citi, and BoA, which collectively controlled more than half of the depositors reserves, where not going to be able to meet their obligations to their clients and debtors. What do you do when you hear that half of your friends have lost their savings in a money market or checking account with a major bank? If you are smart, you go to your bank and request a distribution of all your funds so it doesnt happen to you. In the meantime, confidence in the banking system erodes, banks are low on cash or dont have the cash (because they have lent it out) to cash out your savings and checking, and all hell breaks lose. Now the bank is closing down your credit card, line of credit, and the line of credit that is used by businesses to buy supplies and make payroll. As a result thousands of businesses cant meet their obligations and we are in full panic.

So the US Gov forces all major banks to take loans (under the understanding that if you decline, you will never be able to get assistance of any kind). All major banks where forced to take the bailout so people would not be able to make out which ones are in trouble, and start a run on deposits, making the situation worse. So what is a company like Goldman Sachs, with 80 Billion in cash suppose to do, take the money and try to make a profit so you can pay back the government back with interest. In the end, the US actually made a profit from the original bailouts. The failure was the auto bailout, where the government will never get its money back, but no one seems to worry about that (strange).

The government had an opportunity to cap compensation and re-work contracts as a condition of assistance, but failed to do so. Once the bank pays the government its money back, they should be allowed to run their business how they see fit, with massive stipulations in order to receive further aid.

Expenses should be cut to balance our budget. George mentioned ways to cut the defense budget. If you are going to raise taxes and I think you are going to eventually have to, it should be on everyone. Singling out a small portion of the population that already pays more than 50% of all taxes, while providing credits and refunds to those that pay 0, is not a fair method.

Capital gains tax is there to help drive venture capital. Facebook may not exist today, along with all the jobs it created if not for the capital investments made by a few. You want to entice people to free up money, make it easier for them to make money, by reducing taxes, not raising them.
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i will admit i wasn't in the mortgage industry when everything crashed, but the ARM is not an unfair product. It's actually quite fair if you know what you're doing.

They are an awesome product for people who won't stay in their house for longer than 5 years, and even if someone agreed to the terms thinking they'd be out sooner they could get out of it by refinancing in any of the 59 months prior to it's adjustment. Now people not understanding that is a problem, but like reign said you should realize your signature means a lot...
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so its wall streets fault that people are racist, sexist, etc? that dudes dumb
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cdub21 wrote:so its wall streets fault that people are racist, sexist, etc? that dudes dumb
Actually you're dumb, he wasn't saying it was their fault he was saying that we live in a world that imagines this doesn't happen every day but in fact it does.

Just look in the Trendo's Police thread today. A NYPD officer admitted that planting drugs on innocent people happens with regularity in order to fill up quotas. When asked how he felt for those innocent people he stated he was totally immune to it and that in his eyes these people were free the next day if not a couple of days. What happens to a persons job when they're arrested? What happens to that family? If you're ignorant to the fact that this stuff doesn't happen in the USA you have no idea what is going on in America today.
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cdub21 wrote:so its wall streets fault that people are racist, sexist, etc? that dudes dumb
:lol: youre destined to succeed
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whats it have to do with the 1%? i guarantee no cop is in that lmao. he said its wall streets fault that people dont have the same opportunity as he did because of race, gender, etc.... uhhh again how is it the bankers faults? i'm in the bottom 1% right now but its not wall streets fault
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cdub21 wrote:whats it have to do with the 1%? i guarantee no cop is in that lmao. he said its wall streets fault that people dont have the same opportunity as he did because of race, gender, etc.... uhhh again how is it the bankers faults? i'm in the bottom 1% right now but its not wall streets fault
You really don't get it do you? It's against the 1% that basically run this country with their money. It's not specifically Wall Street but Wall Street is their modus operandi. It's no longer Occupy Wall Street, it's Occupy Boston, Occupy San Francisco, it's a movement to end the widening gap that is growing expoenitially in the last 30 years. It's a movement for equal rights, it's a movement for social justice, it's a movement for healthcare, it's a movement to end corporate welfare and end tax loopholes. Why do you think everyone is complaining there is no solid message? It's because there is so many things that need to be fixed in this country to get it back on it's feet again.
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cdub21 wrote:whats it have to do with the 1%? i guarantee no cop is in that lmao. he said its wall streets fault that people dont have the same opportunity as he did because of race, gender, etc.... uhhh again how is it the bankers faults? i'm in the bottom 1% right now but its not wall streets fault

You're not even close to the bottom 1%. Trust me. You have a place to live, you have a computer, and you have HBO.
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jsence2 wrote:
cdub21 wrote:whats it have to do with the 1%? i guarantee no cop is in that lmao. he said its wall streets fault that people dont have the same opportunity as he did because of race, gender, etc.... uhhh again how is it the bankers faults? i'm in the bottom 1% right now but its not wall streets fault

You're not even close to the bottom 1%. Trust me. You have a place to live, you have a computer, and you have HBO.
Beat me to it. He posted this on the internet... and it's a ps3 league. Not even close
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Seeitsaveit13 wrote:
jsence2 wrote:
cdub21 wrote:whats it have to do with the 1%? i guarantee no cop is in that lmao. he said its wall streets fault that people dont have the same opportunity as he did because of race, gender, etc.... uhhh again how is it the bankers faults? i'm in the bottom 1% right now but its not wall streets fault

You're not even close to the bottom 1%. Trust me. You have a place to live, you have a computer, and you have HBO.
Beat me to it. He posted this on the internet... and it's a ps3 league. Not even close
lol nice. income wise tho ;)
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Shiftdnb wrote:
cdub21 wrote:whats it have to do with the 1%? i guarantee no cop is in that lmao. he said its wall streets fault that people dont have the same opportunity as he did because of race, gender, etc.... uhhh again how is it the bankers faults? i'm in the bottom 1% right now but its not wall streets fault
You really don't get it do you? It's against the 1% that basically run this country with their money. It's not specifically Wall Street but Wall Street is their modus operandi. It's no longer Occupy Wall Street, it's Occupy Boston, Occupy San Francisco, it's a movement to end the widening gap that is growing expoenitially in the last 30 years. It's a movement for equal rights, it's a movement for social justice, it's a movement for healthcare, it's a movement to end corporate welfare and end tax loopholes. Why do you think everyone is complaining there is no solid message? It's because there is so many things that need to be fixed in this country to get it back on it's feet again.
First part, I don't agree with. Bolded part, I do. I don't give a fuck if the super-rich horde their money and spend all day trying to convince politicians to do what they want. I would do the same. However, if I can get dinged for writing too much off on my taxes, I expect them to be as well.

I am against anti-discrimination laws in private practice, against certain health codes in private business, and all sorts of laissez faire ideals. I am generally pro-money ... go make it, have fun. However, I am also pro-United States Justice System and that is the only place I expect - nay, DEMAND - equality. Here is your rope, go hang yourself.
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why don't you save space and just say its a movement for socialism?
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Basically, its walls streets fault because ........ well he doesnt know why, but he is sure its wall street's fault.

It really incomprehensible that people who are responsible for the well being of thousands of their workers have more say in shaping legislation than unemployed students. It should be the other way around. We should let those who have never had jobs, goals, or ambitions (but they took Econ 101) dictate how our government is run. CEOs that are responsible for guiding their companies against fierce competition world wide, should have no say, because they dont have any idea what is best for their employees. Its not like they are the brightest minds. Everyone knows that these CEOs are in their fields because the CEO Fairy blessed them at birth.

Edit: In case AJ is reading... I looked up Incomprehensible because I originally spelled it uncomprehensable. Your in my head... :lol:
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