Next season, which hopefully is another sticking point for Barkley to stay.Uuaww wrote:they off probation?packsyD22 wrote:Lets just end the debate right now because USC would beat all of um right now anyway.
On a serious note if Matt Barkley somehow magically stays next season, man o man the Trojans are going to be unreal good.
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That's because pollsters are generally stupid and look at records the previous season (see Miss State last year), and think, oh this a good team! No this is a team that scheduled creatively and wins because of it.BFiVL wrote:Uuaww wrote:So you consider 6-6 teams with wins over Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Kentucky, UAB, Florida Atlantic and Furham as a marquee win. Got it.BFiVL wrote:
I dsagree with that, Bama beat florida on the road when they were ranked 12, hurt their #1 and 2 qb in the process, then they fell to pieces. Its easy to say now Florida sucks and all that, but who is not to say that Alabama game is the reason they just fell to shit. its all subjective in the end. When votes happen, they happen right then and there for the polls, so when Bama beat Florida, the pollsters gave them credit for winning a top 15 game on the road.
At the time, when they were 4-0 and ranked 12, yes. I am also willing to bet, at that time the pollsters did as well. if they fall to hell after its all said and done, Bama cant control that.
Luckily, SOS is figured into what the teams records are now, not what they were when they played so the whole point is mute.
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Already?packsyD22 wrote:Next season, which hopefully is another sticking point for Barkley to stay.Uuaww wrote:they off probation?packsyD22 wrote:Lets just end the debate right now because USC would beat all of um right now anyway.
On a serious note if Matt Barkley somehow magically stays next season, man o man the Trojans are going to be unreal good.
Damn that was fast.
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God I hope he leaves...packsyD22 wrote:Next season, which hopefully is another sticking point for Barkley to stay.Uuaww wrote:they off probation?packsyD22 wrote:Lets just end the debate right now because USC would beat all of um right now anyway.
On a serious note if Matt Barkley somehow magically stays next season, man o man the Trojans are going to be unreal good.
We now have 3 Cal fans in the NDL
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The "beat ranked" teams debate is always a fun one.
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If we are going by that logic then OkSt would actually have 6 top 25 wins,BFiVL wrote:brwnbear wrote:What poll are you looking at that has Florida and AU in the top 25? I think voters are going to look at the entire year's body of work and 3 of those top 25 wins are going to dissapear leaving Bama with just 1 (PSU will drop out after losing 4 in a row) win against top 25 opponents vs. OKST (Baylor, Oklahoma, Kansas, and probably Texas, and maybe Missouri).BFiVL wrote: Bama has beat 4 top 25 teams, not 3. PSU,Ark,Florida,and AU. 3 of those 4 wins were on the road vs 2 of those potential 4 wins for Okie St at home.
So Okie St with Identical 1-loss Records is gonna hop 3 teams? Not gonna happen. they are behind in the human polls and its very unlikely they jump Va Tech,Standford and Bama in the human polls.
Like most voters in the NDL, they dont really pay that much attention to rankings until the last vote and there is going to be some serious consideration for moving OK St ahead of Bama.
Florida was 12 at the time Bama beat them. AU was 24th in the BCS
A&M - Where in the top 25 when they played, not OkSt's fault they actually suck
Texas - Currently in the BCS top 25, ranked at the time
Missouri - Currently in the BCS top 25, not OKSt fault that the voters didnt recognize Missouri was a top 25 team when they played.
Baylor
Kansas State
Oklahoma
thats 6 top 25 teams vs. Alabama's 4. I think the voters could move OkSt above Bama.
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Oh and just to be clear, I think that Bama is the second best team, but OKSt clearly has a better resume.
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Love debating what ifs. Let's see if okie st can beat Oklahoma first. I feel you have to look at what's happening when they play and then can look again at the end of the year. We do the same at the ndl
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I hate the fact that Alabama and Louisiana State are going to play again. Hate it. I hate it even more that Alabama has the easier path than the Tigers. However, I do take umbrage to the simps (here and elsewhere) that are talking about the first game being "shitty" or "boring." My ass. That game was gripping. There were some great plays (like the super athletic interception on the goal line) and some "fun" special teams.
I will still enjoy watching Houston v. Michigan more. Or any of the other BCS bowls. Hell, I'll probably be more excited about the Capital One, Holiday, and Gator Bowls but to say that the first UA/LSU game was boring is just a joke.
I will still enjoy watching Houston v. Michigan more. Or any of the other BCS bowls. Hell, I'll probably be more excited about the Capital One, Holiday, and Gator Bowls but to say that the first UA/LSU game was boring is just a joke.
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I'm hoping that he does something stupid and gets USC in deeper shit then what they are already in.Uuaww wrote:God I hope he leaves...packsyD22 wrote:Next season, which hopefully is another sticking point for Barkley to stay.Uuaww wrote:they off probation?packsyD22 wrote:Lets just end the debate right now because USC would beat all of um right now anyway.
On a serious note if Matt Barkley somehow magically stays next season, man o man the Trojans are going to be unreal good.
We now have 3 Cal fans in the NDL
It's scary that SC doesn't have rebuilding years. They have great years, and then they have probation years.
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From CFN. Do you agree or disagree?
to buckle up.
FIRE OR RETAIN? VULNERABLE COACHES AT THE END OF 2011
RICK NEUHEISEL, UCLA – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
Four years at a brand-name program in Los Angeles represents a reasonable amount of time in which to (begin to) make a mark. Neuheisel won the Cotton Bowl at Colorado and the Rose Bowl at Washington, so he brought a considerable amount of credentials to Westwood. A man with his curriculum vitae should be expected to make progress in four seasons. After the embarrassing ways in which his program got rag-dolled in 2011 – against Arizona and USC in particular – there’s nothing for Neuheisel to hang his hat on. The gap between USC and UCLA is roughly as substantial as it was in 2008. If it’s smaller, it’s only because USC was tagged with NCAA sanctions, not because UCLA has improved (it hasn’t). Seeing USC hand out a 50-0 beatdown on Saturday night should certainly make Neuheisel’s game at Oregon on Friday his last as UCLA’s coach, barring the NCAA’s granting (and UCLA’s acceptance) of a bowl-game waiver with a 6-7 record.
DEREK DOOLEY, TENNESSEE – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
Dooley is one of those coaches whose two years have been so rocky that a vocal crowd is already of a mind to demand an ouster. Losing to Kentucky for the first time in 27 games (a span of almost 10,000 days) to miss out on a bowl will do that at a program with Tennessee’s stature and history. However, there’s a very simple reality at work in Dooley’s tenure: It exists in large part because it was the result of Lane Kiffin’s abrupt departure from Knoxville. Dooley was asked not just to win, but to clean up the program and absorb what everyone knew would be some hard hits in his first two years on the job. Has Dooley performed well? Certainly not. However, this was a reclamation project in December of 2009, a job that more established coaches wanted no part of. Dooley should certainly get a third season, but his 2011 body of work should rightfully make 2012 a hot-seat season for Vince’s son.
TURNER GILL, KANSAS – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
Gill is another two-year coach under considerable fire. There’s little question that the man who was such a hot commodity after his miracle-working at the University of Buffalo is now a diminished figure as a coach. Kansas’s failures on the gridiron have been spectacular, prolonged and profound in Gill’s two seasons. However, this is yet another situation – like Dooley (above) and like Mike Shula at Alabama in which a coach was asked to restore a program’s off-field health as well as its on-field performance. Mark Mangino did a lot more than Gill on the field, but he didn’t handle his players with care. If there’s a healthy sense of priorities in Lawrence, Gill should get a third season to fully reveal whether he can turn the ship around or not. That would be the fair thing to do in the Sunflower State.
PAUL WULFF, WASHINGTON STATE (already fired) – VERDICT: SHOULD HAVE BEEN RETAINED
In 2011 at one of the loneliest outposts in college sports (not just college football), Wulff began to make real progress. Washington State won four games and came within a whisker of winning others. Yes, the legacy of “Couging It” continued in Pullman, but this time, Wazzu made its foes earn victories thanks to an offense that finally functioned at a reasonably high level… with second-string and third-string quarterbacks carrying the load. Jeff Tuel, the team’s No. 1 starter, got injured early in the season, which makes Wulff’s work with Marshall Lobbestael and Connor Halliday that much more impressive. It’s true that Wullf has been on the job for four years, but it’s also true that he’s built something far better than what he inherited from Bill Doba. Firing Wulff was unfair… even if it might lead to the hiring of Mike Leach. Let’s be clear on that point. Making a good hire doesn’t mean that the firing which preceded it is inherently or automatically appropriate.
DENNIS ERICKSON, ARIZONA STATE (about to be fired) – VERDICT: FIRE HIM.
Arizona State sits in a resource-rich recruiting area and has above-average facilities. The Sun Devils were supposed to be transformed when Erickson, a highly-credentialed coach, came to the Valley of the Sun in 2007. His utter inability to change ASU’s track record of disappointment in five whole seasons merits a pink slip, case closed.
FRANK SPAZIANI, BOSTON COLLEGE – VERDICT: DON’T FIRE HIM… GIVE HIM HIS OLD JOB BACK
It’s true that Spaziani is the Eagles’ coach only because Boston College Athletic Director Gene DiFilippo called Jeff Jagodzinski’s bluff in 2008. For that reason, one could make a strong argument that Spaziani – thrust into head-coaching power instead of arriving at it in a more conventional way – should be given a little more leeway in the form of a fourth season in Chestnut Hill. Moreover, Boston College – despite a meager offense – kept playing hard through the end of the regular season… hard enough to win three ACC games. Spaziani is a man who is respected by his players. Yet, B.C.’s offense isn’t likely to become formidable as long as “Spaz” remains the head coach. DeFilippo acted boldly and outside the box when he fired Jagodzinski. The head of the Eagles’ athletic department should now ask Spaziani to accept his old post of defensive coordinator and thereby keep him employed… in a position he knows how to handle. Finding an offense-first head coach would then give Boston College a chance to become relevant again in the ACC.
MIKE SHERMAN, TEXAS A&M – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
Texas A&M hasn’t won so much as a division title in four years under Sherman despite ample talent. Sherman’s teams regularly fall short in big games, and this past season’s five losses, A&M was outscored 83-0 in the third quarter. Moreover, it’s not as though Sherman put his players in position to win. His two fourth-and-one punts against Arkansas – on a day when his team was averaging north of seven yards per carry at the time – represented fireable offenses in themselves. His utter timidity on fourth and short all season long proved that Sherman is not ready or able to lead his program into the Southeastern Conference. The Aggies clearly need a newer, better, bolder leader as they head into America’s most cutthroat conference.
RON ZOOK, ILLINOIS – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
Zook has been on the job since 2005, and so with seven seasons under his belt, Steve Spurrier’s former successor at Florida has now shown that he’s just not able to generate consistent quality as a head coach. The 2007 Rose Bowl season is clearly an aberration – nobody can dispute that claim at this point. Losing six games in a row in 2011 – against a slate that screamed for at least nine wins if not 10 – should make a coaching change a foregone conclusion in Champaign.
LUKE FICKELL, OHIO STATE – VERDICT: SPECIAL SITUATION
The MMQ brings up Fickell only to make (and illustrate) a key point: Fickell was an interim coach placed into an impossible situation. The way his 2011 season is judged should not follow normal metrics or guidelines. Fickell was unprepared for this job, and he shouldn’t have been expected to be prepared for it, either. Fickell’s career shouldn’t suffer based on what he endured over the past six months.
LARRY PORTER, MEMPHIS – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
Yes, Memphis has been bad on a scale rivaled only by New Mexico, Akron, and a few other bottom-feeders over the past two seasons, but in November, I saw Memphis spill the tank against Marshall (bowl-bound, almost-won-Conference-USA-East Marshall…) and get jobbed on a non-pass interference call in the final minute of a 23-22 loss. This team is still playing hard for Porter, and at a program which puts all its eggs in the basket of basketball, a third season should be granted to him. Perhaps he shouldn’t have been hired in the first place, but ADs have to live with their decisions for three years unless the circumstances demand a quick trigger (and those circumstances need to be REALLY severe in order to merit a firing after only two years).
GEORGE O’LEARY, CENTRAL FLORIDA – VERDICT: SPECIAL SITUATION
If Butch Davis got pushed out at North Carolina for what went down at his program, O’Leary should have been pushed out for what happened regarding former UCF receiver Erick Plancher, who died while training under the watch of UCF’s football program, a program O’Leary is responsible for. This reality should not be forgotten. O’Leary does not deserve to run a football program anymore.
MIKE PRICE, UTEP – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
Price continues to produce one numbingly mediocre season after another in El Paso. He’s been on the job for eight seasons. He just missed a bowl and shows no signs of keeping pace with Houston, SMU and Tulsa in C-USA West. It’s time for a hungry up-and-comer to receive the keys to the Sun Bowl. Price should head into the sunset. He’s had his time in the spotlight, and who knows how different the life of Alabama football would have been if he didn’t have that fateful lap dance in Pensacola, Florida.
JOKER PHILLIPS, KENTUCKY – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
Is there enough evidence to demand a firing after two seasons in this case? Not if you watched Kentucky break its 26-game losing streak to Tennessee despite an utter absence of playmaking capability. Case closed.
PAT HILL, FRESNO STATE – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
Would you believe it if the MMQ told you that Hill has NEVER won an outright WAC championship in 15 seasons on the job in the Valley? Would you believe it if the MMQ told you that Hill, for all his out-of-conference conquests and his entirely admirable willingness to play anywhere in the nation, has won only one split WAC title in 15 years (1999, alongside Hawaii and TCU in an even three-wa
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FIRE OR RETAIN? VULNERABLE COACHES AT THE END OF 2011
RICK NEUHEISEL, UCLA – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
Four years at a brand-name program in Los Angeles represents a reasonable amount of time in which to (begin to) make a mark. Neuheisel won the Cotton Bowl at Colorado and the Rose Bowl at Washington, so he brought a considerable amount of credentials to Westwood. A man with his curriculum vitae should be expected to make progress in four seasons. After the embarrassing ways in which his program got rag-dolled in 2011 – against Arizona and USC in particular – there’s nothing for Neuheisel to hang his hat on. The gap between USC and UCLA is roughly as substantial as it was in 2008. If it’s smaller, it’s only because USC was tagged with NCAA sanctions, not because UCLA has improved (it hasn’t). Seeing USC hand out a 50-0 beatdown on Saturday night should certainly make Neuheisel’s game at Oregon on Friday his last as UCLA’s coach, barring the NCAA’s granting (and UCLA’s acceptance) of a bowl-game waiver with a 6-7 record.
DEREK DOOLEY, TENNESSEE – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
Dooley is one of those coaches whose two years have been so rocky that a vocal crowd is already of a mind to demand an ouster. Losing to Kentucky for the first time in 27 games (a span of almost 10,000 days) to miss out on a bowl will do that at a program with Tennessee’s stature and history. However, there’s a very simple reality at work in Dooley’s tenure: It exists in large part because it was the result of Lane Kiffin’s abrupt departure from Knoxville. Dooley was asked not just to win, but to clean up the program and absorb what everyone knew would be some hard hits in his first two years on the job. Has Dooley performed well? Certainly not. However, this was a reclamation project in December of 2009, a job that more established coaches wanted no part of. Dooley should certainly get a third season, but his 2011 body of work should rightfully make 2012 a hot-seat season for Vince’s son.
TURNER GILL, KANSAS – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
Gill is another two-year coach under considerable fire. There’s little question that the man who was such a hot commodity after his miracle-working at the University of Buffalo is now a diminished figure as a coach. Kansas’s failures on the gridiron have been spectacular, prolonged and profound in Gill’s two seasons. However, this is yet another situation – like Dooley (above) and like Mike Shula at Alabama in which a coach was asked to restore a program’s off-field health as well as its on-field performance. Mark Mangino did a lot more than Gill on the field, but he didn’t handle his players with care. If there’s a healthy sense of priorities in Lawrence, Gill should get a third season to fully reveal whether he can turn the ship around or not. That would be the fair thing to do in the Sunflower State.
PAUL WULFF, WASHINGTON STATE (already fired) – VERDICT: SHOULD HAVE BEEN RETAINED
In 2011 at one of the loneliest outposts in college sports (not just college football), Wulff began to make real progress. Washington State won four games and came within a whisker of winning others. Yes, the legacy of “Couging It” continued in Pullman, but this time, Wazzu made its foes earn victories thanks to an offense that finally functioned at a reasonably high level… with second-string and third-string quarterbacks carrying the load. Jeff Tuel, the team’s No. 1 starter, got injured early in the season, which makes Wulff’s work with Marshall Lobbestael and Connor Halliday that much more impressive. It’s true that Wullf has been on the job for four years, but it’s also true that he’s built something far better than what he inherited from Bill Doba. Firing Wulff was unfair… even if it might lead to the hiring of Mike Leach. Let’s be clear on that point. Making a good hire doesn’t mean that the firing which preceded it is inherently or automatically appropriate.
DENNIS ERICKSON, ARIZONA STATE (about to be fired) – VERDICT: FIRE HIM.
Arizona State sits in a resource-rich recruiting area and has above-average facilities. The Sun Devils were supposed to be transformed when Erickson, a highly-credentialed coach, came to the Valley of the Sun in 2007. His utter inability to change ASU’s track record of disappointment in five whole seasons merits a pink slip, case closed.
FRANK SPAZIANI, BOSTON COLLEGE – VERDICT: DON’T FIRE HIM… GIVE HIM HIS OLD JOB BACK
It’s true that Spaziani is the Eagles’ coach only because Boston College Athletic Director Gene DiFilippo called Jeff Jagodzinski’s bluff in 2008. For that reason, one could make a strong argument that Spaziani – thrust into head-coaching power instead of arriving at it in a more conventional way – should be given a little more leeway in the form of a fourth season in Chestnut Hill. Moreover, Boston College – despite a meager offense – kept playing hard through the end of the regular season… hard enough to win three ACC games. Spaziani is a man who is respected by his players. Yet, B.C.’s offense isn’t likely to become formidable as long as “Spaz” remains the head coach. DeFilippo acted boldly and outside the box when he fired Jagodzinski. The head of the Eagles’ athletic department should now ask Spaziani to accept his old post of defensive coordinator and thereby keep him employed… in a position he knows how to handle. Finding an offense-first head coach would then give Boston College a chance to become relevant again in the ACC.
MIKE SHERMAN, TEXAS A&M – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
Texas A&M hasn’t won so much as a division title in four years under Sherman despite ample talent. Sherman’s teams regularly fall short in big games, and this past season’s five losses, A&M was outscored 83-0 in the third quarter. Moreover, it’s not as though Sherman put his players in position to win. His two fourth-and-one punts against Arkansas – on a day when his team was averaging north of seven yards per carry at the time – represented fireable offenses in themselves. His utter timidity on fourth and short all season long proved that Sherman is not ready or able to lead his program into the Southeastern Conference. The Aggies clearly need a newer, better, bolder leader as they head into America’s most cutthroat conference.
RON ZOOK, ILLINOIS – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
Zook has been on the job since 2005, and so with seven seasons under his belt, Steve Spurrier’s former successor at Florida has now shown that he’s just not able to generate consistent quality as a head coach. The 2007 Rose Bowl season is clearly an aberration – nobody can dispute that claim at this point. Losing six games in a row in 2011 – against a slate that screamed for at least nine wins if not 10 – should make a coaching change a foregone conclusion in Champaign.
LUKE FICKELL, OHIO STATE – VERDICT: SPECIAL SITUATION
The MMQ brings up Fickell only to make (and illustrate) a key point: Fickell was an interim coach placed into an impossible situation. The way his 2011 season is judged should not follow normal metrics or guidelines. Fickell was unprepared for this job, and he shouldn’t have been expected to be prepared for it, either. Fickell’s career shouldn’t suffer based on what he endured over the past six months.
LARRY PORTER, MEMPHIS – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
Yes, Memphis has been bad on a scale rivaled only by New Mexico, Akron, and a few other bottom-feeders over the past two seasons, but in November, I saw Memphis spill the tank against Marshall (bowl-bound, almost-won-Conference-USA-East Marshall…) and get jobbed on a non-pass interference call in the final minute of a 23-22 loss. This team is still playing hard for Porter, and at a program which puts all its eggs in the basket of basketball, a third season should be granted to him. Perhaps he shouldn’t have been hired in the first place, but ADs have to live with their decisions for three years unless the circumstances demand a quick trigger (and those circumstances need to be REALLY severe in order to merit a firing after only two years).
GEORGE O’LEARY, CENTRAL FLORIDA – VERDICT: SPECIAL SITUATION
If Butch Davis got pushed out at North Carolina for what went down at his program, O’Leary should have been pushed out for what happened regarding former UCF receiver Erick Plancher, who died while training under the watch of UCF’s football program, a program O’Leary is responsible for. This reality should not be forgotten. O’Leary does not deserve to run a football program anymore.
MIKE PRICE, UTEP – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
Price continues to produce one numbingly mediocre season after another in El Paso. He’s been on the job for eight seasons. He just missed a bowl and shows no signs of keeping pace with Houston, SMU and Tulsa in C-USA West. It’s time for a hungry up-and-comer to receive the keys to the Sun Bowl. Price should head into the sunset. He’s had his time in the spotlight, and who knows how different the life of Alabama football would have been if he didn’t have that fateful lap dance in Pensacola, Florida.
JOKER PHILLIPS, KENTUCKY – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
Is there enough evidence to demand a firing after two seasons in this case? Not if you watched Kentucky break its 26-game losing streak to Tennessee despite an utter absence of playmaking capability. Case closed.
PAT HILL, FRESNO STATE – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
Would you believe it if the MMQ told you that Hill has NEVER won an outright WAC championship in 15 seasons on the job in the Valley? Would you believe it if the MMQ told you that Hill, for all his out-of-conference conquests and his entirely admirable willingness to play anywhere in the nation, has won only one split WAC title in 15 years (1999, alongside Hawaii and TCU in an even three-wa
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Oh, and I just caught the whole story with Petrino and I have to laugh at that limpdick.
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FIRE OR RETAIN? VULNERABLE COACHES AT THE END OF 2011
RICK NEUHEISEL, UCLA – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
-if he wins the pac 12, keep him
DEREK DOOLEY, TENNESSEE – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
- no opinion
TURNER GILL, KANSAS – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
-fire him, this was the worst defense in ncaa history it seems
PAUL WULFF, WASHINGTON STATE (already fired) – VERDICT: SHOULD HAVE BEEN RETAINED
-huge mistake, should have staked
DENNIS ERICKSON, ARIZONA STATE (about to be fired) – VERDICT: FIRE HIM.
-his team quits on him, no shocker here
FRANK SPAZIANI, BOSTON COLLEGE – VERDICT: DON’T FIRE HIM… GIVE HIM HIS OLD JOB BACK
-no opinion
MIKE SHERMAN, TEXAS A&M – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
-he's never gonna win the SEC so might as well keep him
RON ZOOK, ILLINOIS – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
-how is he not fired already?
LUKE FICKELL, OHIO STATE – VERDICT: SPECIAL SITUATION
LARRY PORTER, MEMPHIS – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
-no opinion
GEORGE O’LEARY, CENTRAL FLORIDA – VERDICT: SPECIAL SITUATION
-based on the article, fire him
MIKE PRICE, UTEP – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
-agreed
JOKER PHILLIPS, KENTUCKY – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
-no opinion
PAT HILL, FRESNO STATE – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
-shouldn't fire him, they need him in the Mountain West. His team sucking is because he hasn't been able to steal as many recruits from UCLA/Cal after they got decent
RICK NEUHEISEL, UCLA – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
-if he wins the pac 12, keep him
DEREK DOOLEY, TENNESSEE – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
- no opinion
TURNER GILL, KANSAS – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
-fire him, this was the worst defense in ncaa history it seems
PAUL WULFF, WASHINGTON STATE (already fired) – VERDICT: SHOULD HAVE BEEN RETAINED
-huge mistake, should have staked
DENNIS ERICKSON, ARIZONA STATE (about to be fired) – VERDICT: FIRE HIM.
-his team quits on him, no shocker here
FRANK SPAZIANI, BOSTON COLLEGE – VERDICT: DON’T FIRE HIM… GIVE HIM HIS OLD JOB BACK
-no opinion
MIKE SHERMAN, TEXAS A&M – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
-he's never gonna win the SEC so might as well keep him
RON ZOOK, ILLINOIS – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
-how is he not fired already?
LUKE FICKELL, OHIO STATE – VERDICT: SPECIAL SITUATION
LARRY PORTER, MEMPHIS – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
-no opinion
GEORGE O’LEARY, CENTRAL FLORIDA – VERDICT: SPECIAL SITUATION
-based on the article, fire him
MIKE PRICE, UTEP – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
-agreed
JOKER PHILLIPS, KENTUCKY – VERDICT: RETAIN HIM
-no opinion
PAT HILL, FRESNO STATE – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
-shouldn't fire him, they need him in the Mountain West. His team sucking is because he hasn't been able to steal as many recruits from UCLA/Cal after they got decent
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Agreed.Uuaww wrote: PAT HILL, FRESNO STATE – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
-shouldn't fire him, they need him in the Mountain West. His team sucking is because he hasn't been able to steal as many recruits from UCLA/Cal after they got decent
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Did he ever say why he was mad?trendon wrote:Oh, and I just caught the whole story with Petrino and I have to laugh at that limpdick.
I'm still at a loss on that.
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I am guessing.shel311 wrote:Did he ever say why he was mad?trendon wrote:Oh, and I just caught the whole story with Petrino and I have to laugh at that limpdick.
I'm still at a loss on that.
He didn't like the field goal. Whaaaa. You know my growing distaste of coaches; add "baby" and "hypocrite" to my list of complaints. They train their players to be tough and to handle adversity and then they freak out when a team kicks a field goal when up by 24 or so.
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You must hate violent hard hitting football because that is the only game you will see it outside of the pros.trendon wrote:I hate the fact that Alabama and Louisiana State are going to play again. Hate it. I hate it even more that Alabama has the easier path than the Tigers. However, I do take umbrage to the simps (here and elsewhere) that are talking about the first game being "shitty" or "boring." My ass. That game was gripping. There were some great plays (like the super athletic interception on the goal line) and some "fun" special teams.
I will still enjoy watching Houston v. Michigan more. Or any of the other BCS bowls. Hell, I'll probably be more excited about the Capital One, Holiday, and Gator Bowls but to say that the first UA/LSU game was boring is just a joke.
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Okie St lost to a shitty Iowa St team. Alabama lost to the #1 team in the nation in overtime. Alabama would have won any other conference this year from the Pac 10 to the Big East. I'm ready for the rematch.
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Was actually fired this morning.Uuaww wrote: RON ZOOK, ILLINOIS – VERDICT: FIRE HIM
-how is he not fired already?
IM: brwnbear26
Re: Week 13 College Football
I just don't want to see a fucking team that lost their game get another chance to play that same team for the title ... AND HAVE THE EASIER PATH THAN THE TEAM THEY LOST TO. It is an unparalleled level of retarded and there is no argument to be had and makes me - one of the few non-playoff holdouts - throw my hands up.beercop wrote:You must hate violent hard hitting football because that is the only game you will see it outside of the pros.trendon wrote:I hate the fact that Alabama and Louisiana State are going to play again. Hate it. I hate it even more that Alabama has the easier path than the Tigers. However, I do take umbrage to the simps (here and elsewhere) that are talking about the first game being "shitty" or "boring." My ass. That game was gripping. There were some great plays (like the super athletic interception on the goal line) and some "fun" special teams.
I will still enjoy watching Houston v. Michigan more. Or any of the other BCS bowls. Hell, I'll probably be more excited about the Capital One, Holiday, and Gator Bowls but to say that the first UA/LSU game was boring is just a joke.