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[GeorgesGoons]

To go back to the roots of this thread, Corey's post about his dryer.

I am looking for a new coffee maker. My buddy has a Ninja coffee maker and it makes a pretty damn good cup of coffee. Anyone else have any suggestions on which coffee maker to check out.

[ReignOnU]

I thought everyone just used Keurig's.

Speaking of coffee (crap), I'm replacing 2 toilets in my house. I took care of the first one last night and should be able to knock out the 2nd one tonight or tomorrow morning. Both are on the 2nd floor. When I pulled the first one, I noticed that there was a lot of space between the flange and vinyl. The subfloor was broken up quite a bit. Pretty certain this is going to require subfloor replacement before we sell/rent. I'm fully expecting that the other replacement is going to be worse.

Has anyone done this work themselves before? Is there a way to seal the area between the flange and subfloor to help prevent any potential leaks?

[The_Niddler]

I thought everyone just used Keurig's.

Speaking of coffee (crap), I'm replacing 2 toilets in my house. I took care of the first one last night and should be able to knock out the 2nd one tonight or tomorrow morning. Both are on the 2nd floor. When I pulled the first one, I noticed that there was a lot of space between the flange and vinyl. The subfloor was broken up quite a bit. Pretty certain this is going to require subfloor replacement before we sell/rent. I'm fully expecting that the other replacement is going to be worse.

Has anyone done this work themselves before? Is there a way to seal the area between the flange and subfloor to help prevent any potential leaks?

First off, I bought the toilet that can flush a dozen golf balls, years ago, will never own another toilet.
Never used a plunger since.
We have 2 of them in our current house.

Now, as far as your issue with the flange and the subfloor, what do you mean there is a lot of space between the flange and the subfloor?
I ask because your toilet flange should be flush or ideally, 1/4 inch above your finished floor. Has nothing to do with the subfloor.
If the plumbing toilet flange is flush or slightly above the finished floor, then your wax ring or silicone ring, etc. Should seal properly and all waste should travel down the plumbing with no issues with leakage.

And yes, I have done 4 toilets myself.
2 in my current house, 1 in each of my last 2 houses.

[Cnasty]

To go back to the roots of this thread, Corey's post about his dryer.

I am looking for a new coffee maker. My buddy has a Ninja coffee maker and it makes a pretty damn good cup of coffee. Anyone else have any suggestions on which coffee maker to check out.

I'm an iced coffee only guy and bought 2 amazing steepers that do their work overnight. A little heavy cream and maple syrup in the morning and a shot of espresso from my Nespresso machine and mmmmmmmmmm!

[Weasel]

Coffee is for amateurs

[nick]

Energy drinks in my IV

[The_Niddler]

Diet Mt. Dew for me. No coffee or energy drinks.
For my office now, my previous job, home, parents home, etc. etc. everyone uses a Keurig now.
It is nice because then everyone can get whatever flavor of coffee they want.

[nick]

rockstar fruit punch
monster sugar free orange
coffee

[GeorgesGoons]

I NEED my coffee in the morning. Even when we were in the field I'd wake up 45 minutes before everyone else so I could shave and start my coffee. I needed it before dealing with 30 different personalities in the morning, it kept me from going postal on people. And I still enjoy my morning coffee. I don't mind iced coffee but there is no way in hell I am waiting a long ass time to have it.

[ReignOnU]

Rockstar Recovery Orange or Lemonade and Diet Dew are my caffeine sources.

[ReignOnU]

First off, I bought the toilet that can flush a dozen golf balls, years ago, will never own another toilet.
Never used a plunger since.
We have 2 of them in our current house.

Now, as far as your issue with the flange and the subfloor, what do you mean there is a lot of space between the flange and the subfloor?
I ask because your toilet flange should be flush or ideally, 1/4 inch above your finished floor. Has nothing to do with the subfloor.
If the plumbing toilet flange is flush or slightly above the finished floor, then your wax ring or silicone ring, etc. Should seal properly and all waste should travel down the plumbing with no issues with leakage.

And yes, I have done 4 toilets myself.
2 in my current house, 1 in each of my last 2 houses.

2nd story toilets, sheet vinyl flooring in both. Flange height is fine. The issue is the about a 1" area around the flange has water damage, enough to deteriorate the subfloor. So I think what I'm asking is if there is some kind of seal that would go under the flange and over the subfloor, to keep any potential leak on the subfloor itself, where it's treated for water resistance/mold resistance.

Not gonna like, trying to talk through the little that I know about this stuff... this isn't my cup of tea.

[ReignOnU]

Best image I can find that kind of shows it. So I have some rot in those gaps. I'm sure the one I pull tonight will be worse. Is there a way to protect against after I replace the subfloor?

[ReignOnU]

I picked up 2 of these, instead of #10 wax rings. My thought process is because the base goes directly over the flange, then I mount the toilet, it's going to push that wax directly down, into the flange, and in a controlled way, it should create a water tight seal between the flange and this item... which "should" prevent any future issues with a good seal.

I'm 99% sure that the rot was caused by the builder using standard wax rings and not jumbos. When I pulled the first toilet last night, the wax ring wasn't all that impressive.

[The_Niddler]

First off, I bought the toilet that can flush a dozen golf balls, years ago, will never own another toilet.
Never used a plunger since.
We have 2 of them in our current house.

Now, as far as your issue with the flange and the subfloor, what do you mean there is a lot of space between the flange and the subfloor?
I ask because your toilet flange should be flush or ideally, 1/4 inch above your finished floor. Has nothing to do with the subfloor.
If the plumbing toilet flange is flush or slightly above the finished floor, then your wax ring or silicone ring, etc. Should seal properly and all waste should travel down the plumbing with no issues with leakage.

And yes, I have done 4 toilets myself.
2 in my current house, 1 in each of my last 2 houses.

2nd story toilets, sheet vinyl flooring in both. Flange height is fine. The issue is the about a 1" area around the flange has water damage, enough to deteriorate the subfloor. So I think what I'm asking is if there is some kind of seal that would go under the flange and over the subfloor, to keep any potential leak on the subfloor itself, where it's treated for water resistance/mold resistance.

Not gonna like, trying to talk through the little that I know about this stuff... this isn't my cup of tea.

Nothing you can put to keep water off completely. If water is getting out of the flange onto the subfloor, then something is wrong with the wax ring you are using.
If the flange is above the finished floor or 1/4" above, then I would replace the wax ring with a new silicone one.

You can fill the void that you are referring to in with silicone, but again, once the water gets out of the flange, it has to and will go somewhere.
It should not be leaking out.
If you inspect the flange and there is no wobble in it or leak are the toilet bolts tight?
If not, you may want to put a nut down on top of the toilet flange bolts to hold them tight, prior to putting the toilet down.

The top 2, I have found at Lowe's, but you can buy them from Amazon too.

These ones work really good, they are a combo of a wax ring hidden in a silicone sleave as well as silicon to go up and cup against the toilet:
https://www.amazon.com/DANCO-Perfect-To ... B00KHSLV2G

I have used these too: I liked the above one better, but liked this one better than the one below.
https://www.amazon.com/Fluidmaster-7530 ... PA63Q2X64N

I have used this one from Home Depot: I like the above 2 better, but it worked.
https://www.amazon.com/Fluidmaster-7530 ... PA63Q2X64N



Here is what I mean by having the nuts holding the toilet flange bolts tight prior to putting the toilet down:


Some people do not do the above and just have their flange with the bolts sticking up through the flange, then they install the toilet, then the bolts on the toilet are the ones that hold everything in place.
I do not like this because any wobble of the toilet wobbles the flange too.
I like having the flange bolts tight as in the pic above.
Then put your wax ring or alternative in place and set your toilet down on there and then put the 2 bolts on your toilet to hold it in place.

Also, if your toilet is tightened down and still wobbles, the nuts on the toilet flange bolts are not to keep your toilet from wobbling. You can buy shims and shim your toilet so it sits nice and flat with no wobbling. Then tighten the nuts on the toilet flange bolts.

[The_Niddler]

I picked up 2 of these, instead of #10 wax rings. My thought process is because the base goes directly over the flange, then I mount the toilet, it's going to push that wax directly down, into the flange, and in a controlled way, it should create a water tight seal between the flange and this item... which "should" prevent any future issues with a good seal.

I'm 99% sure that the rot was caused by the builder using standard wax rings and not jumbos. When I pulled the first toilet last night, the wax ring wasn't all that impressive.

I was typing up my response when you responded, but the ones you bought are my first link, they are the ones I prefer.
And you are exactly right, the wax ring is to create a water tight seal from the flange up and the silicone creates a water tight seal against the bottom of the toilet.
They work way better than a standard wax ring.

[ReignOnU]

Awesome, great info! Thanks!

My new toilets (American Standard Cadet 3) came with something to lock the bolts in place on the flange. They aren't nuts, but they are this smooth round caps that you put finger tight.

Now that I type that out and think about it, I'm getting a bit nervous. If water were to get on them and they rust onto the bolt, those are going to be hell to get off. Would likely have to vise or saw them off. Hmm...

[The_Niddler]

Nothing a Dremel can't take care of.

[Cnasty]

Only NDL Ohio can discuss a shitter to such a degree.

Well done fellas.

[BFiVL]

I take a caffeine pill. 250 mg. Equal to 2.5 cups of coffee. Have maybe 3 sodas a week at most. Never been a coffee drinker.

[nick]

caffeine pills might as well be MDMA to me. took a pill once at noon and couldnt sleep til 6am.