NFL Thread

[nick]

Michael Lombardi is the GM in Cleveland so they should be fine.

Runningbacks are a dying breed in the NFL. I did some projections, this year theres gonna be 12 000 more passing yards and 8 000 less rushing yards. Giving up a eh halfback for a first to a new regime when they can spend the 2 1sts on say, QB and BPA, and then use a proper pick on a HB (2-4 range) they are fine going forward.

Browns are probably trying to tank for Bridgewater who looks to be that QB prospect this year.

Also Seattle cut ties (believe i said this before) 2 years after they drafted Aaron Curry top 5 and they are just fine going forward. NFL has a lot of parity because of non guaranteed contracts you can rebuild an entire team in 1-2 years (see: Rams)

I like the deal from the Browns stand point. Everyone assumes that its a 20th+ pick but Indianapolis struggled at home against Oakland, and then lost at home to Miami, and they were also one of a few teams in NFL history to make the playoffs with a negative turnover diff, so I dont see how theyre a lock to make it this year. the pick could be in the 10-15 range easily.

[Uuaww]

indy's next stretch in brutal...
at SF
at JAX
vs SEA
at SD
vs DEN
@ HOU


They could be 2-6...

[ReignOnU]

the FO doesn't feel that he's the answer and they managed to get a 1st that should fall between 16-24 for him

Until the next new FO is brought in and they do away with all the picks gotten by the old FO?

The difference that he makes on this team, would at most be a 6-10 season vs. a 2-14 season. The impact of his team would actually be a net negative, because it would move the team down in the draft. If you're going to lose, then freakin' lose and get it over with

This doesn't make any sense, really, IMO, or maybe I just don't understand it. Teams don't just go from 2-14, terrible, to getting 10 great players and being a perennial playoff team immediatley. You slowly build, and then 6-10 7-9 seasons are had with the idea that you are continually building your team so you get incrementally better and the 7 win season later turns into 9 or 10 win seasons.

It makes perfect sense.

You lose horribly right now... and most likely next season. You build the core with tons of young talent. Then you succeed for many years, as opposed to constantly toiling around 6-10, 7-9 and not being able to secure major difference makers or building a team that can grow together. The defense is 1-2 players from being top tier. The offense is a disaster. The QB wasn't going to make it, the RB wasn't the right fit or wasn't seen as the answer and the WRs are a joke (minus maybe Gordon who has other issues). So you nuke what you have, try to get some difference makers on O and go after it. This FO isn't settling, I'm ok with that.

[trendon]

After listening to Cowherd, I take back my initial opinion: it is a great deal for Indianapolis and a good one for Cleveland.

[ReignOnU]

Maybe I'm being the silly optimistic Browns fan... I'm not going to say I like the move, but I don't hate it. Personally, I think Richardson has the skill set to be an elite RB. But I also realize that he hasn't done it. 1yr wonder Peyton Hillis looked far more impressive in a short time span, with an incredibly bad team around him. Not saying he's better, it just makes you wonder if Richardson is missing something. Maybe there is something to the idea that he had massive holes to run through at 'Bama.

[ReignOnU]

After listening to Cowherd, I take back my initial opinion: it is a great deal for Indianapolis and a good one for Cleveland.

That is probably an accurate assessment considering the direction of each team.

[Whittness10]

im still debating banning seeit from the survivor pool for insider knowledge... he picked minnesota days ago...

I was thinking of picking them when they said Hoyer was starting

[Cnasty]

Most of us in Ohio still associate McGahee with our National Championship and his horrible knee injury

[Whittness10]

Most of us in Ohio still associate McGahee with our National Championship and his horrible knee injury

Global warming???

[DRiccio21]

Everyone defending the browns are forgetting one simple thing... its the Browns.

seeit will probably become the offensive coordinator before they have a plan in place that works

[ajalves]

Everyone defending the browns are forgetting one simple thing... its the Browns.

seeit will probably become the offensive coordinator before they have a plan in place that works

teams better start learning to defend the 5 yards crossing route ...now!!!

[trendon]

Everyone defending the browns are forgetting one simple thing... its the Browns.

seeit will probably become the offensive coordinator before they have a plan in place that works

They draft fairly well, to be honest. The Weeden thing is hurting but, remember, nearly everyone thought he was straight out of central casting; big, mature, rocket arm, deadly accurate. He is a stick in the mud but it looked like a good pick, if not slightly overreaching.

I just looked, by the way, where the fuck did all of their 2013 picks go? They had four.

[shel311]

Everyone defending the browns are forgetting one simple thing... its the Browns.

seeit will probably become the offensive coordinator before they have a plan in place that works

teams better start learning to defend the 5 yards crossing route ...now!!!

AJ is in desperate need of the Redzone Channel!

[Whittness10]

Everyone defending the browns are forgetting one simple thing... its the Browns.

seeit will probably become the offensive coordinator before they have a plan in place that works

They draft fairly well, to be honest. The Weeden thing is hurting but, remember, nearly everyone thought he was straight out of central casting; big, mature, rocket arm, deadly accurate. He is a stick in the mud but it looked like a good pick, if not slightly overreaching.

I just looked, by the way, where the fuck did all of their 2013 picks go? They had four.

Mingo is going to be the real deal. Insert some Shel praise here Barkevious!!! ...

[shel311]

Done!

[dakshdar]

Everyone defending the browns are forgetting one simple thing... its the Browns.

seeit will probably become the offensive coordinator before they have a plan in place that works

They draft fairly well, to be honest. The Weeden thing is hurting but, remember, nearly everyone thought he was straight out of central casting; big, mature, rocket arm, deadly accurate. He is a stick in the mud but it looked like a good pick, if not slightly overreaching.

I just looked, by the way, where the fuck did all of their 2013 picks go? They had four.

Shame on you for not Wiki'ing it.

2013 Cleveland draft class
Main article: 2013 NFL Draft
Round Selection Player Position College
1 6 Barkevious Mingo Defensive end LSU
3 68 Leon McFadden Cornerback San Diego State
6 175 Jamoris Slaughter Safety Notre Dame
7 217 Armonty Bryant Defensive end East Central
7 227 Garrett Gilkey Guard Chadron State

Notes

The team forfeited its second-round selection (which would have been No. 39) after selecting wide receiver Josh Gordon in the 2012 Supplemental Draft.
The team acquired a 6th round selection (No. 173) in a trade that sent safety David Sims and a 7th round selection to the Philadelphia Eagles.
The team acquired a 5th (No. 164) and 7th round selection (No. 227) in a trade that sent quarterback Colt McCoy and a 6th round selection (No. 173) to the San Francisco 49ers.
The team acquired WR Davone Bess and a 4th (No. 111) and 7th (No. 217) round selection for a fourth (No. 104) and 5th (No. 164) round selection.
The team traded its fourth-round selection (No. 111) to the Pittsburgh Steelers for a 2014 third round selection.
The team traded its fifth-round selection (No. 139) to the Indianapolis Colts for a 2014 fourth round selection.

[dakshdar]

Great article on CNN and website related to a breaking/entering house party/destruction of former NFL player's home in NY.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/19/us/new-yo ... ?hpt=hp_c2

http://www.helpmesave300.com/

Amazing that with all that happened to his house, he's more concerned with the kids that did the damage and helping/saving them. Will be interesting to see if any step forward and admit responsibility given all the Facebook and Twitter evidence.

How long do you think some of these kids are grounded for?

[ajalves]

Everyone defending the browns are forgetting one simple thing... its the Browns.

seeit will probably become the offensive coordinator before they have a plan in place that works

teams better start learning to defend the 5 yards crossing route ...now!!!

AJ is in desperate need of the Redzone Channel!

?

[shel311]

Everyone defending the browns are forgetting one simple thing... its the Browns.

seeit will probably become the offensive coordinator before they have a plan in place that works

teams better start learning to defend the 5 yards crossing route ...now!!!

AJ is in desperate need of the Redzone Channel!

?

You have too much knowledge of the Jags and Browns offense. No one should be watching the Jags and Browns play football except for the random times you see them on the Redzone Channel .

[ajalves]

Everyone defending the browns are forgetting one simple thing... its the Browns.

seeit will probably become the offensive coordinator before they have a plan in place that works

teams better start learning to defend the 5 yards crossing route ...now!!!

AJ is in desperate need of the Redzone Channel!

?

You have too much knowledge of the Jags and Browns offense. No one should be watching the Jags and Browns play football except for the random times you see them on the Redzone Channel .

It was actually a dig at if Seeit was the offensive coordinator. He'd be calling plays how he does in his NDL games....

(ps, i dont think ive ever played Seeit....it was a joke....one i needed to explain apparently)