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GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:09 pm
shel311 wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:04 pm My father in law just sent me a FB message with a pic that says if you gargle water with salt or vinegar, it eliminates Coronavirus.
I don't believe that (gargle part), but since last week the administration has done infinitely better (wasn't hard to get better from where they started) so that would put me in the 55%. I think the daily press conferences and informing the public has been a big help as well.
So defunding the CDC, closing down the pandemic relief team, and then babbling like an idiot for 2 months while we should have been preparing for all this and you now are in the 55% approval side because of the last week. Whatever happens to humans we certainly deserve it.
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GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:09 pm I think the daily press conferences and informing the public has been a big help as well.
I think its been worse honestly. They look like a bumbling group of idiots. I only listen to the doctor really at this point as he has gone rogue from Trump.

Trump needs to stop addressing scientific questions and pass that to others.

He contradicts himself every single day which makes these almost meaningless and a mixed message each time one occurs.
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wdoupis wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:21 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:09 pm
shel311 wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:04 pm My father in law just sent me a FB message with a pic that says if you gargle water with salt or vinegar, it eliminates Coronavirus.
I don't believe that (gargle part), but since last week the administration has done infinitely better (wasn't hard to get better from where they started) so that would put me in the 55%. I think the daily press conferences and informing the public has been a big help as well.
So defunding the CDC, closing down the pandemic relief team, and then babbling like an idiot for 2 months while we should have been preparing for all this and you now are in the 55% approval side because of the last week. Whatever happens to humans we certainly deserve it.
C'mon Billy, did you read what I said? I said since last week they have done infinitely better. That is all. If you don't think they have handled it much better since before last week then you are probably in the group that would be pissed if his team cured cancer. I didn't say they have this on the downward slope, just better messaging from the beginning.
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Cnasty wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:22 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:09 pm I think the daily press conferences and informing the public has been a big help as well.
I think its been worse honestly. They look like a bumbling group of idiots. I only listen to the doctor really at this point as he has gone rogue from Trump.

Trump needs to stop addressing scientific questions and pass that to others.

He contradicts himself every single day which makes these almost meaningless and a mixed message each time one occurs.
Agree, he needs to let the people behind him talk more. I didn't get to watch the press conference today, except for the last 30 minutes, and mostly it was not him talking.
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The poll was asked if they approved of how he handled the response.

Not how he has handled the response since last week.
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Cnasty wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:29 pm The poll was asked if they approved of how he handled the response.

Not how he has handled the response since last week.
You don't think people can change their mind since the messaging has been different for the last 10+ days?
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Yea, we are doomed :lol:
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Cnasty wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:36 pm Yea, we are doomed :lol:
Remember when i said George was the quintessential Trump supporter, and he asked what does that entail?

This, that entails this. :lol:
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No idea how, but the Pardon My Take guys somehow got Dr Fauci on for an interview.

I was cringing as it started, but they actually acted normal, and so far it's a fantastic interview because they're asking the types of questions we would ask from our limited knowledge of all of this. It's great stuff so far. It's the 3/18 podcast.
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GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:28 pm
wdoupis wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:21 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:09 pm
shel311 wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:04 pm My father in law just sent me a FB message with a pic that says if you gargle water with salt or vinegar, it eliminates Coronavirus.
I don't believe that (gargle part), but since last week the administration has done infinitely better (wasn't hard to get better from where they started) so that would put me in the 55%. I think the daily press conferences and informing the public has been a big help as well.
So defunding the CDC, closing down the pandemic relief team, and then babbling like an idiot for 2 months while we should have been preparing for all this and you now are in the 55% approval side because of the last week. Whatever happens to humans we certainly deserve it.
C'mon Billy, did you read what I said? I said since last week they have done infinitely better. That is all. If you don't think they have handled it much better since before last week then you are probably in the group that would be pissed if his team cured cancer. I didn't say they have this on the downward slope, just better messaging from the beginning.
Did you read what the poll said? If someone handles something as poorly as you possibly can for a long period of time and then waaaaay too late finally starts to act then they handled the response terribly.
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Fauci has been a rockstar in all of this and the only person with any reputable, honest feedback during this versus the political overstatements from this White House.

It took a virus like this to really show the operational shortcomings of Trump and his lack of knowing what the hell he is doing. Been rough to watch as his riled up statements and fiery rallies to his supporters cant heal science and data which is exposing him big time.
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I'm just afraid that:

1. His base is so blind in their love of Trump, nothing he does matters

2. Even if we get our wish and he doesn't win 2020, I don't have much in hope in whoever beats him
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death rate keeps raising.. 4.22% :| worldwide.
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shel311 wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:56 pm I'm just afraid that:

1. His base is so blind in their love of Trump, nothing he does matters

2. Even if we get our wish and he doesn't win 2020, I don't have much in hope in whoever beats him
This is where people don't understand why he was elected in the first place (and possibly will be reelected). He was elected because he wasn't Hillary, he'll get reelected because he isn't Joe, especially if Joe Bidden moves further left to try and shore up the Bernie supporters.
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Italy added 6000 cases today. holy fuck. I used to joke about the US Empire falling because of whatever.. but Italy may collapse as a country due to this.
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wdoupis wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:50 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:28 pm
wdoupis wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:21 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:09 pm
shel311 wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:04 pm My father in law just sent me a FB message with a pic that says if you gargle water with salt or vinegar, it eliminates Coronavirus.
I don't believe that (gargle part), but since last week the administration has done infinitely better (wasn't hard to get better from where they started) so that would put me in the 55%. I think the daily press conferences and informing the public has been a big help as well.
So defunding the CDC, closing down the pandemic relief team, and then babbling like an idiot for 2 months while we should have been preparing for all this and you now are in the 55% approval side because of the last week. Whatever happens to humans we certainly deserve it.
C'mon Billy, did you read what I said? I said since last week they have done infinitely better. That is all. If you don't think they have handled it much better since before last week then you are probably in the group that would be pissed if his team cured cancer. I didn't say they have this on the downward slope, just better messaging from the beginning.
Did you read what the poll said? If someone handles something as poorly as you possibly can for a long period of time and then waaaaay too late finally starts to act then they handled the response terribly.
This is all Shel posted:
ABC poll shows 55% of Americans approve of Trumps handling of the coronavirus response.

Yep, we're doomed.
I said I can see why it has gone up, the messaging from the past 10+ days.
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I'm up for a good conspiracy theory :)

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And his response has been absolutely atrocious so like I said, we deserve whatever happens if people are so stupid.
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1. Trump's response has been infinitely better this week. He scored a 0 for his response before this week. Infinity x 0 = ...
2. Things would be substantially better if the press conferences were just Fauci and Pence. It's nuts to admit, but I'd love Pence on the TV each day - in this instance he's measured, calm, and (god help us) reassuring. Whenever he is up there speaking, I have to laugh at Trump, who looks like he is doing an imitation of Baldwin doing an imitation of him on SNL. It's unreal.
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wdoupis wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:12 pm And his response has been absolutely atrocious so like I said, we deserve whatever happens if people are so stupid.
So we deserve people dying because people are stupid? I like it, battle of the fittest :?

So when Shel says I am the prototypical Trump supporter, I would put you and a couple of others in the prototypical appose Trump at all costs.
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