Final BCS Standings....

[shel311]

Weirdest public NDL votes ever!!!

[jsence2]

So what someone got screwed out of a bowl or a spot. Maybe that team should have made a tougher schedule or won a game they lost and not left it up to the voters.

I"m not sure how Doc could've made his schedule any tougher

Again, wasn't calling anybody out, was simply making observations about how.....interesting, diverse, etc the voting was. Stop taking everything so seriously man!

How are them Bruins doing?

[UclaMac]

So what someone got screwed out of a bowl or a spot. Maybe that team should have made a tougher schedule or won a game they lost and not left it up to the voters.

I"m not sure how Doc could've made his schedule any tougher

Again, wasn't calling anybody out, was simply making observations about how.....interesting, diverse, etc the voting was. Stop taking everything so seriously man!
How are them Bruins doing?

Lol kettle meet pot, or is it pot meet kettle I always forget!

[jsence2]

So what someone got screwed out of a bowl or a spot. Maybe that team should have made a tougher schedule or won a game they lost and not left it up to the voters.

I"m not sure how Doc could've made his schedule any tougher

Again, wasn't calling anybody out, was simply making observations about how.....interesting, diverse, etc the voting was. Stop taking everything so seriously man!
How are them Bruins doing?

Lol kettle meet pot, or is it pot meet kettle I always forget!

If I took everything seriously I'd hate half the people in here

[nightwing_v6]

I personally didn't vote either ECU or Nevada in my top 15 because of SOS.

[jsence2]

I personally didn't vote either ECU or Nevada in my top 15 because of SOS.

Which I can totally understand.

[dakshdar]

There isn't a chance in hell I'm ever spending 3 hours doing a poll for an online football league that is just for fun.

If I was going to job someone out of millions of dollars by costing them a BCS berth, then maybe I'd consider it.

[sammy33]

Weirdest public NDL votes ever!!!

Thank you shel for summing up my thoughts. I really didn't want to make a post because I don't feel like rambling. Some headscratchers, some oddities, some casualities, but it is what it is.

[doc]

A few observations....besides the biggest being that Pitt was left off two ballots (that's just....wow)

* I'm ranked in the top 9 on 11 ballots, and unranked on 11 ballots. Go figure
* Multiple people put Houston on their ballot ahead of me, some of whom even left me off of it....
* VVV voted me 21st, and Nick voted me 25th; I have to give credit where it's due, I figured they'd leave me off completely.
* A few people voted for me ahead of Texas and even South Carolina....I can't condone that at all
* Multiple people put 9-3 Southern Miss (whom I beat) ahead of me
* Almost every person who left me off their ballot has either had a personal issue with me at some point, or just simply dislikes me for an unknown reason....but all voting is done fairly
* The same person who put Nevada #1....put me at #2. I'm even more dumbfounded than I was earlier. How do you put either of us ahead of Oregon, Pitt, or about 8 other teams???

So all in all, I'd say the voting in here is....interesting.

Do you spend most of your day thinking about yourself, or just do it on the forums? Maybe theres a reason why people dont like you, or maybe most are like me and just get annoyed with all your posts about yourself.

I'm sorry, I'll break down the voting for everybody then. Would that make you happy? They were OBSERVATIONS, not complaints, not me talking about myself, they were OBSERVATIONS from me spending 5 min looking at who voted where. Some of which were about me feeling I was ranked TOO high. I just simply hoped people would take time and vote with care, some people (not me) were clearly effected by the voting.

And KDog you didn't really make any glaring mistakes that I could see. Voting was tough this year, it took me over an hour to do mine. Some people took 2-3 hours. Just some of the things (as Doc said) make you shake your head. Oh well....I'll enjoy the game with Arkansas, should be a fun game!

Whos to say they did or didnt? Based on the system that the NDL has created, the system asks coaches to rank the teams in the coaches opinion. Each coach expressed his opinion and like it or not thats it. So what someone got screwed out of a bowl or a spot. Maybe that team should have made a tougher schedule or won a game they lost and not left it up to the voters. My point is that everyone that voted using the system that the NDL created did their job, and its not fair for you or anyone else to criticize their efforts, cause at the end of the day they did what the NDL said for them to do and that was vote.

You are correct Bruin but my schedule couldnt have been any harder. I should have won 1 more game. I hope you arent implying that I care one way or another. I been in this league for every season just cracked 100 wins last season so bowl game or not Im playin for fun. Im just shocked and amazed by some of it. You really cant belive the last line you wrote. In case you for got these are boards. A place to put down an opinion whether you like it or not. Jsence had a great season he can feel like he got robbed a little. If you beat Oregon do you think you should have been in the NC talk? If you werent you would be quiet about it? I doubt it. If Jsence post about himself why say it annoys you? The NDL has gave him a forum to speak why complain? Just like we shouldnt criticize the voters.

[UclaMac]

A few observations....besides the biggest being that Pitt was left off two ballots (that's just....wow)

* I'm ranked in the top 9 on 11 ballots, and unranked on 11 ballots. Go figure
* Multiple people put Houston on their ballot ahead of me, some of whom even left me off of it....
* VVV voted me 21st, and Nick voted me 25th; I have to give credit where it's due, I figured they'd leave me off completely.
* A few people voted for me ahead of Texas and even South Carolina....I can't condone that at all
* Multiple people put 9-3 Southern Miss (whom I beat) ahead of me
* Almost every person who left me off their ballot has either had a personal issue with me at some point, or just simply dislikes me for an unknown reason....but all voting is done fairly
* The same person who put Nevada #1....put me at #2. I'm even more dumbfounded than I was earlier. How do you put either of us ahead of Oregon, Pitt, or about 8 other teams???

So all in all, I'd say the voting in here is....interesting.

Do you spend most of your day thinking about yourself, or just do it on the forums? Maybe theres a reason why people dont like you, or maybe most are like me and just get annoyed with all your posts about yourself.

I'm sorry, I'll break down the voting for everybody then. Would that make you happy? They were OBSERVATIONS, not complaints, not me talking about myself, they were OBSERVATIONS from me spending 5 min looking at who voted where. Some of which were about me feeling I was ranked TOO high. I just simply hoped people would take time and vote with care, some people (not me) were clearly effected by the voting.

And KDog you didn't really make any glaring mistakes that I could see. Voting was tough this year, it took me over an hour to do mine. Some people took 2-3 hours. Just some of the things (as Doc said) make you shake your head. Oh well....I'll enjoy the game with Arkansas, should be a fun game!

Whos to say they did or didnt? Based on the system that the NDL has created, the system asks coaches to rank the teams in the coaches opinion. Each coach expressed his opinion and like it or not thats it. So what someone got screwed out of a bowl or a spot. Maybe that team should have made a tougher schedule or won a game they lost and not left it up to the voters. My point is that everyone that voted using the system that the NDL created did their job, and its not fair for you or anyone else to criticize their efforts, cause at the end of the day they did what the NDL said for them to do and that was vote.

You are correct Bruin but my schedule couldnt have been any harder. I should have won 1 more game. I hope you arent implying that I care one way or another. I been in this league for every season just cracked 100 wins last season so bowl game or not Im playin for fun. Im just shocked and amazed by some of it. You really cant belive the last line you wrote. In case you for got these are boards. A place to put down an opinion whether you like it or not. Jsence had a great season he can feel like he got robbed a little. If you beat Oregon do you think you should have been in the NC talk? If you werent you would be quiet about it? I doubt it. If Jsence post about himself why say it annoys you? The NDL has gave him a forum to speak why complain? Just like we shouldnt criticize the voters.

You have a vaild point Doc and when I made my post it wasnt about anyone in general except maybe jscence. But thats because I do find him annoying, but thats our little tiff I guess. If I had beaten Oregon I still dont think I would have made it to the NC. I would have loved to have a dream season and take my team that I love even tho they suck ass in real life to the NDl championship, but it wasnt meant to be. Theres things that I can control like my games and then theres things that I cant control and that is other coaches opinion of me and or the ucla Bruins. My point about the voting is that I nor anyone else can control it really it has a mind of its own likewe have all witnessed. I do feel sorry for some guys that had a good season and in my opinion may have gotten robbed a little. But at the end of the day all my posts are my opinion and are fodder for discussion.

[jsence2]

Wow Doc....



HOOOOO!

[doc]

I agree 100% thats what the forums are here for and when u open the vote for public display then you open yourself to be criticized is my point. Just didnt get we shouldnt say anything about the way some people voted thats all.

[nick]

my vote was based off a program i bought and i weighed different things and it spit out the numbers for me. Thats what my bowl projections were based on and thats why my final vote might look fucked. I paid $40 for it might as well use it lol.

[ndlquack]

Public Apology to Doc

I could have swore I put you at #3 and for some reason you were left off. That was not intentional. I think I realized that I was missing some teams and I tried to move everybody down one slot but must have messed up some where.

Sorry

[jsence2]

Just a quick question, not trying to stir the pot or anything but just something I'd never realized until now....maybe one of the higher-ups can answer this:

Didn't the BCS get rid of the "add one point for a loss" component of the BCS formula? If so, are we just keeping it because it adds something to the system, or because it never got looked at?

I think the top 3 becomes Oregon, Pitt, Miami if we used the current formula. I'm too tired to do the legwork right now but if someone else wants to run the numbers, it'd be interesting to see how things shaked out.

[Block M]

Not to beat a dead horse into the ground but voting....WOW.

If people are going to abuse it, they should lose it.

[fsupenguin]

Not to beat a dead horse into the ground but voting....WOW.

If people are going to abuse it, they should lose it.

Not really a good answer to the problem though that I can even imagine. I personally am a bit embarrassed that I see that I left Ohio State off my poll, not sure how I missed my own conferences champion when voting . Also don't forget guys, we do have a tournament every season giving everyone a fair chance, so do we really need to even talk about have a 4 team playoff/plus 1 or anything like that?

[nick]

THIS IS MADNESS.....THIS...IS...SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAA

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_ttcSaTheI[/youtube]

[Block M]

Not to beat a dead horse into the ground but voting....WOW.

If people are going to abuse it, they should lose it.

Not really a good answer to the problem though that I can even imagine. I personally am a bit embarrassed that I see that I left Ohio State off my poll, not sure how I missed my own conferences champion when voting . Also don't forget guys, we do have a tournament every season giving everyone a fair chance, so do we really need to even talk about have a 4 team playoff/plus 1 or anything like that?

Maybe not, and I cannot blame anyone for forgetting a team. I'm sure it's happened to 90% of the people who have voted but there are polls this season that go a little further than just forgetting to place a team in their poll.

[fsupenguin]

Not to beat a dead horse into the ground but voting....WOW.

If people are going to abuse it, they should lose it.

Not really a good answer to the problem though that I can even imagine. I personally am a bit embarrassed that I see that I left Ohio State off my poll, not sure how I missed my own conferences champion when voting . Also don't forget guys, we do have a tournament every season giving everyone a fair chance, so do we really need to even talk about have a 4 team playoff/plus 1 or anything like that?

Maybe not, and I cannot blame anyone for forgetting a team. I'm sure it's happened to 90% of the people who have voted but there are polls this season that go a little further than just forgetting to place a team in their poll.

True. Also can you believe no one voted for Minnesota at all!