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Lovely. Well done T!

ajalves wrote:im ok either way to be honest

I am as well in essence of keeping the league going, making it stronger with adding new live teams, and ease for Trendon to do his job so he isnt so sensitive...BUT I think its very unrealistic and gives them a major advantage come free agent time depending on how much cash they get from their owners.

Good either way though.

Cnasty wrote:

ajalves wrote:im ok either way to be honest

I am as well in essence of keeping the league going, making it stronger with adding new live teams, and ease for Trendon to do his job so he isnt so sensitive...BUT I think its very unrealistic and gives them a major advantage come free agent time depending on how much cash they get from their owners.

Good either way though.

Meh... 80% of free agents are our old trash that's wayyy too expensive. Let those guys have at it instead of them being free agents 2 months into the season..

Cnasty wrote:

ajalves wrote:im ok either way to be honest

I am as well in essence of keeping the league going, making it stronger with adding new live teams, and ease for Trendon to do his job so he isnt so sensitive...BUT I think its very unrealistic and gives them a major advantage come free agent time depending on how much cash they get from their owners.

Good either way though.

They would be at a bigger advantage if they only chose minor league contract in the expansion draft and had their entire budget to spend vs. having to take on contracts already on the team.

brwnbear wrote:

Cnasty wrote:

ajalves wrote:im ok either way to be honest

I am as well in essence of keeping the league going, making it stronger with adding new live teams, and ease for Trendon to do his job so he isnt so sensitive...BUT I think its very unrealistic and gives them a major advantage come free agent time depending on how much cash they get from their owners.

Good either way though.

They would be at a bigger advantage if they only chose minor league contract in the expansion draft and had their entire budget to spend vs. having to take on contracts already on the team.

dont give my secert away, jus yet.. Ill play Moneyball !!

brwnbear wrote:They would be at a bigger advantage if they only chose minor league contract in the expansion draft.

But at least thats realistic and there teams would suck starting out but develop young talent from within (Tampa Bay) or try to get huge contracts and free agents and win now (Florida Marlins)

Just showing both sides to what is happening.

Cnasty wrote:

brwnbear wrote:They would be at a bigger advantage if they only chose minor league contract in the expansion draft.

But at least thats realistic and there teams would suck starting out but develop young talent from within (Tampa Bay) or try to get huge contracts and free agents and win now (Florida Marlins)

Just showing both sides to what is happening.

nice way of putting it, Regardless what happens, I cant wait

1- If it's easier for Trendon and the majority wants it this way, I am ok with it.
2- If I was a new guy, I personally would want to build my own team through expansion draft rather than be handed a team already made up.
3- It's not fair, IMO, to the past expansion teams, that built their teams from scratch and had to endure rough seasons.
4- Like Corey and Shel alluded to, I like the strategy of leaving a high contract/somebody you want to get rid of, out there as bait. And it's the realistic way of expansion. This is more of a merger.
5- Some people were complaining about the amount of stars in the league, although I think the numbers aren't that far out of whack. (Injuries yes!) But this solution does nothing to dillute the player pool among more teams, it just brings in more players,

Just some of my thoughts.

I_S33M_THAB33T_U wrote:

brwnbear wrote:

Cnasty wrote:

ajalves wrote:im ok either way to be honest

I am as well in essence of keeping the league going, making it stronger with adding new live teams, and ease for Trendon to do his job so he isnt so sensitive...BUT I think its very unrealistic and gives them a major advantage come free agent time depending on how much cash they get from their owners.

Good either way though.

They would be at a bigger advantage if they only chose minor league contract in the expansion draft and had their entire budget to spend vs. having to take on contracts already on the team.

dont give my secert away, jus yet.. Ill play Moneyball !!

welcome to most of the league lol. theres probably 5 total big spenders

Bernie32 wrote:1- If it's easier for Trendon and the majority wants it this way, I am ok with it.
2- If I was a new guy, I personally would want to build my own team through expansion draft rather than be handed a team already made up.
3- It's not fair, IMO, to the past expansion teams, that built their teams from scratch and had to endure rough seasons.
4- Like Corey and Shel alluded to, I like the strategy of leaving a high contract/somebody you want to get rid of, out there as bait. And it's the realistic way of expansion. This is more of a merger.
5- Some people were complaining about the amount of stars in the league, although I think the numbers aren't that far out of whack. (Injuries yes!) But this solution does nothing to dillute the player pool among more teams, it just brings in more players,

Just some of my thoughts.

well said on all accounts.

Bernie32 wrote:1- If it's easier for Trendon and the majority wants it this way, I am ok with it.
2- If I was a new guy, I personally would want to build my own team through expansion draft rather than be handed a team already made up.

Exactlly what i want to do, U build a team of young talent n maybe a couple bigger names to help u along, But i personally dont just want to be handed a team, But i really dont have alot of say in it.

I do know i want in badly n wanna get started.

Bernie32 wrote: 5- Some people were complaining about the amount of stars in the league, although I think the numbers aren't that far out of whack. (Injuries yes!) But this solution does nothing to dillute the player pool among more teams, it just brings in more players,

Just some of my thoughts.

Sure it does. The free agency pool will be decimated, teams will have to be picky, and the waiver wires will get plundered again instead of being able to pass pretty much anyone you want through.

Seeitsaveit13 wrote:

Bernie32 wrote: 5- Some people were complaining about the amount of stars in the league, although I think the numbers aren't that far out of whack. (Injuries yes!) But this solution does nothing to dillute the player pool among more teams, it just brings in more players,

Just some of my thoughts.

Sure it does. The free agency pool will be decimated, teams will have to be picky, and the waiver wires will get plundered again

Realistic if u ask me, Not like in real life do teams just throw away mid talent on waivers for no reason, unless i guess ur the yanks who can afford it

Seeitsaveit13 wrote:

Bernie32 wrote: 5- Some people were complaining about the amount of stars in the league, although I think the numbers aren't that far out of whack. (Injuries yes!) But this solution does nothing to dillute the player pool among more teams, it just brings in more players,

Just some of my thoughts.

Sure it does. The free agency pool will be decimated, teams will have to be picky, and the waiver wires will get plundered again instead of being able to pass pretty much anyone you want through.

You are bringing in 220 new players. Some of those players will become free agents too or hit the waiver wire, making up for any FA's lost to the new 4 teams. In time yes, once these guys all retire. But expansion plus keeping USBL in tact is more of a dilution.

the only argument to this is, Wash/Seattle were once USBL teams I believe and were moved over to make the NDL league bigger. Not 100% sure on this though but I'm pretty sure thats what happened cause I remember Philly/Chi going through my players and taking them, but I dont remember losing any to Wash/Seattle when we expanded

Bernie32 wrote: You are bringing in 220 new players.

Where are these players comming from?

nick wrote:the only argument to this is, Wash/Seattle were once USBL teams I believe and were moved over to make the NDL league bigger. Not 100% sure on this though but I'm pretty sure thats what happened cause I remember Philly/Chi going through my players and taking them, but I dont remember losing any to Wash/Seattle when we expanded

I wasn't around for those seasons, so I don't know about that. But Trendon did say "Why haven't I thought of this before?", so that led me to believe no.

brwnbear wrote:

Bernie32 wrote: You are bringing in 220 new players.

Where are these players comming from?

the USBL? The same league that had Ando in it before Trendon got him, whos now killing the NDLB.. ya, that league with just as much exceptional talent as ours.

brwnbear wrote:

Bernie32 wrote: You are bringing in 220 new players.

Where are these players comming from?

4 USBL teams, 40 man rosters plus Trendon said they have 15 protected or something. 4 times 55 equals 220.

Bernie32 wrote:

Seeitsaveit13 wrote:

Bernie32 wrote: 5- Some people were complaining about the amount of stars in the league, although I think the numbers aren't that far out of whack. (Injuries yes!) But this solution does nothing to dillute the player pool among more teams, it just brings in more players,

Just some of my thoughts.

Sure it does. The free agency pool will be decimated, teams will have to be picky, and the waiver wires will get plundered again instead of being able to pass pretty much anyone you want through.

You are bringing in 220 new players. Some of those players will become free agents too or hit the waiver wire, making up for any FA's lost to the new 4 teams. In time yes, once these guys all retire. But expansion plus keeping USBL in tact is more of a dilution.

No. You are bringing in 120 players. Read what Trendon wrote. They have 40 man teams and that's it. The rest they'll sign, get through waivers, trade for etc.

EDIT: 160... I forgot the ghost team