Season 16 Award Voting Now Open

[NCSUholmey]

ok, i've got a question...why was there no temple players on any awards list? wait, haha, that's not the question cause i know the answer.

the real question is, if i voted and submitted my ballot but it will let me vote again does that mean my ballot didn't take? cause when i click on the award voting it'll still let me vote.

yes, it registered, I will add something by the next go around to make sure that if you vote, it will let you know

[chuskerpride]

thanks, you are a beast sir

[shel311]

holy shit, lmao at someone and their idea of "moderation" with their TE

ah man, good times.

Can't believe it took you that long to see that.


Moderation schmoderation someone said.

[Ank]

holy shit, lmao at someone and their idea of "moderation" with their TE

ah man, good times.

Can't believe it took you that long to see that.


Moderation schmoderation someone said.

Im still shaking my head at the Army opps.....if your coming up with a defensive game plan would you not put 5 guys on the TE? All but 42 of Armys 190 plus completions went to the TE.

[bearass]

And people thought I threw to king dong alot.

[ajalves]

And people thought I threw to king dong alot.

you did

[Whit]

And people thought I threw to king dong alot.

you did

[Cnasty]

Can't believe it took you that long to see that.

Shhhhhhhhh

Its all about Outback Steakhouse.

[WJ5811]

My only problem with the moderation and mixing it up concept it that guys only seem to apply it to the passing game. It seems okay to hand the ball off to the same guy all game for 25-30 attempts and only throw 5 passes all game. But if someone throws the ball 30 times and only runs 5 times then they get called on it. I say as long as you are running different plays passing then throw it to him if hes open. I mean its okay to hand the ball off to the same guy all game as long as you use different running plays.

[ReignOnU]

My only problem with the moderation and mixing it up concept it that guys only seem to apply it to the passing game. It seems okay to hand the ball off to the same guy all game for 25-30 attempts and only throw 5 passes all game. But if someone throws the ball 30 times and only runs 5 times then they get called on it. I say as long as you are running different plays passing then throw it to him if hes open. I mean its okay to hand the ball off to the same guy all game as long as you use different running plays.

I like this guy!

Not only do I love to pass the ball to my RBs, my TE, slants, outs and streaks... hell, I do pretty good job of getting your DBs some looks as well. That's all 5s on my report waiting to happen!

[TerpsMustDie]

My only problem with the moderation and mixing it up concept it that guys only seem to apply it to the passing game. It seems okay to hand the ball off to the same guy all game for 25-30 attempts and only throw 5 passes all game. But if someone throws the ball 30 times and only runs 5 times then they get called on it. I say as long as you are running different plays passing then throw it to him if hes open. I mean its okay to hand the ball off to the same guy all game as long as you use different running plays.

Very true...it definitely goes both ways.

[Uuaww]

plus he lost most games, and people are a lot more forgiving if they are winning.

[nick]

And people thought I threw to king dong alot.

you do lol. you threw to him almost 95% of our bowl game. I got 2 pick 6's off you by doubling Gresham and u forced it lol.

[Cnasty]

[BFiVL]

My only problem with the moderation and mixing it up concept it that guys only seem to apply it to the passing game. It seems okay to hand the ball off to the same guy all game for 25-30 attempts and only throw 5 passes all game. But if someone throws the ball 30 times and only runs 5 times then they get called on it. I say as long as you are running different plays passing then throw it to him if hes open. I mean its okay to hand the ball off to the same guy all game as long as you use different running plays.

You are saying 2 different things here WJ. If you said Throw the ball 30 times to the same guy over and over you may have a case. Many more passing plays than run plays which gives the appearance of diversity as long as they are spreading the ball around.

If you look at the true running Coaches Ill take VTRunnGun for example, prolly the only coach that comes close to what you are saying about 30 runs and five passes, those runs are never to the same folks, its not strictly off tackle plays.

I think the real argument should be the guys who pass 30 times a game and its the same 3 pass plays or the guys who run the ball and its same play over and over ( but once again its harder to fault these guys cause you have a much more limited running selection than passing).

[shel311]

If you look at the true running Coaches Ill take VTRunnGun for example, prolly the only coach that comes close to what you are saying about 30 runs and five passes, those runs are never to the same folks, its not strictly off tackle plays.

Not the only coach, and I'm fairly certain that's not who WJ had in mind when he made that post.

[BFiVL]

If you look at the true running Coaches Ill take VTRunnGun for example, prolly the only coach that comes close to what you are saying about 30 runs and five passes, those runs are never to the same folks, its not strictly off tackle plays.

Not the only coach, and I'm fairly certain that's not who WJ had in mind when he made that post.

Even looking at this rusher we are talking 24 carries a game with 6 pass attempts a game. The back up hb is seeing 5 carries a game.. As long as he is mixing up plays, that shouldnt be an issue. There is only 2 options here. Pass or run. Now in a perfect world it be 50/50, but its not gonna happen. If you are a strong running team with a great back then wear his ass out, but you better make sure you are mixing up your run plays ( sweeps, counters, tackles, dives etc... to all sides of the field). Same with throwing to a great WR. You better have more than one route that you go to him with.

[Bernie32]

I love how every one focuses on the offensive variety. What about the defense??

I played a guy that, no lie or exaggeration, sat in the same exact zone at least 90% of the time. I understand if your a zone guy, but what the fuck? Mix it up. There are cover 2, cover 3, and even cover 4. Mix in some zone blitzes. Now I could have simply abused the plays that beat his zone, but truth be told, I didnt realize it until too late. I'm not that good. And even if, what is the fun of me running the same play/route every time against his same play. I enjoy the matchups and strategizing. I also played one guy that blitzed every time out of a 4-3 against a spread offense (UTEP has no fullback). I simply threw over his blitz every time. One game was a win, one was a loss, both got equally poor coaches reports from me. So it's not about winning or losing.

[bearass]

And people thought I threw to king dong alot.

you do lol. you threw to him almost 95% of our bowl game. I got 2 pick 6's off you by doubling Gresham and u forced it lol.

you're right i threw to him 28 times of 29 passes

[WJ5811]

My only problem with the moderation and mixing it up concept it that guys only seem to apply it to the passing game. It seems okay to hand the ball off to the same guy all game for 25-30 attempts and only throw 5 passes all game. But if someone throws the ball 30 times and only runs 5 times then they get called on it. I say as long as you are running different plays passing then throw it to him if hes open. I mean its okay to hand the ball off to the same guy all game as long as you use different running plays.

You are saying 2 different things here WJ. If you said Throw the ball 30 times to the same guy over and over you may have a case. Many more passing plays than run plays which gives the appearance of diversity as long as they are spreading the ball around.

If you look at the true running Coaches Ill take VTRunnGun for example, prolly the only coach that comes close to what you are saying about 30 runs and five passes, those runs are never to the same folks, its not strictly off tackle plays.

I think the real argument should be the guys who pass 30 times a game and its the same 3 pass plays or the guys who run the ball and its same play over and over ( but once again its harder to fault these guys cause you have a much more limited running selection than passing).

Maybe I didnt word it very well. It seems in the past some guys (myself included Season 14) have been hit hard for running a pass heavy offense and also being scrutinized for throwing to the #1 WR to much. When I ran the spread I used every formation and used different routes but true my RB would get between 5-8 carries a game. Some of the gripes I heard at the end of the season were I threw to much to my tall #1 WR and I didnt run the ball enough and needed to mix in more runs. So that was the last season I ran the spread offense and have gone to a more behind the center balenced attack. Even though I like throwing the ball alot more than running I changed the offense because it was listed as a problem so I fixed it.

So my point is I guess is two fold. That it seems ok to give the same guy the ball all game as long as its not a passing play. Also it seems ok to run the ball 30 times and pass 5 times but you cant pass 30 times and run 5 times. Im not saying pass the ball to the same guy 30 times either because I doubt you could mix up the routes that much and give him the ball 30 times. But still the guys that are running the ball that much arent running that many different plays atleast not when I play them they dont. I have no problem with a guy running say an option offense or flexbone offense as his main attack. But also guys shouldnt have a problem with someone running the spread SG offense as the main attack either. The thing is when you run the ball the goal is to get it to your best RB and have him produce. But not as much consideration is given when throwing to your top WR or TE.