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Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:37 pm
by Dcane7
You don't get points for conservative play except the option and swat the ball...From what I know there are still a few even if set to aggressive will not give you points.
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:39 pm
by Shiftdnb
Things like Big Hit can be both strategy and skill. If you see it add to the strategy then the user has the big hit strategy set up if it's skill then it was a user controlled thing. This goes for pretty much everything including jump snap. Again MODERATION is the key term. It's always just been something that is said and expected but when someone has a complaint, if you look in the rules it says nothing about using moderation, other than playcalling from back when we first started.
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:55 pm
by trendon
Man, I am the cheesiest SOB in this league. In about 17 league games, I've hit 50 in strategy points at least half of the time! In fact, most of that was last season, too.
I have had the fortune of playing guys who actual think about their play-calling (re: don't pick plays in two seconds) and kept me away from hitting the trusty L2-Up even in typical pass situations. I think against Seeit, I had very little strat points because I couldn't bank on him doing anything.
All in all, this is a sore spot for me. There is an old saying - and a kinda corny one - that goes "when you point the finger, there are four more pointing back at you"; even though your thumb is kinda pointing away, too. Either way, I think this is true with a lot of the nitpicking in this league; look to yourself before blaming others.
Sure is a lot of legilslation for "fun".
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:03 pm
by fsupenguin
I don't get it. Guessing the run is banned already, now we have restrictions on guessing the pass as well? I was not aware this was a problem on any level at all.
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:05 pm
by BFiVL
fsupenguin wrote:I don't get it. Guessing the run is banned already, now we have restrictions on guessing the pass as well? I was not aware this was a problem on any level at all.
Where did you read that there are restrictions?
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:05 pm
by Shiftdnb
Trendon, it's no fun when you see User Jump Snap every single play and no matter how hard you try you still can't get a team to go offsides and run the risk of getting false start penalties if you're the away team. Had this happen in a game, user is no longer part of the league, I could not get his guys to jump offsides and I got like 7 false start penalties.
penguin, I think this rule being instated has nothing to do with certain features being banned it's so that we can see if in fact people are using things in moderation.
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:07 pm
by shel311
fsupenguin wrote:I don't get it. Guessing the run is banned already, now we have restrictions on guessing the pass as well? I was not aware this was a problem on any level at all.
You say it like the restriction is solely on "guess the pass" lol
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:10 pm
by fsupenguin
shel311 wrote:fsupenguin wrote:I don't get it. Guessing the run is banned already, now we have restrictions on guessing the pass as well? I was not aware this was a problem on any level at all.
You say it like the restriction is solely on "guess the pass" lol
We already don't guess the run at all, so what else is there?
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:11 pm
by shel311
fsupenguin wrote:shel311 wrote:fsupenguin wrote:I don't get it. Guessing the run is banned already, now we have restrictions on guessing the pass as well? I was not aware this was a problem on any level at all.
You say it like the restriction is solely on "guess the pass" lol
We already don't guess the run at all, so what else is there?
Dude, there's about 6 or 7 EACH on offense and defense, lol.
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:13 pm
by fsupenguin
Ok I see the point I think. At the same time evidently I am not using all of this games features cause I am a little bit lost on some of this.
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:15 pm
by shel311
fsupenguin wrote:Ok I see the point I think. At the same time evidently I am not using all of this games features cause I am a little bit lost on some of this.
And you're a good man for not doing so.

Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:16 pm
by fsupenguin
shel311 wrote:fsupenguin wrote:Ok I see the point I think. At the same time evidently I am not using all of this games features cause I am a little bit lost on some of this.
And you're a good man for not doing so.

Maybe, but I would like to know what they are now

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Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:34 pm
by Shiftdnb
How could you not know??? It pops up before 1st half kickoff and 2nd half kickoff!!! Well not the guess pass and rush feature but that was in last years game if I'm not mistaken, just this year they added guess run right, left and middle.
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:11 pm
by fsupenguin
Shiftdnb wrote:How could you not know??? It pops up before 1st half kickoff and 2nd half kickoff!!! Well not the guess pass and rush feature but that was in last years game if I'm not mistaken, just this year they added guess run right, left and middle.
We are talking about playing on aggressive, neutral or passive? How is this an issue?
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:29 pm
by buckeye76
Good Shit AJ!
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:37 pm
by dakshdar
fsupenguin wrote:Shiftdnb wrote:How could you not know??? It pops up before 1st half kickoff and 2nd half kickoff!!! Well not the guess pass and rush feature but that was in last years game if I'm not mistaken, just this year they added guess run right, left and middle.
We are talking about playing on aggressive, neutral or passive? How is this an issue?
Because, as always, some new stuff EA instituted is a little overdone the first time around.
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:38 pm
by Frankie7512
fsupenguin wrote:Shiftdnb wrote:How could you not know??? It pops up before 1st half kickoff and 2nd half kickoff!!! Well not the guess pass and rush feature but that was in last years game if I'm not mistaken, just this year they added guess run right, left and middle.
We are talking about playing on aggressive, neutral or passive? How is this an issue?
Yeah I am a bit confused on this! Are we talking about the "aggressive,conservative,etc" screen that pops up at the pick ur play screen if u hit L2???Cause this is the only thing I have ever used. And I have seen jump the snap and "play the pass" points given when using aggressive before. Like I have used it when down in games,which is very often by the way,and I think I have seen these type of points given. So I think some clarity is need for me here as I am not sure what it is that can be counted against you in coaches reports. I love playing here and I don't wanna be docked on a report due to confusion

Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:32 pm
by ajalves
we're talking about both......aggressive, conservitive set up....and the L2 stuff.....
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:32 pm
by VeniVediV1ci
can we get some methods before we go into the madness here?
I just want to know why
Re: ***Season Showdown***
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:42 pm
by BFiVL
Pretty simple VVV, the gimmicks EA added have really soured alot of people. Though they are not banned, We preach moderation and folks want a clear view on this. Season showdown being on, it will take the guess work out. This should not change anyones game play cause as we all know we all follow rules

. This is going to force a lot of people to show their EA hand, this will take nothing away from stick skill as skill points are totally different, this will be for the folks who want to leave things on all game like strip,big hit, big run, etc...... which is an issue.
Hope that answers your question