PGA Tour 2k21

[Whittness10]

AJ or Dan? What settings are you running on the NDL society? I'm trying to mirror them but Masters is definitely not what you have

AJ would have to verify, but I think it was close to the TGC Tours beer league settings. I went onto their website, and put all those settings in my player profile on the game, so now even if I play a single round, or my PGA Tour career, I'm playing with the same settings consistently.

[DRiccio21]

just my opinion but you guys are overthinking a lot of this stuff with the settings. go to the tgctours site, use the settings for the main leagues, not the beer league. tgc is the main 2k league and those settings are essentially the default for the game at this point in the online world. no other societies are even close to TGC tours, they have thousands of members and affiliations with the game that others aren't given.

learn how to play with those settings, they ran the data on tens of thousands of rounds to get to the settings they created to try to make a sim-like experience.. its the best sim possible and you'll eventually figure it out even tho its challenging at the beginning. and yes guys still shoot really low cause some dudes are good at video games just like some dudes are really good at madden or whatever other game you might play.

if you want competition closer to your skill set play in leagues like NDL society instead of TGC tours but imo those settings should be the standard/norm.

i enjoy playing with the NDL group and the recent settings change is enough that its not arcade like anymore and its cool to have another way to bond w everyone so i'll keep playing it but just giving my thoughts.

[ReignOnU]

These greens destroyed me. I went from putting as my strength in the last event to my putting being as accurate as a Derek Anderson pass.

Lesson learned... stay BELOW the hole.

...also... screw this course for begging me to do stupid stuff (and me for listening).

[GeorgesGoons]

No clue what you scored, but I'm guessing I will be +10 strokes from you

[Whittness10]

I finished up this weeks beer league event at a staggering +1, for the whole tournament. If I can't shoot under par in those settings, why the hell would I want to make it harder on myself just to have a more sim experience? The only thing that would be sim would be my frustration after 4 putting every green on the front 9 and wanting to find the beverage cart.

[DRiccio21]

I finished up this weeks beer league event at a staggering +1, for the whole tournament. If I can't shoot under par in those settings, why the hell would I want to make it harder on myself just to have a more sim experience? The only thing that would be sim would be my frustration after 4 putting every green on the front 9 and wanting to find the beverage cart.

you’ve played on those settings for a week.

As I’ve said multiple times, the game has a steep learning curve at the beginning.

You’ll figure it out. I’ve gone thru this exact situation with a bunch of friends and everyone goes thru same progression of 1) this is impossible 2) I’m figuring it out but still suck 3) This game feels like real golf 4) If only I could putt better 5) I’m good at it finally!

It’s like the progression you go thru in real life golfing except I’ve been stuck at 2 for a long time

[ReignOnU]

you’ve played on those settings for a week.

As I’ve said multiple times, the game has a steep learning curve at the beginning.

You’ll figure it out. I’ve gone thru this exact situation with a bunch of friends and everyone goes thru same progression of 1) this is impossible 2) I’m figuring it out but still suck 3) This game feels like real golf 4) If only I could putt better 5) I’m good at it finally!

It’s like the progression you go thru in real life golfing except I’ve been stuck at 2 for a long time

I'm not sure I'll agree with 3 at any point, just because I don't think the controls/setup mimic real life. Though I can agree on just the premise of scoring/approach overall.

I'd love it if the shot stick wasn't tempo/timing and accuracy, but more about shot shaping, with it being nearly impossible to hit the ball straight. It could just be warped view of golf and how I've changed my approach since owning a simulator, but I am squarely in the camp of "hitting a straight shot is the hardest thing to do it in golf." I guess that approach is just completely illogical for a video golf game though.

This is how I'd set it up...
- No adjustment for hitting the ball on the left/right side to create ball flight pre-shot
- No adjustment for loft to generate spin on landing pre-shot.
- The only pre-shot adjustment would be ball position in the stance, forward-back, to adjust the loft/launch.
- Otherwise, the use of the shot stick 100% imitates real life (see chart below) and hitting a shot dead straight, perfect, is incredibly hard (maybe 30%-40% likelihood for the best in the world).
- I'd think the game would be tuned almost opposite of how it is now, where instead of it being more/less forgiving on the dead center shots (swing plane), it is more/less forgiving on the off-center shots, since most shots will be off-center. The further away you go from center, the more forgiving it becomes, which allows people to learn to shape shots.

[ReignOnU]

Tried the TGC settings...

Off of the tee: Minimal difference
Irons: If I can stick to mostly full shots, minimal difference
Around the green: Stick to splash and chip, mostly full shots, not bad
Putting: Hell, pure Hell. Distance control is non-existent for me. I'll be at 4 on Dave's list for awhile.

[GeorgesGoons]

Tried the TGC settings...

Off of the tee: Minimal difference
Irons: If I can stick to mostly full shots, minimal difference
Around the green: Stick to splash and chip, mostly full shots, not bad
Putting: Hell, pure Hell. Distance control is non-existent for me. I'll be at 4 on Dave's list for awhile.

I tried it and most likely won't go back to it. I want some level of fun when playing a game and all I got was at least 2-3 F-Bombs each hole with those settings.

I like how AJ and Dan have the settings set up in the NDL, which I copied for the NDL Beer League. First time playing on them sucked ass buy I've gotten it under control now. I will shoot a +5 to -15 every tourney. If I was only shooting -15 consistently then I'd try Pro setting for the swing (which I tried today and shot a +14)

[wdoupis]

Curious about everyone's approach to playing... are you "Bryson" or "Brooks?"

Bryson - The game is all about math. You calculate elevation, wind, lie, and green slope, making tiny adjustments for every factor, then hit your shot.

Brooks - You see the pin, you know your general distances, then you use shot shaping and general estimates to get the ball where you need it.

More of a Daly. Get drunk and play while smoking some heaters and thinking what could have been

[ReignOnU]

I'll be playing mostly on the beer settings for now... but I'm going to try to approach my putting a little different so I can get a good feel for the distances (ex. watching the putting motion, but checking the meter to see how much I'm off). The other stuff is mostly just visual details.

Yardage on the marker... not too big of a deal because you can cycle through clubs and guess within 3-5yds of a given point.
Wind speed... the meter is a direct indicator, so once you know what 1/4 increments are, you know the wind speed within 2 mph.
To me, the putting is the massive factor. Because on our current settings, the distance for the straight putt is accounted for. You just adjust the line and land it between the meter. Without the meter, it's really hard to judge a 40% putt vs 55% putt... and 15% difference can send you off of the green or leave you 15' short on a lag. I definitely see why Dave listed it as #4 on his list. If I could putt even as good as I do IRL, I'd be on these settings going forward.

[Whittness10]

I've tried this once and it helped a little bit. For partial shots you can always switch to practice swing. If you have too much or too little power, it'll still show up in red, but if you're in a decent range it'll turn grey on your feedback. Do that a few times to get the feel, then switch over and hit your shot. It's not 100% accurate, but it'll give you an idea of where to be. Increases the overall time to play your round though.

[DRiccio21]

You guys are trying something for a few hours and swearing it off. It’s pretty absurd. It took me weeks to figure out the game.

The game has a dedicated following and the settings are almost universally the same. They created the beer league for guys who wanted more relaxed setting. I agree that’s a good NDL compromise but if everyone else can figure out the normal settings, why wouldn’t you be able to?

Put some time into it. The way we do putting is a way too simple. Putting is definitely the steepest part of learning curve but you’ll figure it out. It actually fucks me up with the power bar cause I usually try to putt past the hole and the meter gives you the perfect power which is a joke.

[ReignOnU]

I've tried this once and it helped a little bit. For partial shots you can always switch to practice swing. If you have too much or too little power, it'll still show up in red, but if you're in a decent range it'll turn grey on your feedback. Do that a few times to get the feel, then switch over and hit your shot. It's not 100% accurate, but it'll give you an idea of where to be. Increases the overall time to play your round though.

Maybe Dave can chime in on this method I was trying this morning...

I'd pullback 1-3x and feel for the vibration, while watching where the vibration was happening in the backswing of my player. Then I'd try to hit that point just before the vibration in the actual shot. That was producing good results when I could do it right. (rarely, lol)

[DRiccio21]

Ya that vibration is one setting to know how much to pull back.

When you play the game enough you’ll just get a feel for it when that vibration setting is off.

I hit my flops mostly on feel completely with like 1/4 1/2 power

[GeorgesGoons]

Geiranger Golf Club, Norway is a fun little course. I tried to only do foreign courses in the NDL Beer League. The schedule is much faster than the original NDL league at 1 day (may switch it to 2 days) to play 2 rounds and 4 days to play the 4 round major

[GeorgesGoons]

Geiranger Golf Club, Norway is a fun little course. I tried to only do foreign courses in the NDL Beer League. The schedule is much faster than the original NDL league at 1 day (may switch it to 2 days) to play 2 rounds and 4 days to play the 4 round major

Nobody else is playing there so I may just keep it that way for now so I have a new course to play daily

[ReignOnU]

George... I applied if you're keeping it open to get extra rounds in.

[GeorgesGoons]

George... I applied if you're keeping it open to get extra rounds in.

I'm about to jump on now to play a round. I'll approve as soon as I get on

[DRiccio21]

I missed a 4 footer to end up at a tie in this tourney