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ReignOnU wrote: She's about as middle as it gets in today's climate. It's why I've said she'd be the 1 candidate that's declared for the democrats that I think could stand toe to toe with Trump and win. A lot of what she says makes sense, even if I disagree with her on some things.

Democrats will never give her a chance as they view her as a talking head for the Republican party. That is how far left the Democrat party has gone.

I think it's crazy to vote straight party line. With that said, because of how far overboard many democrats are going, it would take a small miracle for me to vote D on any level above local. Even with Tulsi, it would take a lot to convince me that she wouldn't fall back and support a lot of radical ideas. So that leaves me with the alternative.
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Buddy from high school/college is moderating the Democratic debate tonight lol. Wild
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Speaker Nancy Pelosi is now threatening to withhold the articles of impeachment that Democrats just passed until the Senate sets trial terms that she and her left-wing faction deem adequate
Kinda sounds like quid pro quo :lol:
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Speaker Nancy Pelosi is now threatening to withhold the articles of impeachment that Democrats just passed until the Senate sets trial terms that she and her left-wing faction deem adequate
Kinda sounds like quid pro quo :lol:
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I can't believe George hasn't posted about this Iran situation yet.
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ya whats this WW3 shit?
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nick wrote:ya whats this WW3 shit?
People overreacting like always.
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lol i would hope
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I am curious what the conservative take is on this one. Where are you George!!!!!!
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i'm obviously not on the conservative or liberal side, but i truly think the outrage from the left is solely due to Trump hatred.


I honestly don't see a huge difference between killing the terrorist Bin Laden and this terrorist. Yes, I understand he's part of the government of a foreign country, but IMO he's a terrorist first and foremost.

This certainly could spark up a lot of shit and backlash and all that bad stuff that comes with doing something like this, but this is surely not the start of WW3.
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you still cant just kill gov officials. Why cant another country kill Trump?
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nick wrote:you still cant just kill gov officials. Why cant another country kill Trump?
He was a terrorist that was the Director of a US recognized terrorist organization on foreign soil in which US soldiers are lawfully on the same foreign land, had just committee terrorist acts against America, his terrorist acts are responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans over the years(mostly soldiers in the ME), and he had plans for more eminent attacks, and he was with other well known terrorists.


The US killed a terrorist who was plotting more terrorist attacks.
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eh. i guess Obamas a terrorist too cause he drone striked so many places and killed so many innocent civilians that hed have to be classified as a terrorist.

just for context:
Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama’s two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush. Between 384 and 807 civilians were killed in those countries, according to reports logged by the Bureau.
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nick wrote:eh. i guess Obamas a terrorist too cause he drone striked so many places and killed so many innocent civilians that hed have to be classified as a terrorist.
So the US should just sit back and let this dude perform those terrrorist attacks he had planned.


Ok.
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shel311 wrote:
nick wrote:eh. i guess Obamas a terrorist too cause he drone striked so many places and killed so many innocent civilians that hed have to be classified as a terrorist.
So the US should just sit back and let this dude perform those terrrorist attacks he had planned.


Ok.
did they ever find those weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

your write up said thousands but CNNs report says hundreds. Govs lie to make people feel sympathetic to the issue.
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nick wrote:did they ever find those weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?
There weren't any, which I've said ever since, ya know, they didn't find any. And I was always against that war because there was no reason for it, so I think your "gotcha" play there really makes no sense, still not sure what you're going for.


But you're deflecting from the point now, which is telling. if your argument is that maybe this dude wasn't really a terrorist, then good luck with that one. :lol:
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i dont even know what the dude did. People are really upset in the streets of Iran. doesnt seem like something theyd do over a terrorist.
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nick wrote:i dont even know what the dude did. People are really upset in the streets of Iran. doesnt seem like something theyd do over a terrorist.
Uhh.... What?

People in the Middl3 East revered Bin Laden too, was he not a terrorist?


Iran shut down the internet for the entire country when this happened. Not to the extent I'm sure, but they control info going to their citizens much like North Korea.
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