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Nothing confirmed or reputable, but lots of smoke/rumors swirling that Iran shot down the passenger plane accidentally.


What a shitshow.
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shel311 wrote:Nothing confirmed or reputable, but lots of smoke/rumors swirling that Iran shot down the passenger plane accidentally.


What a shitshow.

I'm in that weird place where it seems like tinfoil hat time and completely possible.
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shel311 wrote:Nothing confirmed or reputable, but lots of smoke/rumors swirling that Iran shot down the passenger plane accidentally.


What a shitshow.
I don't believe that. At least from what I understand of the plane crashing. It happened on takeoff, don't see them screwing this up that much
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GeorgesGoons wrote:
shel311 wrote:Nothing confirmed or reputable, but lots of smoke/rumors swirling that Iran shot down the passenger plane accidentally.


What a shitshow.
I don't believe that. At least from what I understand of the plane crashing. It happened on takeoff, don't see them screwing this up that much
Putting a propeller on my tinfoil hat... brand new plane, Ukraine Air says it was in excellent shape, Iran refuses to turnover the box. Oh, and these images.

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For those keeping score at home... seems to be:
America: 1
Iran: -240
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60+ Canadians.
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A friend knew people who died on the plane.
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nick wrote:A friend knew people who died on the plane.
Just curious, if he isn't Muslim or a reporter what the hell was he doing in Iran?
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lol
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nick wrote:lol
I was actually being serious. I just don't see why anyone would go there. I believe they said 9 or 11 Canadians were killed in the crash


And now the Pentagon is saying Iran took down the aircraft by a Russian made SAM.
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GeorgesGoons wrote:And now the Pentagon is saying Iran took down the aircraft by a Russian made SAM.
Yep, when I posted it, I thought folks would come to that conclusion quickly, but it seemed we mostly ignored it.


The plane coming down in the same timeframe that Iran "retaliated" was just quite the coincidence.
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Why though?

it’s an Iranian flight heading to the Ukraine.

Just because to create more chaos? What’s the motivations?
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Cnasty wrote:Why though?

it’s an Iranian flight heading to the Ukraine.

Just because to create more chaos? What’s the motivations?
Soldiers are inheritingly dumb, not allowed to be free thinkers. And probably even more so in these types of countries. Poor young soldier was probably told to fire on the plane because it was thought to be a US military plane. Just my guess. I don't think Iran did this on purpose to throw some shade at the missle strike
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Interesting.

Was curiously wondering the why and motive and how it involves the US but that makes sense.
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Cnasty wrote:Why though?

it’s an Iranian flight heading to the Ukraine.

Just because to create more chaos? What’s the motivations?
Being reported as an "errant missle"

There was just no way a plane went down the same night that Iran is sending out missiles, and the 2 weren't linked.
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shel311 wrote:
Cnasty wrote:Why though?

it’s an Iranian flight heading to the Ukraine.

Just because to create more chaos? What’s the motivations?
Being reported as an "errant missle"

There was just no way a plane went down the same night that Iran is sending out missiles, and the 2 weren't linked.
But it wasn't a missle that was intended for Americans. The missles they launched had 1000lb warheads. It's being reported that it was brought down by a SA-15 portable SAM system.
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When this first happened there was a amateur video that was released that showed the plane begin ascent and then explode... Why would someone just randomly film departures from any airport?
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DRWebs wrote:When this first happened there was a amateur video that was released that showed the plane begin ascent and then explode... Why would someone just randomly film departures from any airport?
happens way more than you think. people video shit all the time for no reason.
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GeorgesGoons wrote:
nick wrote:lol
I was actually being serious. I just don't see why anyone would go there. I believe they said 9 or 11 Canadians were killed in the crash


And now the Pentagon is saying Iran took down the aircraft by a Russian made SAM.
we have these people known as Iran-Canadians who immigrated to Canada from Iran and they wanna go back home to see family.. thats why I lol'd.. you asked 2 options and the most obvious "theyre from there so they wanted to go back during the holidays" wasnt there.
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Many of the passengers were believed to be international students attending universities in Canada; they were making their way back to Toronto by way of Kyiv after visiting with family during the winter break.
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