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jsence2 wrote:

DRWebs wrote:

jsence2 wrote:

DRWebs wrote:

BIGmike wrote:Chelsea sacked Mourinho this morning.

I'd agree with someone if they told me the players weren't giving their all for Jose but honestly how much better are they with whoever replaces him at this point?

Who would give their all for a manager who keeps throwing them under the bus and never takes any responsibility for the struggles they're having?

Up until the last two games he had said that it was his responsibility for putting them in position to succeed and for their poor form... I get your a United fan but your distorted views of any team not your own are laughable

That's funny, because I'm pretty sure he was busy blaming the referees. And the schedule makers. And everyone else but himself.

Oh hey, I guess back in October when he said he had a mole in the team, that's just a distorted view too.

But what do I know? I only write about the Premier League...

Fair enough then but that wouldn't necessarily be throwing them under the bus if he blamed the referees and the way the schedule is done. I would agree that would be avoiding responsibility however. At first glance from your message about Bo Ryan and then this it just seemed like you were going to say any coach you didn't care for threw their players under the bus . Also as far as scheduling, I believe Wenger has opined for changes and from a outsider view it does seem to be a pretty grueling experience but I guess that's the price of European football (UCL, Europa)

jsence2 wrote:
But what do I know? I only write about the Premier League...

geeezus j.

DRWebs wrote: Fair enough then but that wouldn't necessarily be throwing them under the bus if he blamed the referees and the way the schedule is done. I would agree that would be avoiding responsibility however. At first glance from your message about Bo Ryan and then this it just seemed like you were going to say any coach you didn't care for threw their players under the bus . Also as far as scheduling, I believe Wenger has opined for changes and from a outsider view it does seem to be a pretty grueling experience but I guess that's the price of European football (UCL, Europa)

Understood. No, Mourinho is a whole other animal. Normally he blames EVERYONE else for his team's failures. The Premier League is out to get them, or there's a conspiracy, or the UEFA refs dislike him, etc.

This season, he's thrown his players under the bus left and right. In October, he claimed that someone on the team was leaking team info (injuries, tactics, etc) to other teams in an effort to undermine him. He benched John Terry and threw him under the bus. After they lost to Leicester on Monday, he insulted multiple players on the team. Earlier in the season, he said he was the greatest manager Chelsea ever had, and if he got sacked it would be the club "letting the players off the hook."

DRiccio21 wrote:

jsence2 wrote:
But what do I know? I only write about the Premier League...

geeezus j.

Sorry but it was like someone telling you that you don't know anything about the NBA when you follow it religiously. I spend about 20x the amount of time reading about the Premier League as I do all the other sports combined, I have to in order to do what I do.

Did come off a bit harsh, I apologize.

who they gonna get tho?

Lol, if you write about it you are an expert? Steven A. Smith is then an expert on everything he says, but does that make him right?
nick says alot of things, does that mean he is right also?

nick wrote:who they gonna get tho?

Odds are they're going to bring back Gus Hiddink to be caretaker manager. They are going to go hard after Pep Guardiola but reports are that the roster is about ten players short for his liking. Pep is either going to United or City in this offseason most likely.

The other option is Diego Simeone, the manager at Atletico Madrid. But I'm not sure he will leave there, he just signed an extension and he seems to be happy there.

cougnix wrote:Lol, if you write about it you are an expert? Steven A. Smith is then an expert on everything he says, but does that make him right?
nick says alot of things, does that mean he is right also?

this is a pretty terrible analogy even coming from an idiot like you.

nick wrote:

cougnix wrote:Lol, if you write about it you are an expert? Steven A. Smith is then an expert on everything he says, but does that make him right?
nick says alot of things, does that mean he is right also?

this is a pretty terrible analogy even coming from an idiot like you.

You don't care what I say nick, yet you always quote and reply. Too fucking easy for a stoner like you...

I am rarely serious on this forum because of you. No reason to be serious because you are just so uneducated and stupid. Keep doing your homework and smoking your weed and then trying to remember what you read.

cougnix wrote:Lol, if you write about it you are an expert? Steven A. Smith is then an expert on everything he says, but does that make him right?
nick says alot of things, does that mean he is right also?

I never said I was an expert about it because I write about it. I do my homework, I study, and that's WHY I am allowed to write about it.

It also helps that there are numerous public documented incidents to back up my claims about Mourinho and his antics.

jsence2 wrote:

cougnix wrote:Lol, if you write about it you are an expert? Steven A. Smith is then an expert on everything he says, but does that make him right?
nick says alot of things, does that mean he is right also?

I never said I was an expert about it because I write about it. I do my homework, I study, and that's WHY I am allowed to write about it.

It also helps that there are numerous public documented incidents to back up my claims about Mourinho and his antics.

I believe it. I have read your stuff you post. It's good stuff.

Oh, and in all the examples, I forgot about the whole thing with Eva Carneiro, that was the beginning of the end for him. He made a lot of people at the club angry with that.

Mourinho was clearly on his way out of Chelsea anyway... but the on-field performance isn't really on him either. That team is far too talented to be a mid-table. Everyone in that organization needs to take a chunk of the blame.

I think it comes down to Hiddink, Simeone and Antonio Conte. Ancelloti is the biggest name on the market, but he's had his run at Chelsea (yes, Jose x2, I know) but I don't see him giving it another go there. I could see him trying to slid into Bayern, knowing that Pep is on the way out. I think Pep will be coaching in Manchester next year... just not sure which side. I see it playing out as Hiddink now, Simeone getting huge pressure for the job this summer, then if he fails and Hiddink doesn't have a good finish to the season, Conte is going to get a call. That's just my take on it all.

jsence2 wrote:

DRiccio21 wrote:

jsence2 wrote:
But what do I know? I only write about the Premier League...

geeezus j.

Sorry but it was like someone telling you that you don't know anything about the NBA when you follow it religiously. I spend about 20x the amount of time reading about the Premier League as I do all the other sports combined, I have to in order to do what I do.

Did come off a bit harsh, I apologize.

i'm not foolish enough to think i'm an expert on anything.

not saying your competent or not. i understand you put the time in. just easy on the 'i know cause i'm a pro' type stuff

ReignOnU wrote:Mourinho was clearly on his way out of Chelsea anyway... but the on-field performance isn't really on him either. That team is far too talented to be a mid-table. Everyone in that organization needs to take a chunk of the blame.

I think it comes down to Hiddink, Simeone and Antonio Conte. Ancelloti is the biggest name on the market, but he's had his run at Chelsea (yes, Jose x2, I know) but I don't see him giving it another go there. I could see him trying to slid into Bayern, knowing that Pep is on the way out. I think Pep will be coaching in Manchester next year... just not sure which side. I see it playing out as Hiddink now, Simeone getting huge pressure for the job this summer, then if he fails and Hiddink doesn't have a good finish to the season, Conte is going to get a call. That's just my take on it all.

THere are serious rumors that Andriy Shevchenko is being brought in as a front office executive, so he will likely play a role. He has a tremendous relationship with Ancelloti from his time at AC Milan, so don't rule him out.

If they go Hiddink to Ancelloti with Shevchenko in the mix again, I'd find that quite funny.

Very interesting quote from him earlier this season about a 19 year old youth player who had a rough match:

With Ruben, it’s one step back in terms of my relationship with him. If he doesn’t know what it means to play for me and Chelsea, it’s one step back. Ruben has to learn that, at 19, you have to run three times as much as the other guys and you have to play to your limits. You don’t have to play like a superstar with the ball at your feet because this is not the Under-18s. That competition is too easy for him. He’s too good for it, but I don’t accept that a player … when we don’t have the ball, doesn’t press, doesn’t have intensity and is waiting for other people to recover the ball. I don’t accept that of superstars, so why should I accept it in a 19-year-old kid? He has to learn what it takes to play for us.

Nineteen years old, a youth player. Being blasted after his first bad performance of the season.

There's a reason that Mourinho always fails in his third season at a club. As Demba Ba said earlier today:

'When he loses, you feel as if the sky as fallen on his head'

'It's rare for him to do three years in a row. For a player, it's so tiring, exhausting'.

'He pushes his players to the limit to see what they've got in them. It's up to you alone to gain confidence again if you lose it.'

Guys like Hazard and Cesc have lost all confidence, and that quote is very telling.

ReignOnU wrote:If they go Hiddink to Ancelloti with Shevchenko in the mix again, I'd find that quite funny.

A lot of quiet rumors lately that United will go after Carlo, who Ronaldo loves playing for. Would be perfect

I think Pep is the likely target, but I wouldn't be mad with him or Carlo. I do think Mourniho is going to be in the mix. Personally, I can live with that also. The only other manager I'd be interested in is possibly Simeone, but I don't see that happening. I don't believe either side is interested.

jsence2 wrote:

ReignOnU wrote:If they go Hiddink to Ancelloti with Shevchenko in the mix again, I'd find that quite funny.

A lot of quiet rumors lately that United will go after Carlo, who Ronaldo loves playing for. Would be perfect

why would ronaldo come back to united when he can go to psg. the premier league is too strong top to bottom and he would have to work for 25 goals when he can go to psg play legit bottom feeders and score 40 goals.