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Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:42 am
by ajalves
in his pre game interview it looked like Randy Shannon had a bullet hole in his forehead

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:09 am
by Nole4real
ajalves wrote:in his pre game interview it looked like Randy Shannon had a bullet hole in his forehead
LOL, yes it did. Those pregame HD cameras werent kind to anyone. Reece Davis looked like he went from being 30 something to being ready for an old folks home.

Lou looked yellowish

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:18 am
by Nole4real
Cnasty wrote:
VeniVediV1ci wrote:(although i do love BB he didn't even look sad in the post game press conference)
Its because honestly he has no idea whats going on out there. Its sad to see with such a legend.There was a play when they didnt take the penalty and he asked his headset guy whats going on or why they didnt take the penalty.

Just him being there though is good for for the university. Doesnt really matter, Fisher is pretty much the coach anyways. Will be interesting to see who takes Andrews spot.
I was always laugh a little when I see people saying this.

I have to think where have you been for the past 25 years???!! have you not seen a BB interview? lol, Bobby hasnt called the plays since the 80's and ALWAYS has been in a constant state of beffudlement :lol:

Do you not see that replay they show from the 80's from the 1st wide right when had that dumbfounded/confused look on his face :lol:

Bobby is Bobby...its just now you can point to his age as the cause of him "now knowing whats going on"...again, check out any interview from the 90's when we were winning...he's the SAME WAY lol

Thats Bobby. hadnt changed, doesnt need to.

He's NEVER been the greatest gameday coach but everything else he brings to the table outweighs that.

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:22 am
by texasfan4444
Bobby Light goin' to treat you right.

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Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:24 am
by ajalves
Nole4real wrote: Do you not see that replay they show from the 80's from the 1st wide right when had that dumbfounded/confused look on his face :lol:

pure gold

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:47 am
by walker213
TiVo officially blows. I cannot believe I forgot to record the program after the Miami/FSU game. I started watching it today only for it to cut out with ten minutes left in the fourth quarter :evil:

If anyone knows when a replay will show, please let me know.

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:55 am
by ChampDizzle
just finished watching the game and glad I recorded it. Instant classic indeed. I hate Greg Reid, only because he choose FSU over UGA. He looked short though but great playmaker. Man, Miami has speed everywhere. Benjamin and Cooper are impact players indeed. I am happy for Shannon. Don't quote me but I actually hope the Canes do well and possibly win the ACC because of Shannon. JaCory Harris played his heart out, good for him. Future looks bright for the Canes indeed.

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:58 am
by texasfan4444
ChampDizzle wrote:just finished watching the game and glad I recorded it. Instant classic indeed. I hate Greg Reid, only because he choose FSU over UGA. He looked short though but great playmaker. Man, Miami has speed everywhere. Benjamin and Cooper are impact players indeed. I am happy for Shannon. Don't quote me but I actually hope the Canes do well and possibly win the ACC because of Shannon. JaCory Harris played his heart out, good for him. Future looks bright for the Canes indeed.

Yeh man.. Harris fits that mold of Vince Young. Some of the last second escapes he had relaly reminded me of Vince scrambling out of the pocket. I hope he can stay healthy because he has a chance to do big things.

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:01 pm
by ajalves
he has to bulk up a little...

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:12 pm
by BIGmike
ChampDizzle wrote:just finished watching the game and glad I recorded it. Instant classic indeed. I hate Greg Reid, only because he choose FSU over UGA. He looked short though but great playmaker. Man, Miami has speed everywhere. Benjamin and Cooper are impact players indeed. I am happy for Shannon. Don't quote me but I actually hope the Canes do well and possibly win the ACC because of Shannon. JaCory Harris played his heart out, good for him. Future looks bright for the Canes indeed.
How Reid ended up qualifying is beyond me. :lol: He was the first verbal commit for the 09 class and then the week of the UA game Tubberville tells kids they shouldn't commit early to schools and he decommits and things got wacky. He was a long shot to qualify, but it would have been nice to send him to prep school for a semester or so and have him count as part of the 2010 class.

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:13 pm
by BIGmike
Also, the Bobby Bowden show featuring Burt Reynolds might be the funniest show of all-time. :lol:

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:23 pm
by Nole4real
walker213 wrote:
If anyone knows when a replay will show, please let me know.

tonight on espn classic

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:34 pm
by jsence2
packsyD22 wrote:You need the TIME. You spike it, then it's THIRD down. You need the downs and the time in that situation. Then you still have the option to run it on that first play. You try to get as many chances as you can.
Lemme ask you something..........if you call a timeout there and take a sack or run the option play on first down what are they gonna do on second and third down, spike it anyway or let more time run down. [/quote]

But it WASN'T first down! They ran that option on second down. That's my point. But no matter, they shouldn't have wasted all that damn time.

Also, don't dog the kid too much. If you watch the replay in super-slow-mo, the ball actually hit his HELMET. It didn't go into his chest and then he dropped it, it hit him in the head, came down into his hands as he was going down. That's always going to be a very awkward and tough grab. If it goes straight into his chest/hands, I think he holds on.

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:47 pm
by walker213
texasfan4444 wrote:
ChampDizzle wrote:just finished watching the game and glad I recorded it. Instant classic indeed. I hate Greg Reid, only because he choose FSU over UGA. He looked short though but great playmaker. Man, Miami has speed everywhere. Benjamin and Cooper are impact players indeed. I am happy for Shannon. Don't quote me but I actually hope the Canes do well and possibly win the ACC because of Shannon. JaCory Harris played his heart out, good for him. Future looks bright for the Canes indeed.

Yeh man.. Harris fits that mold of Vince Young. Some of the last second escapes he had relaly reminded me of Vince scrambling out of the pocket. I hope he can stay healthy because he has a chance to do big things.
Harris is vastly different from Vince Young. Jacory is a pure passer who just happens to have decent speed. He can't scramble like VY could, but VY can't dice defenses up like Jacory can.

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:55 pm
by texasfan4444
walker213 wrote:
texasfan4444 wrote:
ChampDizzle wrote:just finished watching the game and glad I recorded it. Instant classic indeed. I hate Greg Reid, only because he choose FSU over UGA. He looked short though but great playmaker. Man, Miami has speed everywhere. Benjamin and Cooper are impact players indeed. I am happy for Shannon. Don't quote me but I actually hope the Canes do well and possibly win the ACC because of Shannon. JaCory Harris played his heart out, good for him. Future looks bright for the Canes indeed.

Yeh man.. Harris fits that mold of Vince Young. Some of the last second escapes he had relaly reminded me of Vince scrambling out of the pocket. I hope he can stay healthy because he has a chance to do big things.
Harris is vastly different from Vince Young. Jacory is a pure passer who just happens to have decent speed. He can't scramble like VY could, but VY can't dice defenses up like Jacory can.
I respectfully disagree. Some of those last second spins to free himself up were moves right out of the VY playbook. Also the delivery was different but Vince was in the top 5 of Texas Qbs...
Young reached a win/loss record as a starter of 30–2, ranking him #1 of all UT quarterbacks by number of wins. His .938 winning percentage as a starting quarterback ranks sixth best in Division I history. Young’s career passing completion percentage is the best in UT history, 60.8%. During his career at Texas (2003-05), Young passed for 6,040 yards (No. 5 in UT history) and 44 TDs (No. 4 in UT history) while rushing for 3,127 yards (No. 1 on UT’s all-time QB rushing list/No. 7 on UT’s all-time list) and 37 TDs (No. 5 on UT’s all-time rushing TDs list/Tied for No. 1 among QBs
I beleive those numbers support the fact he wasnt just a running Qb he was passer who could run as well.

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:25 pm
by walker213
Numbers don't tell the full story. Are you honestly trying to say Vince Young was a great passing quarterback in college?..

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:50 pm
by texasfan4444
Yes, he was a great dual threat QB. He ammased many 300+ yard passing games as well as many 200 yard rushing games. Hes #5 in Texas's most passing yards in a season...

Top 10 yards (single season)
1. Colt McCoy________________________________________3,859 (2008)
2. Major Applewhite___________________________________3,357 (1999)
3. Colt McCoy________________________________________3,303 (2007)
4. Chris Simms_______________________________________3,207 (2002)
5. Vince Young_______________________________________3,036 (2005)

Top five fastest to 2,000 yards (single season)
1. Major Applewhite_________________________________7 games (1999)
2. Colt McCoy______________________________________8 games (2008)
Colt McCoy______________________________________8 games (2007)
Major Applewhite_________________________________8 games (2000)
3. Vince Young_____________________________________9 games (2005)
Chris Simms_____________________________________9 games (2002)
Chris Simms_____________________________________9 games (2001)
James Brown_____________________________________9 games (1995)
Peter Gardere_____________________________________9 games (1992)

Top five touchdown passes (single season)
1. Colt McCoy__________________________________________34 (2008)
2. Colt McCoy__________________________________________29 (2006)
3. Vince Young_________________________________________26 (2005)
Chris Simms_________________________________________26 (2002)
5. Colt McCoy__________________________________________22 (2007)
Chris Simms_________________________________________22 (2001)


I dont see how you couldnt give him credit for being a great college passer. His numbers support it. He wasnt the best passer in the world but to say he wasnt a great passer seems a little out of place to me.

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:03 pm
by jsence2
texasfan4444 wrote:Yes, he was a great dual threat QB. He ammased many 300+ yard passing games as well as many 200 yard rushing games. Hes #5 in Texas's most passing yards in a season...

Top 10 yards (single season)
1. Colt McCoy________________________________________3,859 (2008)
2. Major Applewhite___________________________________3,357 (1999)
3. Colt McCoy________________________________________3,303 (2007)
4. Chris Simms_______________________________________3,207 (2002)
5. Vince Young_______________________________________3,036 (2005)

Top five fastest to 2,000 yards (single season)
1. Major Applewhite_________________________________7 games (1999)
2. Colt McCoy______________________________________8 games (2008)
Colt McCoy______________________________________8 games (2007)
Major Applewhite_________________________________8 games (2000)
3. Vince Young_____________________________________9 games (2005)
Chris Simms_____________________________________9 games (2002)
Chris Simms_____________________________________9 games (2001)
James Brown_____________________________________9 games (1995)
Peter Gardere_____________________________________9 games (1992)

Top five touchdown passes (single season)
1. Colt McCoy__________________________________________34 (2008)
2. Colt McCoy__________________________________________29 (2006)
3. Vince Young_________________________________________26 (2005)
Chris Simms_________________________________________26 (2002)
5. Colt McCoy__________________________________________22 (2007)
Chris Simms_________________________________________22 (2001)


I dont see how you couldnt give him credit for being a great college passer. His numbers support it. He wasnt the best passer in the world but to say he wasnt a great passer seems a little out of place to me.
You're acting like Texas' QBs have lit up the skies. I see the same three or four names on those records' lists, and none of them (not counting McCoy) have really done anything beyond college, which stands to reason they put up gaudy numbers thanks to their system (all in the late 90s and 2000's, go figure). UT's put out better rushers than passers.

Also, I'd be very interested to see how many of Young's "passing yards" were yards after catch. Young's accuracy is crap, he got by with it in college but he also got a lot of short passes busted for big gains, and he also got a lot of easy throws due to pulling defenders in with the threat of the run to the edge. There's a reason Young can't do dick in the NFL.

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:14 pm
by walker213
I'll just let jsence take over because he seems to understand that Vince Young's passing abilities are overrated.

Re: Thug U vs Criminoles

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:36 pm
by texasfan4444
walker213 wrote:I'll just let jsence take over because he seems to understand that Vince Young's passing abilities are overrated.


Guys, im not saying hes a Dan Marino Jim Kelley or a Joe Montana. Nor am I saying that he will be a great passer in the pros. Quite frankly he doesnt have the mental game for that. And yes the reason his passing numbers were what they were was becasue he could run. But he had a gun, he was accurate for a college QB and he won games. By no means was he a Colt Brennan or a Graham Harrell but with your reasoning they should be counted either becasue of the system they played in.

All this started becasue I stated Harris had escape-ability like VY did back in College. You guys can choose to disagree, just saying the numbers back up that he was a good passer.