Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:47 am
its also funny how i have said and think Kobe is one of the top 25 best players who has ever lived... have said that on here about a million times... yet i still 'only' hate on him.
Hatin if you don't say top 5.DRiccio21 wrote:its also funny how i have said and think Kobe is one of the top 25 best players who has ever lived... have said that on here about a million times... yet i still 'only' hate on him.
brwnbear wrote:Im pretty clueless on NBA, having not watched more than 20 games since Jordan left Chicago. Here is something I wondered.
If LeBron has a Grant Hill type of career going forward, never able to play more than 15 games a year, does he make it into the Hall of Fame?
LeBron never needs to play another minute and he's a first ballot hall of famer by any objective measure.brwnbear wrote:Im pretty clueless on NBA, having not watched more than 20 games since Jordan left Chicago. Here is something I wondered.
If LeBron has a Grant Hill type of career going forward, never able to play more than 15 games a year, does he make it into the Hall of Fame?
I am not minimizing LeBron's accomplishments in any way, but I would think that if LeBron never won a championship (I think he will), then he would have to leapfrog Marino on the Dan Marino list (did that make sense?). Marino never played defense and was only half responsible for his team vs. LeBron who is on the floor 95% of the time.Cnasty wrote:Dan Marinoesque
Thats what I thought, plus, I didnt realize he was playing in his 9th year already.DRiccio21 wrote: LeBron never needs to play another minute and he's a first ballot hall of famer by any objective measure.
i get the point you're trying to make. but he's not on the floor anywhere close to 95% of the time.brwnbear wrote:I am not minimizing LeBron's accomplishments in any way, but I would think that if LeBron never won a championship (I think he will), then he would have to leapfrog Marino on the Dan Marino list (did that make sense?). Marino never played defense and was only half responsible for his team vs. LeBron who is on the floor 95% of the time.Cnasty wrote:Dan Marinoesque
To most, Kobe.brwnbear wrote:Ok what about a comparison between Kobe and LeBron (if both stopped playing today). Which one would rank higher?
Technically, there is no right answer. I don't even know the difference in scoring averages, but you gotta look at how much more Kobe shoots than Lebron. And as for titles, people just differ in their opinions, but I think they're supremely overrated when judging an individual. There's too much that that individual can't control to make them very meaningful...like spending 7 years in Cleveland with Mo Williams as the best sidekick you ever had vs going to a team as a rookie with Shaq basically having all his prime years ahead of him.brwnbear wrote:The amateur in me would say Kobe due to his higher scoring average and championships. But I am not sure that is the right answer
Lebron is better, but if you wanna win titles, you play with Kobe.DRiccio21 wrote:You can't win with just those guys individually but no other player puts you in a position to win more than them
shel311 wrote:Lebron is better, but if you wanna win titles, you play with Kobe.DRiccio21 wrote:You can't win with just those guys individually but no other player puts you in a position to win more than them
Signed,
Larry Bird
Let's rehash that one.
it depends what you're asking.brwnbear wrote:Thats what I thought, plus, I didnt realize he was playing in his 9th year already.DRiccio21 wrote: LeBron never needs to play another minute and he's a first ballot hall of famer by any objective measure.
Ok what about a comparison between Kobe and LeBron (if both stopped playing today). Which one would rank higher?
- Kobe - has the larger numbers due to a longer career and being on more talented championship teams.
- LeBron - more dominant in his all around game.
The amateur in me would say Kobe due to his higher scoring average and championships. But I am not sure that is the right answer.
Once again, saying I'm twisting words when I'm basically quoting a guy.ajalves wrote:shel311 wrote:Lebron is better, but if you wanna win titles, you play with Kobe.DRiccio21 wrote:You can't win with just those guys individually but no other player puts you in a position to win more than them
Signed,
Larry Bird
Let's rehash that one.
once again, twisting words