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Nope, I fully understand why people say black matters and it's shitty to come back with "all lives matter" so you whiffed yet again.

You're falling apart, man.

This is not a good look for you.



But hey, keep supporting looting and ruining people's livelihoods while telling others they're part of the problem if they don't support that. Good luck with that.
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shel311 wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:05 pm Nope, I fully understand why people say black matters and it's shitty to come back with "all lives matter" so you whiffed yet again.

You're falling apart, man.

This is not a good look for you.



But hey, keep supporting looting and ruining people's livelihoods while telling others they're part of the problem if they don't support that. Good luck with that.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Quite literally no one is supporting anything you've decided to equate with wanting to understand the issues behind the protests, looting, and rioting......
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So you agree that it's not ok to try and justify burning businesses downs and ruining people's livelihoods?


Again, thanks for finally agreeing with me. That was the very first response I made, you took issue with that, so I'm glad to see you now agree with me yet again.



You also keep wanting to incorrectly think that me stating that it's bad to burn businesses downs and ruin people's livelihoods means I don't understand why they're protesting. That is illogical and makes no sense.


Not sure if you noticed, I didn't take exception to a Youtube video of someone saying they were going to peacefully protest and gather 1000s of people every single day to go to City Hall or the local PD or wherever and protest until change is made. That's not what I took issue with, you seem to be missing that.
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If America just peacefully protested with Britain you guys would still be part of the UK. Sometimes you gotta damage businesses til ppl finally get the picture. Peaceful protests would of done fuck all.
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nick wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:56 pm If America just peacefully protested with Britain you guys would still be part of the UK. Sometimes you gotta damage businesses til ppl finally get the picture. Peaceful protests would of done fuck all.
Protest /= War
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shel311 wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:34 pm So you agree that it's not ok to try and justify burning businesses downs and ruining people's livelihoods?
Once again recognizing the reason behind it is not justifying it. I don't understand why we keep going around in circles on this point.
shel311 wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:34 pm
You also keep wanting to incorrectly think that me stating that it's bad to burn businesses downs and ruin people's livelihoods means I don't understand why they're protesting. That is illogical and makes no sense.
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That is exactly what you are doing 🤦 thus why you aren't making much sense. The looting and systemic problems are directly correlated with each other are they not?

You keep stating the obvious that looting is bad and ignoring the much more complex and bigger issue that if we fix there is no looting to begin with...... That is what I was trying to open a discussion about and what the woman was speaking about.
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Props to Reign, that diagram summed it up perfectly.

Crowes and Smitty, hopefully you 2 can look at that and comprehend how logical that graph is.
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Crowes wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:03 pm That is exactly what you are doing
Just randomly saying things doesn't make your random statement correct.

I understand why they're looting and rioting. There, that alone makes your statement incorrect.

Move the goalpost on to the next thing, we can close the loop on that one, you're wrong on it, move on.
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ReignOnU wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:58 pm
nick wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:56 pm If America just peacefully protested with Britain you guys would still be part of the UK. Sometimes you gotta damage businesses til ppl finally get the picture. Peaceful protests would of done fuck all.
Protest /= War
After 1765, growing political differences concerning mounting taxes without colonial representation in Parliament strained the relationship between Great Britain and its American colonies and fueled the resentment that led to the American Revolution. Patriot protests against taxation without representation followed the Stamp Act and escalated into boycotts, which culminated in 1773 with the Sons of Liberty
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You gotta get shit done.. sometimes you gotta burn a couple buildings.. Black people could just go out and kill cops if they wanted and shit would be way worse than a couple insured buildings getting burned down + the millions in free advertising they get for their store because of the incident being televised and the community coming together to help yada yada.

Best quote ive seen is White people should just be happy that Black people want to be equal and don't want revenge.
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shel311 wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:05 pm
Crowes wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:03 pm That is exactly what you are doing
Just randomly saying things doesn't make your random statement correct.

I understand why they're looting and rioting. There, that alone makes your statement incorrect.

Move the goalpost on to the next thing, we can close the loop on that one, you're wrong on it, move on.
You would be correct if that was only sentence in the post.. :lol:

Did ur blinders delete the rest of the post?

You assumed I and the woman were saying the looting was justifiied.

I assume you don't understand why the looting was happening.

They are one in the same
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nick wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:11 pm than a couple insured buildings getting burned down + the millions in free advertising they get for their store because of the incident being televised and the community coming together to help yada yada.
nick thinks they're only burning down Targetes and not locally owned small businesses, and he also thinks insurance makes all the problems magically go away and the small businesses will just get insurance money, rebuild and pickup where things left off without skipping a beat.
nick wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:11 pm Best quote ive seen is White people should just be happy that Black people want to be equal and don't want revenge.
Well, everyone is lucky if that's the case, because neither side would win if that happened.
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Do we have the numbers on how many businesses were looted that supported BLM vs that didn't?

I'll even flip it more.. I dont feel bad for a business that got looted that probably has #AllLivesMatter on their FB.

If businesses that directly supported the movement got hit then I'd be mad.. But I wanna bet that wasnt really the case
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nick wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:33 pm I'll even flip it more.. I dont feel bad for a business that got looted that probably has #AllLivesMatter on their FB.

If businesses that directly supported the movement got hit then I'd be mad.. But I wanna bet that wasnt really the case
What? Good thing that's not an actual bet, you'd be losing that one.

You think protestors are going to the suburbs or the "white" towns and burning businesses there and not protesting in neighborhoods more closely in location to where they live?

https://www.fox29.com/news/looting-forc ... s-to-food
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the Pennsylvania story is your go to eh.. Feel like this was brought up pages back.
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"The part of the city residents have referred to as a “food desert” has been left without access to some of their already few food and drug stores Tuesday morning."

sounds to me like theres an even bigger issue here in Pennsylvania with how they treated these areas that already had low access to food? Good thing the protests brought to light how its already a "food desert" pre protests
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nick wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:38 pm the Pennsylvania story is your go to eh.. Feel like this was brought up pages back.
https://www.businessinsider.com/black-o ... ity-2020-6



Go on, move the goalposts. I'll be waiting.
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nick wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:39 pm "The part of the city residents have referred to as a “food desert” has been left without access to some of their already few food and drug stores Tuesday morning."

sounds to me like theres an even bigger issue here in Pennsylvania with how they treated these areas that already had low access to food? Good thing the protests brought to light how its already a "food desert" pre protests
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https://www.chestnuthilllocal.com/2020/ ... residents/

good did come of it. Keep laughing Shel..
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