College Football 2014

[Seeitsaveit13]

I don't know why, but I'm just not seeing Jameis as a good Pro QB. I may be way off, but I don't think he's worthy of a top 10 pick, and I don't think he'll have much if any success in the pros. I guess we'll find out

If he gets past all the character screening the NFL is going to do on him during combine/draft time, he will have a chance to be serviceable. (see Josh Freeman) However, my gut feeling is that he fucks up even before the draft.

It wasn't even necessarily a character evaluation type of thing. I just don't think he has the mental makeup combined with his physical tools to get the job done.

[Whittness10]

I don't know why, but I'm just not seeing Jameis as a good Pro QB. I may be way off, but I don't think he's worthy of a top 10 pick, and I don't think he'll have much if any success in the pros. I guess we'll find out

If he gets past all the character screening the NFL is going to do on him during combine/draft time, he will have a chance to be serviceable. (see Josh Freeman) However, my gut feeling is that he fucks up even before the draft.

It wasn't even necessarily a character evaluation type of thing. I just don't think he has the mental makeup combined with his physical tools to get the job done.

My gut feeling is that he'll be the second coming of JaMarcus Russell.

[texasfan4444]

precisely what I said up there...

[jsence2]

I have no idea why Oregon kept going back to the run. Their hurry up, pass offense, seemed to be working.

They're a run team. You have to stick with what you think you do best. I think Mariota hurt his draft stock last night and got exposed as a product of a system. The Buckeyes played a great game defensively and took away the short passing/bubble screen game that he relies on. He has a lot of talent though and I hope he does well. He seems like a good kid.

He threw for 300 yards, and would've topped 400 if guys hadn't dropped passes. How exactly did he hurt his draft stock?

[jsence2]

This!... Those two drops in the first few series really seemed to hurt the confidence of the coaching staff in sticking with the pass and seemed to change the way they called the game. Oregon missing their top 3/4 WR TE threats didn't help that either.

26-36 338 72.2& 2 TD 1 INT - INT was late in desperation. I dont think its a big assumption to say 400 was with in reach. Not to mention his biggest WR threat was a converted RB and a gimpy TE.

Do I think his stock dropped? yes, a little. but not because he was exposed, just simply because he wasn't able to will his way into the Win like he had in the past. Just lost a little bit of the allure and mystique he had circling around him. I still think he goes in the 10-15 range as there are teams with a huge need at QB.

Frankly, That Ohio State D played about as perfect as you can hope against a team like that. They should be Co-Mvps with Zeke IMO.

Was just having a conversation with a co-worker aobut his and we believe that he was exposed.
Now NFL scouts will question and put him under a microscope for his pocket presence. Not that they wouldn't have anyways, but it brought light to it, we feel.
Most know that running QB's don't work too well in the NFL. Unless you are a pocket, pass QB first and run when needed.

Missing his #1 target
Missing his #1 tight end
His #2 TE got hurt early in the game and could barely cut most of the time

How did he get exposed again? He stood in under pressure and delivered some strikes, he didn't make any bad decisions, and he had guys dropping passes on him.

[OracleHCR]

I did miss most of the first half. What were you watching late in the game during crunch time when he was missing open receivers and failing to move the ball at all? At all. Granted he did get injured for a bit but in the fourth quarter he did nothing. Nada. He was rattled and was inaccurate. In the games that Oregon has lost the past couple years it has been the same story with him. That will hurt his draft stock.

[shel311]

In the games that Oregon has lost the past couple years it has been the same story with him.

Run game and stopping the run.

[OracleHCR]

Very true. But he hasn't shown composure late in games when trailing. He has come back from deficits early in games.
I like him and hope he does well. I believe he is a product of a system and running a play every 12 seconds.

[jsence2]

I did miss most of the first half. What were you watching late in the game during crunch time when he was missing open receivers and failing to move the ball at all? At all. Granted he did get injured for a bit but in the fourth quarter he did nothing. Nada. He was rattled and was inaccurate. In the games that Oregon has lost the past couple years it has been the same story with him. That will hurt his draft stock.

Most of his throws where he was "missing" were throws to his TE, who turned his ankle severely in the first quarter (and how he kept playing I've no idea). Oregon's offense has a lot of timing routes. The throws in the final minutes, he was having to force things. One or two drives won't hurt his stock the way you think. He's got a whole body of work, he's going to have the combine, etc, and that will ahve a bigger impact than one game where he was missing weapons.

[fsupenguin]

I don't see it. While he had overall good numbers passing last night, I don't think he has much chance to be an NFL QB of any worth.

[The_Niddler]

I don't see it. While he had overall good numbers passing last night, I don't think he has much chance to be an NFL QB of any worth.

Do you think Winston does?
Not trying to knock Winston, but I think Mariota has much more of a chance.

[fsupenguin]

I don't see it. While he had overall good numbers passing last night, I don't think he has much chance to be an NFL QB of any worth.

Do you think Winston does?
Not trying to knock Winston, but I think Mariota has much more of a chance.

In Winston I see the potential to have a Big Ben type of game, big guy who is hard to bring down, can scramble a bit and has a strong arm. Falling in the draft might be the best thing for him, so he can be a backup for a few years and have a chance to learn and refine his game, but if he is a high pick and put out on the field right away it might be very short lived. In Mariota I see RG3, tries to run when he should throw is away sometimes and will get hurt for sure. While he looks good passing a times, plenty of the time he is not spot on and has only gotten away with it because the defenders are busy having to watch if he will try to run it. With my Bucs having the #1 pick, I'm honesty hoping they draft neither of them.

[OracleHCR]

They need to trade for picks and build their line. It doesn't matter who they have back there with the current sieve they have.

[LetsGoPeay]

I don't see it. While he had overall good numbers passing last night, I don't think he has much chance to be an NFL QB of any worth.

Do you think Winston does?
Not trying to knock Winston, but I think Mariota has much more of a chance.

In Winston I see the potential to have a Big Ben type of game, big guy who is hard to bring down, can scramble a bit and has a strong arm. Falling in the draft might be the best thing for him, so he can be a backup for a few years and have a chance to learn and refine his game, but if he is a high pick and put out on the field right away it might be very short lived.

That's a pretty interesting player to compare him to.

[fsupenguin]

Congrats on being the millionth person to make that joke.

[LetsGoPeay]

Congrats on being the millionth person to make that joke.

Thanks!

[packsyd2284]

Oracle saying the guy hurt his draft stock last night but "I didn't see the first half." Hahahahaha

[OracleHCR]

I did see the first half but missed the first quarter. You misquoted me dipshit. I know English isnt your strong suit but still. In the second half after his first pass he was a no show. His first Interception was not his fault but he still didn't do dick in crunch time.

[jsence2]

I don't see it. While he had overall good numbers passing last night, I don't think he has much chance to be an NFL QB of any worth.

Do you think Winston does?
Not trying to knock Winston, but I think Mariota has much more of a chance.

In Winston I see the potential to have a Big Ben type of game, big guy who is hard to bring down, can scramble a bit and has a strong arm. Falling in the draft might be the best thing for him, so he can be a backup for a few years and have a chance to learn and refine his game, but if he is a high pick and put out on the field right away it might be very short lived.

That's a pretty interesting player to compare him to.

My thoughts exactly

[jsence2]

I did see the first half but missed the first quarter. You misquoted me dipshit. I know English isnt your strong suit but still. In the second half after his first pass he was a no show. His first Interception was not his fault but he still didn't do dick in crunch time.

You mean his only interception?

You realize that the QB isn't the only guy involved in "crunch time", right? The line has to give him time (often wasn't), the WRs have to get open and HOLD ON to the passes (they weren't), and the coach has to call plays that beat the defensive looks they're giving (they weren't....did they even run a single screen when OSU kept blitzing?). The QB can't just go "ok, I'm gonna win this game". He wasn't forcing a lot of throws or making bad decisions, which is what a QB who WASN'T good would do. He threw it away and knew he had another down or two to work with.