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texasfan4444 wrote:

Seeitsaveit13 wrote:I don't know why, but I'm just not seeing Jameis as a good Pro QB. I may be way off, but I don't think he's worthy of a top 10 pick, and I don't think he'll have much if any success in the pros. I guess we'll find out

If he gets past all the character screening the NFL is going to do on him during combine/draft time, he will have a chance to be serviceable. (see Josh Freeman) However, my gut feeling is that he fucks up even before the draft.

Seeitsaveit13 wrote:

texasfan4444 wrote:

Seeitsaveit13 wrote:I don't know why, but I'm just not seeing Jameis as a good Pro QB. I may be way off, but I don't think he's worthy of a top 10 pick, and I don't think he'll have much if any success in the pros. I guess we'll find out

If he gets past all the character screening the NFL is going to do on him during combine/draft time, he will have a chance to be serviceable. (see Josh Freeman) However, my gut feeling is that he fucks up even before the draft.

It wasn't even necessarily a character evaluation type of thing. I just don't think he has the mental makeup combined with his physical tools to get the job done.

OracleHCR wrote:

The_Niddler wrote:
I have no idea why Oregon kept going back to the run. Their hurry up, pass offense, seemed to be working.

They're a run team. You have to stick with what you think you do best. I think Mariota hurt his draft stock last night and got exposed as a product of a system. The Buckeyes played a great game defensively and took away the short passing/bubble screen game that he relies on. He has a lot of talent though and I hope he does well. He seems like a good kid.

The_Niddler wrote:

texasfan4444 wrote:This!... Those two drops in the first few series really seemed to hurt the confidence of the coaching staff in sticking with the pass and seemed to change the way they called the game. Oregon missing their top 3/4 WR TE threats didn't help that either.

26-36 338 72.2& 2 TD 1 INT - INT was late in desperation. I dont think its a big assumption to say 400 was with in reach. Not to mention his biggest WR threat was a converted RB and a gimpy TE.

Do I think his stock dropped? yes, a little. but not because he was exposed, just simply because he wasn't able to will his way into the Win like he had in the past. Just lost a little bit of the allure and mystique he had circling around him. I still think he goes in the 10-15 range as there are teams with a huge need at QB.

Frankly, That Ohio State D played about as perfect as you can hope against a team like that. They should be Co-Mvps with Zeke IMO.

Was just having a conversation with a co-worker aobut his and we believe that he was exposed.
Now NFL scouts will question and put him under a microscope for his pocket presence. Not that they wouldn't have anyways, but it brought light to it, we feel.
Most know that running QB's don't work too well in the NFL. Unless you are a pocket, pass QB first and run when needed.

OracleHCR wrote: In the games that Oregon has lost the past couple years it has been the same story with him.

OracleHCR wrote:I did miss most of the first half. What were you watching late in the game during crunch time when he was missing open receivers and failing to move the ball at all? At all. Granted he did get injured for a bit but in the fourth quarter he did nothing. Nada. He was rattled and was inaccurate. In the games that Oregon has lost the past couple years it has been the same story with him. That will hurt his draft stock.

fsupenguin wrote:I don't see it. While he had overall good numbers passing last night, I don't think he has much chance to be an NFL QB of any worth.

The_Niddler wrote:

fsupenguin wrote:I don't see it. While he had overall good numbers passing last night, I don't think he has much chance to be an NFL QB of any worth.

Do you think Winston does?
Not trying to knock Winston, but I think Mariota has much more of a chance.

fsupenguin wrote:

The_Niddler wrote:

fsupenguin wrote:I don't see it. While he had overall good numbers passing last night, I don't think he has much chance to be an NFL QB of any worth.

Do you think Winston does?
Not trying to knock Winston, but I think Mariota has much more of a chance.

In Winston I see the potential to have a Big Ben type of game, big guy who is hard to bring down, can scramble a bit and has a strong arm. Falling in the draft might be the best thing for him, so he can be a backup for a few years and have a chance to learn and refine his game, but if he is a high pick and put out on the field right away it might be very short lived.

fsupenguin wrote:Congrats on being the millionth person to make that joke.

LetsGoPeay wrote:

fsupenguin wrote:

The_Niddler wrote:

fsupenguin wrote:I don't see it. While he had overall good numbers passing last night, I don't think he has much chance to be an NFL QB of any worth.

Do you think Winston does?
Not trying to knock Winston, but I think Mariota has much more of a chance.

In Winston I see the potential to have a Big Ben type of game, big guy who is hard to bring down, can scramble a bit and has a strong arm. Falling in the draft might be the best thing for him, so he can be a backup for a few years and have a chance to learn and refine his game, but if he is a high pick and put out on the field right away it might be very short lived.

That's a pretty interesting player to compare him to.

OracleHCR wrote:I did see the first half but missed the first quarter. You misquoted me dipshit. I know English isnt your strong suit but still. In the second half after his first pass he was a no show. His first Interception was not his fault but he still didn't do dick in crunch time.