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Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:33 pm
by Matt90210
Why are the Rockets going so hard for Dwight? He's not gonna sign an extension there and they aren't winning it all next year with him.

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:39 pm
by nick
Matt90210 wrote:Why are the Rockets going so hard for Dwight? He's not gonna sign an extension there and they aren't winning it all next year with him.
cause a sign and trade is still valuable. Get 1 yr otuta dwight, bump up attendance/sales, and then move him to brooklyn in the offseason in a s&t for multiple picks/players.

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:27 pm
by Block M
nick wrote:
Matt90210 wrote:Why are the Rockets going so hard for Dwight? He's not gonna sign an extension there and they aren't winning it all next year with him.
cause a sign and trade is still valuable. Get 1 yr otuta dwight, bump up attendance/sales, and then move him to brooklyn in the offseason in a s&t for multiple picks/players.
Why would Brooklyn do a sign and trade when they know they'll get Dwight regardless?

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:51 pm
by nick
Block M wrote:
nick wrote:
Matt90210 wrote:Why are the Rockets going so hard for Dwight? He's not gonna sign an extension there and they aren't winning it all next year with him.
cause a sign and trade is still valuable. Get 1 yr otuta dwight, bump up attendance/sales, and then move him to brooklyn in the offseason in a s&t for multiple picks/players.
Why would Brooklyn do a sign and trade when they know they'll get Dwight regardless?
cause due to bird rights Houston can offer him more money than any other team (1 more year). so why would howard want say 5 yrs when he can get 6?

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:12 pm
by shel311

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:46 pm
by Matt90210
shel311 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8DupGuo78w[/youtube]

Saw that earlier today. Good stuff :lol:


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFGA9eWsTZk[/youtube]

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:17 pm
by dakshdar
So apparently we're now looking at the Knicks letting the Rockets swallow their poison pill contract to Jeremy Lin and instead doing a sign-and-trade to bring Ray Felton back to NY.

Seems likely. I don't see how they can effectively pay Lin $30 million over the next three years (counting the luxury tax). The sample size of his performance is too small and too skewed by D'Antoni when he was around. Still don't know if Lin can run the Woodson team with Carmelo and Amare in there. I don't think there would be enough shots to go around.

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:37 pm
by DRiccio21
Unless I'm not reading what ur writing properly, it's way more than 30 mil I believe including luxury tax

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:12 pm
by dakshdar
DRiccio21 wrote:Unless I'm not reading what ur writing properly, it's way more than 30 mil I believe including luxury tax
The offer sheet from Houston was for $25 mil over 3 seasons with ~$15 mil in the third season. The article I read said the total cost of the contract would come closer to $30 mil over the 3 seasons.

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:45 pm
by DRiccio21
with the luxury tax, his deal would cost the Knicks like 25 million in 2014-15 alone.

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:32 pm
by Matt90210
The Rockets did the backloaded deal so the bulk of Lin's contract would match up with the bulk of Melo and the other guy they have. The Knicks would be looking at over $40 mill in luxury tax. Sorry, but Lin isn't worth that. Let the Rockets make that mistake.

It's obvious the Knicks aren't high on Lin. They brought on Jason Kidd and of course traded for Felton. Can't see them matching.

Speaking of Jason Kidd:

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_ ... harged-dwi

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:55 pm
by dakshdar
DRiccio21 wrote:with the luxury tax, his deal would cost the Knicks like 25 million in 2014-15 alone.
Ah. I thought the article said it would bring the total to $30 million.

It actually brings the 2014-15 season to $30 million just for Lin alone.

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:09 pm
by DRiccio21
dakshdar wrote:
DRiccio21 wrote:with the luxury tax, his deal would cost the Knicks like 25 million in 2014-15 alone.
Ah. I thought the article said it would bring the total to $30 million.

It actually brings the 2014-15 season to $30 million just for Lin alone.
ya, linsanity

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:22 pm
by Matt90210
DRiccio21 wrote:
dakshdar wrote:
DRiccio21 wrote:with the luxury tax, his deal would cost the Knicks like 25 million in 2014-15 alone.
Ah. I thought the article said it would bring the total to $30 million.

It actually brings the 2014-15 season to $30 million just for Lin alone.
ya, linsanity
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Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:30 pm
by iRoccafella
So let see... rockets are trying to get Howard for a Year, and will be paying Lin and Asik 15+ mil in the 3rd year? Who do the Rockets have again? Buncha Vet minimums?

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:49 pm
by nick
i love how houston waived lin and now are paying out the ass to get him.. what suddenly changed in 1 year that you didnt see before coaches/scouts in Houston??

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:59 pm
by shel311
nick wrote:i love how houston waived lin and now are paying out the ass to get him.. what suddenly changed in 1 year that you didnt see before coaches/scouts in Houston??
I"m not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I'm sure when they waived him, they didn't think he was a guy who could average 18 and 8 or whatever he put up.

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:25 pm
by dakshdar
Updated analysis of what matching would do to the Knicks (according to ESPN):
A team source tells ESPNNewYork.com the third year of the Rockets' offer -- worth $14.8 million -- makes it unlikely the Knicks would match. If the Knicks were to match the offer, they would also be subject to a luxury tax in the third year, potentially bringing their total out-of-pocket cost for Lin to about $43 million in 2014-15.

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:32 pm
by shel311
dakshdar wrote:Updated analysis of what matching would do to the Knicks (according to ESPN):
A team source tells ESPNNewYork.com the third year of the Rockets' offer -- worth $14.8 million -- makes it unlikely the Knicks would match. If the Knicks were to match the offer, they would also be subject to a luxury tax in the third year, potentially bringing their total out-of-pocket cost for Lin to about $43 million in 2014-15.
How is it possible that with a $14mil salary in 1 season, that equates to $43mil total for one season?

Re: NBA Offseason

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:35 pm
by Matt90210
shel311 wrote:
dakshdar wrote:Updated analysis of what matching would do to the Knicks (according to ESPN):
A team source tells ESPNNewYork.com the third year of the Rockets' offer -- worth $14.8 million -- makes it unlikely the Knicks would match. If the Knicks were to match the offer, they would also be subject to a luxury tax in the third year, potentially bringing their total out-of-pocket cost for Lin to about $43 million in 2014-15.
How is it possible that with a $14mil salary in 1 season, that equates to $43mil total for one season?
Luxury tax. Melo and Stat make the bulk of their money when Lin's deal shoots sky high, which is why the Rockets structured it how it is.

But saying that equates to paying Lin $43 mill is quite dramatic.