Penn St

[cdub21]

anyone watch blue mountain state tonight?

[kdog36]

just switched over to it (rerun)

second sentence in the deal mentioned Joe Paternos win record. lol

[cdub21]

just switched over to it (rerun)

second sentence in the deal mentioned Joe Paternos win record. lol

and there was some other things happening that reminded of me of this lol.

[Seeitsaveit13]

@sportspickle: a football coach loses his job over a child rape scandal = LET'S RIOT!!! #NotRhodesScholars

@MattJonesCBB: Lost in tonight's hoopla is report from ESPN's @schadjoe that Paterno was not told of rape or sodomy,, but told instead of touching/fondling

Does not matter.. you dont know of any unwarranted touching of any kind to a child and just go about your business. His excuse of I told someone will not make him innocent

Actually it will. Not in the court of public opinion, but in actual courts, he's innocent.

[LetsGoPeay]

Joe Paterno is the last coach I would have thought I'd see fired in my lifetime. I always kind of thought he'd just retire eventually or gently be nudged into retirement. Or possibly even be found dead at his desk.

[DRiccio21]

the thing that i have a hard time with is McQ could have completely turned his back and pretended he never saw anything and still been on the fast track to a great job at Penn St. Instead he made the decesion to report it to Joe Pa with the faith that Joe Pa would do the right thing and he never did, or did enough. my problem is there might be 1 or 2 or a dozen other coaches/players who saw stuff and just never said or did anything that might still be around.

Not sure I get this. The only difference in Joe's situation and McQ's situation is that McQ saw the act first hand

if McQ never says anything, he's 100% in the clear and its like nothing ever happened.

if Paterno never says anything, McQ knows that he didn't say anything.

my point was there are probably many other people who saw or knew what Sandusky did to little kids and never said a word and are probably secure in their jobs while McQ tried to at least say something... he obviously didn't do enough... but he said something and now he's a villain in many peoples eyes.

don't confuse what i'm saying, i definitely don't condone or think McQ deserves any slack or do i think that people shouldn't report things like this when they see them, but its just something to think about. for all we know, everyone on the staff and all the players could have known what was going on and/or saw stuff and never said a word.

[LetsGoPeay]

So any word on if McQuery will be on the sidelines Saturday? Unless he's completely clueless, I don't see how he would even think of doing it if he's allowed to. And if he's allowed to, there's people even more clueless than him still in positions of power.

[DRiccio21]

So any word on if McQuery will be on the sidelines Saturday? Unless he's completely clueless, I don't see how he would even think of doing it if he's allowed to. And if he's allowed to, there's people even more clueless than him still in positions of power.

he can't be.

if he is, i actually kinda agree with the people hating on the school for letting the media make their decision for him.

he has to be gone and anyone else associated.

[LetsGoPeay]

One thing I do know is that the rating for this game this weekend are going to skyrocket. I want to watch from the very beginning just so I can see what it's like when the team runs on the field. Normally I just try to make sure I've got the TV on in time for kickoff. Aside from Oregon-Stanford, I wouldn't even know if there were any other games besides this one with IU having a bye.

[LetsGoPeay]

You've got to admit, firing Paterno over the phone was pretty cold and gutless. You can't have a sit down with him and do it face to face? People will argue that given the events that led to this, it's all he deserved but still, the Board at PSU has to be better than that don't they?

[DRiccio21]

You've got to admit, firing Paterno over the phone was pretty cold and gutless. You can't have a sit down with him and do it face to face? People will argue that given the events that led to this, it's all he deserved but still, the Board at PSU has to be better than that don't they?

tough to say, they were meeting pretty late at night... i hear what you're saying tho

i'm guessing they couldn't wait it out til the morning since so many people knew the final decision, they risked it getting leaked and him finding out thru the media and not by them at all.

[LetsGoPeay]

You've got to admit, firing Paterno over the phone was pretty cold and gutless. You can't have a sit down with him and do it face to face? People will argue that given the events that led to this, it's all he deserved but still, the Board at PSU has to be better than that don't they?

tough to say, they were meeting pretty late at night... i hear what you're saying tho

i'm guessing they couldn't wait it out til the morning since so many people knew the final decision, they risked it getting leaked and him finding out thru the media and not by them at all.

Still, go to his house. Have someone come and pick him up. It's a foregone conclusion. Have a man to man sit down and do it right. This whole thing was about accountability and respect for others wasn't it?

[DRiccio21]

You've got to admit, firing Paterno over the phone was pretty cold and gutless. You can't have a sit down with him and do it face to face? People will argue that given the events that led to this, it's all he deserved but still, the Board at PSU has to be better than that don't they?

tough to say, they were meeting pretty late at night... i hear what you're saying tho

i'm guessing they couldn't wait it out til the morning since so many people knew the final decision, they risked it getting leaked and him finding out thru the media and not by them at all.

Still, go to his house. Have someone come and pick him up. It's a foregone conclusion. Have a man to man sit down and do it right. This whole thing was about accountability and respect for others wasn't it?

i certainly hear ya.

if you listened to the press conference you could tell it wasn't exactly the most well thought out thing ever. they didn't even know how they'd handle compensation yet, which is one of the first things you figure out when you terminate someone.

so Tom Bradley is a lifetime Penn St guy and he just had no clue about anything that Sandusky was doing? i find it hard to believe that people around the program weren't all aware of what was going on.

[DRiccio21]

Sportscenter just reported that a courier went to Paterno's house, knocked on the door and handed Paterno a letter. in the letter was instructions to call a number. he called the number and 2 board of trustee's answered and simply said 'you are relieved of your duties'.

[packsyD22]

Dave I said it from the beginning. A coaching staff is an open family and I guarantee a lot of people close to the staff knew. I can almost guarantee that there were jokes bein fired amongst the coaches that Sandusky was gay, a petophile etc. just so weird that not one person reported after I was taken. To the ad etc.

[LetsGoPeay]

To protect themselves legally the university is going to have to fire every single individual who may have had even the slightest inkling that all this had happened. There is going to be a massive turnover in personnel there from administrators all the way down the janitor who may have worked there for the last 20 years. Every school has one of those you know.

[shel311]

So any word on if McQuery will be on the sidelines Saturday? Unless he's completely clueless, I don't see how he would even think of doing it if he's allowed to. And if he's allowed to, there's people even more clueless than him still in positions of power.

How can JoePa be fired and McQ not as of now?

That makes no sense.

[ajalves]

Someone said it right last night on SC. JoePa is old and not living in reality and is diluted. I mean, how is this NOT reported to the actual police. I don't mean campus police, as their job is to write 100 parking tickets a day. Like the real cops. Or if after a week, nothing is done by the campus cops, then go to the real cops.

So its ok for him to tell the campus police and then go back into his hole of coaching? Absolutely not.

If he, or anyone REALLY believes that is enough, you arent in touch with reality either.

I dont give a shit how long he has been coaching. Who knows what else he has turned a "blind eye" to.

[LetsGoPeay]

Someone said it right last night on SC. JoePa is old and not living in reality and is diluted. I mean, how is this NOT reported to the actual police. I don't mean campus police, as their job is to write 100 parking tickets a day. Like the real cops. Or if after a week, nothing is done by the campus cops, then go to the real cops.

So its ok for him to tell the campus police and then go back into his hole of coaching? Absolutely not.

If he, or anyone REALLY believes that is enough, you arent in touch with reality either.

I dont give a shit how long he has been coaching. Who knows what else he has turned a "blind eye" to.

Exactly. And I don't care about the "chain of command". If he wants to follow that fine. But he then needs to get on the phone and call somebody with real authority in this type of thing. He's Joe Paterno. You can't tell me he couldn't call the governors office, tell them who he is, and immediately be on the phone with him?

[ChampDizzle]

Penn St will always have a black eye now and the 2000 or so students that felt the need to riot should be ashamed