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Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:16 am
by GeorgesGoons
cougnix wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:34 am But still, what is the fundamental difference between Absentee vs Mail-in? There seems to be a Trump contention that they are different and Absentee are good and Mail- in at bad?
The difference is the amount of votes being cast that way

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:46 am
by ReignOnU
GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:16 am
cougnix wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:34 am But still, what is the fundamental difference between Absentee vs Mail-in? There seems to be a Trump contention that they are different and Absentee are good and Mail- in at bad?
The difference is the amount of votes being cast that way
Mail-In: It's exactly what it says, anyone, for any reason, can mail in the vote.

Absentee: A vote cast prior to the election, because the voter can't be there on election day. Most are mailed (think people overseas), some can be done in person. Absentee voting requires a valid reason why the person can't be there on the given day.

From a process standpoint, they are mailed the same. Absentee requires a reason why.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:19 am
by shel311
It's so wild to me that this day and age I can't vote online or right from my phone.

I can't really even fathom how that hasn't been figured out yet.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:23 am
by GeorgesGoons
shel311 wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:19 am It's so wild to me that this day and age I can't vote online or right from my phone.

I can't really even fathom how that hasn't been figured out yet.
Chinese, Russian and some kid random 16 year old somewhere in the USA can hack into NSA, CIA and FBI.....you think they could really secure the election from online voting?

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:27 am
by dakshdar
GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:23 am
shel311 wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:19 am It's so wild to me that this day and age I can't vote online or right from my phone.

I can't really even fathom how that hasn't been figured out yet.
Chinese, Russian and some kid random 16 year old somewhere in the USA can hack into NSA, CIA and FBI.....you think they could really secure the election from online voting?
You go to a polling station and much of the time now they record your vote through an electronic system. So, that's much safer or just a tad bit safer?

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:29 am
by GeorgesGoons
dakshdar wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:27 am
GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:23 am
shel311 wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:19 am It's so wild to me that this day and age I can't vote online or right from my phone.

I can't really even fathom how that hasn't been figured out yet.
Chinese, Russian and some kid random 16 year old somewhere in the USA can hack into NSA, CIA and FBI.....you think they could really secure the election from online voting?
You go to a polling station and much of the time now they record your vote through an electronic system. So, that's much safer or just a tad bit safer?
I am not 100% positive on this, but pretty close......polling stations are on an intranet with no outside connection ability.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:47 am
by cougnix
GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:29 am
dakshdar wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:27 am
GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:23 am
shel311 wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:19 am It's so wild to me that this day and age I can't vote online or right from my phone.

I can't really even fathom how that hasn't been figured out yet.
Chinese, Russian and some kid random 16 year old somewhere in the USA can hack into NSA, CIA and FBI.....you think they could really secure the election from online voting?
You go to a polling station and much of the time now they record your vote through an electronic system. So, that's much safer or just a tad bit safer?
I am not 100% positive on this, but pretty close......polling stations are on an intranet with no outside connection ability.

I’m wondering if this is true with how quick reporting is.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:48 am
by GeorgesGoons
Here is a good article from Time Magazine regarding how votes are cast and potential vulnerabilities

https://time.com/4498995/voting-hackers ... g-station/

So a lot of the electronic voting has a paper audit there are a couple of states that have zero paper trail for audit purposes.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:52 am
by GeorgesGoons
A couple of articles I read the vulnerabilities come from people hacking the system at the polling station. The computers are extremely old from what I have read.

The US needs to have a standardized electronic polling machine. Each county in the same state could use different types of machines.

All electronic polling machines should have a paper receipt for auditing purposes. I find it weird that there were Republican states that had zero paper trail as it's something they always worry about, voter fraud. They should clean up their act in that regard

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:58 am
by cougnix
Delaying the vote will delay the reopen and extend the pandemic so let’s get this vote going

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:59 am
by GeorgesGoons
cougnix wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:58 am Delaying the vote will delay the reopen and extend the pandemic so let’s get this vote going
There is zero chance that the vote is delayed. ZERO

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:07 pm
by GeorgesGoons
19% of votes disqualified in New Jersey's 3rd largest city. 4 men charged with voter fraud. I think it would be more wide spread if a national mail in ballot initiative was implemented, especially with cities that have never done anything like this before.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/artic ... 0gIn4JkZ_I

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:13 pm
by nick
Is anyone else embarrassed to be white? Good lord reading Twitter.

Black person: this happened

White people: but but but we need attention and this happened!!!

Black people: blm
White people: All lives matter!!! (Including rapists and pedophiles by their logic)

Just people: covid has killed 150k ppl
White people: black people have had 22 mil abortions since the 50s!!

Like what the fuck is wrong with old white people? Get lives. What also sucks is like usual old ass ppl ruin everything. Fb is dead. Twitter is dead. Old ppl retweeting raffles for free iPads and getting hacked by Indian scammers.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:17 pm
by GeorgesGoons
nick wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:13 pm Is anyone else embarrassed to be white? Good lord reading Twitter.
Not a fucking ounce of embarrassment. I don't apologize for other white people being racist as I would not expect black Americans to apologize for the gang bangers shooting kids

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:18 pm
by nick
I like how for black ppl it’s instantly gang bangers shooting kids. Lmfaooooo

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:26 pm
by GeorgesGoons
nick wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:18 pm I like how for black ppl it’s instantly gang bangers shooting kids. Lmfaooooo
it was taking the worse of the worse accusations for both sides.

Whites = racist
Blacks = gang bangers

you do twitter, just look at both sides arguing back and forth and see how often it gets thrown out

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:34 pm
by shel311
We've now reached the point of lunacy where articles are being written when a player decides to stand for the National Anthem. :lol:



I believed we've reached Idiocracy, we did it!

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:59 pm
by nick
President Trump boasted about the amount of retweets he received in a post saying that Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, assured him that military bases named after Confederates will not be changed.

"I had about 95,000 positive retweets on that. That's a lot," Trump told Inhofe on a phone call the senator put on speaker while dining at a Washington, D.C., restaurant Wednesday night, according to audio leaked to The New York Times.

Inhofe, 85, reportedly put the call on speaker so he could hear better, making the conversation audible to those seated at Trattoria Alberto, a small Capitol Hill eatery frequented by Republican lawmakers.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:16 pm
by dakshdar
All the GDP stuff posted was accurate, but wasn't it still the worst GDP drop ever? Even given it's always calculated that way?

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:25 pm
by nick
economics =/= scott steiner math