NBA Thread

[cougnix]

And people in sports want to claim they aren't role models, aren't influential, just want to do their job.

[wdoupis]

One of the best NBA GMs is going to get fired and become unemployable due to a tweet in support of freedom. Welcome to 2019

Lebron/Kerr/Pop are champions and leaders who use their platform to speak up and have numerous quotes about how they NEED to use their platform to speak up.


Crickets when it comes to supporting freedom.

Kerr actually gave a quote, and he pulled the, "I don't know enough info to speak about it" line which is just BS. He seems like a pretty worldly dude, and he even said his brother in law is a Chinese history professor but yea, he has no clue what's going on here.

Does this honestly surprise you? This is why actors/athletes should stay out of politics and social movements. They are all hypocrites and will say whatever to get that new commercial, shoe deal, acting role....etc

I don't really see it that way. Yes they all use their platform to speak up about things but that does not mean that they have to about EVERYTHING. Obviously the NBA is looking out for its business but I see all these people calling Kerr a coward and all this but why do they have to speak out about complicated China/Hong Kong relations just because they are vocal about domestic things in their own country?

I am sure if you spoke to Kerry privately he would say he supports Hong Kong but I do not think he needs to say a word about it nor do I think it discredits the things they do speak passionately about.

[GeorgesGoons]

One of the best NBA GMs is going to get fired and become unemployable due to a tweet in support of freedom. Welcome to 2019

Lebron/Kerr/Pop are champions and leaders who use their platform to speak up and have numerous quotes about how they NEED to use their platform to speak up.


Crickets when it comes to supporting freedom.

Kerr actually gave a quote, and he pulled the, "I don't know enough info to speak about it" line which is just BS. He seems like a pretty worldly dude, and he even said his brother in law is a Chinese history professor but yea, he has no clue what's going on here.

Does this honestly surprise you? This is why actors/athletes should stay out of politics and social movements. They are all hypocrites and will say whatever to get that new commercial, shoe deal, acting role....etc

I don't really see it that way. Yes they all use their platform to speak up about things but that does not mean that they have to about EVERYTHING. Obviously the NBA is looking out for his business but I see all these people calling Kerr a coward and all this but why do they have to speak out about complicated China/Hong Kong relations just because they are vocal about domestic things in their own country?

I am sure if you spoke to Kerry privately he would say he supports Hong Kong but I do not think he needs to say a word about it nor do I think it discredits the things they do speak passionately about.

This is one that these athletes and the NBA should take a stand on. But they won't because it's money out of their pocket. Why do you think it is okay for these superstars and huge organization (NBA) to be silent on this. You would be perfectly okay if they used their platform to bad mouthed President Trump, but it's okay to be silent when someones freedom is on the line. This is when they should be most obnoxious with their tweets.

[nick]

its 1 thing to speak out about problems in the US when you live there.. its another to speak about another country, especially one like China.

[shel311]

I see all these people calling Kerr a coward and all this but why do they have to speak out about complicated China/Hong Kong relations just because they are vocal about domestic things in their own country?

I am sure if you spoke to Kerry privately he would say he supports Hong Kong but I do not think he needs to say a word about it nor do I think it discredits the things they do speak passionately about.

The reason is because Kerr set the standard, essentially has said it himself.


These are all Steve Kerr quotes:

We are in a society where a lot of us have microphones in our face every day, and a lot of us feel strongly about our need to speak out on injustice. I think it’s important

For a long time, a lot of athletes stayed out of the political forum, out of fear of losing customers, and I think it’s refreshing that we have athletes who are putting their social beliefs ahead of any marketing issues. I think that’s powerful

Free speech is one of the principles our country was founded on, I think there’s some responsibility that goes with that if you see injustice,” Kerr said. “That’s why I think the league has been great in terms of understanding that responsibility and taking action, such as moving the All-Star Game from Charlotte to New Orleans

[GeorgesGoons]

I see all these people calling Kerr a coward and all this but why do they have to speak out about complicated China/Hong Kong relations just because they are vocal about domestic things in their own country?

I am sure if you spoke to Kerry privately he would say he supports Hong Kong but I do not think he needs to say a word about it nor do I think it discredits the things they do speak passionately about.

The reason is because Kerr set the standard, essentially has said it himself.


These are all Steve Kerr quotes:

We are in a society where a lot of us have microphones in our face every day, and a lot of us feel strongly about our need to speak out on injustice. I think it’s important

For a long time, a lot of athletes stayed out of the political forum, out of fear of losing customers, and I think it’s refreshing that we have athletes who are putting their social beliefs ahead of any marketing issues. I think that’s powerful

Free speech is one of the principles our country was founded on, I think there’s some responsibility that goes with that if you see injustice,” Kerr said. “That’s why I think the league has been great in terms of understanding that responsibility and taking action, such as moving the All-Star Game from Charlotte to New Orleans

As did the athletes. If you want to be the voice of social justice, then be the voice for all social justices. But they won't because it could affect their paychecks, so their voice means even less now if they don't stand by people who are only asking for freedom. Hell, a lot of the protesters had freedom up till 1997 or 1998 when the UK handed over the territory to China.

[wdoupis]

But all of these are domestic things, all those quotes are about things happening in the states. I am ok with all of that even if I disagree on the stance. To say that they should be commenting on things happening in China that go back to colonialism is insane to me. If you live in America and have opinions on gun violence, police and the way they treat minorities, gerrymandering or whatever that is fine. Are they now supposed to comment on every injustice in the world? America having too many opinions and trying to solve (or create) other countries problems is one of the big problems we have

[nick]

South Park creators have bigger balls than the NBA

[GeorgesGoons]

But all of these are domestic things, all those quotes are about things happening in the states. I am ok with all of that even if I disagree on the stance. To say that they should be commenting on things happening in China that go back to colonialism is insane to me. If you live in America and have opinions on gun violence, police and the way they treat minorities, gerrymandering or whatever that is fine. Are they now supposed to comment on every injustice in the world? America having too many opinions and trying to solve (or create) other countries problems is one of the big problems we have

If the NBA is okay with bringing in millions of dollars from that country then yes! they should say something. Not every dollar is a good dollar. I wouldn't go clean trucks for a known racist just so I could make money.

[GeorgesGoons]

South Park creators have bigger balls than the NBA

They always have had the biggest balls when it comes to political incorrectness

[wdoupis]

But all of these are domestic things, all those quotes are about things happening in the states. I am ok with all of that even if I disagree on the stance. To say that they should be commenting on things happening in China that go back to colonialism is insane to me. If you live in America and have opinions on gun violence, police and the way they treat minorities, gerrymandering or whatever that is fine. Are they now supposed to comment on every injustice in the world? America having too many opinions and trying to solve (or create) other countries problems is one of the big problems we have

If the NBA is okay with bringing in millions of dollars from that country then yes! they should say something. Not every dollar is a good dollar. I wouldn't go clean trucks for a known racist just so I could make money.

All of our goods are Chinese. We accept oil from countries that commit atrocities. Trump's team is in love with Saudi who is one of the most cruel and human rights violating regimes in the world. This is how the world works and is not something crazy that the NBA is doing. If they want to open their market to China for more basketball fans then great. I hardly think its the NBAs job to get involved in Chinese politics and it certainly is not the job of the players and coaches.

I also have no problem with Morey and his tweet but much like with Kaepernick if you are an employee and say something that brings negative attention and impact on your employers business then you gotta be ready for possible repercussions.

[nick]

[shel311]

But all of these are domestic things, all those quotes are about things happening in the states. I am ok with all of that even if I disagree on the stance. To say that they should be commenting on things happening in China that go back to colonialism is insane to me. If you live in America and have opinions on gun violence, police and the way they treat minorities, gerrymandering or whatever that is fine. Are they now supposed to comment on every injustice in the world? America having too many opinions and trying to solve (or create) other countries problems is one of the big problems we have

I'd generally agree that I wouldn't expect those guys to just randomly start talking about HK/China, but now it is super relevant to them, so based on Kerr's previous comments, I'd 100% expect him to come out very strongly in support of HK.


For example, the Lakers were expected to play in China tomorrow, and China has canceled this game. That's not asking Lebron to just randomly comment on something, it is quite literally now affecting him and his team.

[shel311]

I hardly think its the NBAs job to get involved in Chinese politics and it certainly is not the job of the players and coaches.

That's fine, but both the NBA and certain players/coaches have set the precedent of getting involved in these types of things especially when they're relevant to the NBA.

[ReignOnU]

One of the best NBA GMs is going to get fired and become unemployable due to a tweet in support of freedom. Welcome to 2019

Lebron/Kerr/Pop are champions and leaders who use their platform to speak up and have numerous quotes about how they NEED to use their platform to speak up.


Crickets when it comes to supporting freedom.

Kerr actually gave a quote, and he pulled the, "I don't know enough info to speak about it" line which is just BS. He seems like a pretty worldly dude, and he even said his brother in law is a Chinese history professor but yea, he has no clue what's going on here.

Does this honestly surprise you? This is why actors/athletes should stay out of politics and social movements. They are all hypocrites and will say whatever to get that new commercial, shoe deal, acting role....etc

I don't really see it that way. Yes they all use their platform to speak up about things but that does not mean that they have to about EVERYTHING. Obviously the NBA is looking out for its business but I see all these people calling Kerr a coward and all this but why do they have to speak out about complicated China/Hong Kong relations just because they are vocal about domestic things in their own country?

I am sure if you spoke to Kerry privately he would say he supports Hong Kong but I do not think he needs to say a word about it nor do I think it discredits the things they do speak passionately about.

Easy to be passionate when shit doesn't have consequences. A lot of these guys are REALLY loud when they don't have any skin in the game.

[ReignOnU]

Here's the one reason I can respect for the a lot of these guys not standing up right now... safety.

China isn't America. These guys are there or have people there that could be seriously impacted if shit went south. So with that said, I'm ok not jumping on them fully right now.

[wdoupis]

Silver has come out and said that the two countries are different politically and that they wouldn’t punish Morey or infringe upon his right to speak freely. That’s more then most would do, can’t see Goodell taking that approach. We will see if they stand firm in their support of Morey, if not then I’d say any criticism for that is more than fair

[GeorgesGoons]

That’s more then most would do, can’t see Goodell taking that approach.

Especially if the Saints are involved...Right Shel?

[ReignOnU]

Silver has come out and said that the two countries are different politically and that they wouldn’t punish Morey or infringe upon his right to speak freely. That’s more then most would do, can’t see Goodell taking that approach. We will see if they stand firm in their support of Morey, if not then I’d say any criticism for that is more than fair

Everything is totally settled free and clear with Kaep. Should be back on a team in no time.

[nick]

Theres about 10 teams that could use Kaep in this running QB era too