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ajalves wrote: trendon hates us cause we're good at a game

It started with me getting pissed because I want to play with you guys, but you are stuck on Domination. I hate Domination because it is CoD's version of cheese and either takes no effort if you are winning and is infuriating if you are losing. Stationary targets = snooze.

Now, I just want you and Biffy to admit that the whole concept of Domination is to procure two connecting flags so that you can control the flow of traffic (re: camp). Hoos admitted it. The whole fucking Internet knows it. You two seem to disagree with everyone.

"Domination is not about getting all the flags. Its about capping A/C and B. Its a spawn trapping game."

"Also, camping is sort of the point of domination-you get the flag, you defend it."

Camping is a REQUIREMENT of Domination. And, when done properly, leads to a marked increase in your personal productivity, but that is an old argument from me. Just admit it. Domination has more camping than anything.

And to whoever said HQ has the most is out of their mind. It might be the least. You can't ... the objective moves. Every so often, you'll come across one fool who laps the target instead of actually going in but good ol' fashioned smoke grenades solve his ass. Demolition is right next to Domination except I rather enjoy the zerg fest after someone blows up the first bomb.

The irony of this discussion? I don't mind camping or campers at all. It is practical strategy; don't die. I just want you too to admit that's why you play Domination. You all get together and play very well for 30 seconds and then it is smooth sailing from there as you park yourself somewhere between B and A/C and let the fools run right towards you. All you need is one Chopper and it is Game, Set, Match.

For my money, here is my rank of camping modes from least to most.

Headquarters
Sabotage
Free For All
Team Deathmatch (not Hardcore)
Capture the Flag (the worst fucking game for score, though and can get horrible if you start losing by a lot)
Search & Destroy
Demolition
Domination

I didnt know trapping the other team was considered camping? I think your definition of camping is completely wrong to be honest. Camping is sitting in the exact same spot just waiting for a player to pass through your sights. Everybody on our team is always moving. Do we defend our objectives? Yes. That is what you are supposed to do. Do we attack the other teams objectives? Yes. That is what you are supposed to do. Do we get yelled by Trendon because we attack a little too hard and move into their base? Yes.

trendon wrote:

ajalves wrote: trendon hates us cause we're good at a game

It started with me getting pissed because I want to play with you guys, but you are stuck on Domination. I hate Domination because it is CoD's version of cheese and either takes no effort if you are winning and is infuriating if you are losing. Stationary targets = snooze.

Now, I just want you and Biffy to admit that the whole concept of Domination is to procure two connecting flags so that you can control the flow of traffic (re: camp). Hoos admitted it. The whole fucking Internet knows it. You two seem to disagree with everyone.

"Domination is not about getting all the flags. Its about capping A/C and B. Its a spawn trapping game."

"Also, camping is sort of the point of domination-you get the flag, you defend it."

Camping is a REQUIREMENT of Domination. And, when done properly, leads to a marked increase in your personal productivity, but that is an old argument from me. Just admit it. Domination has more camping than anything.

And to whoever said HQ has the most is out of their mind. It might be the least. You can't ... the objective moves. Every so often, you'll come across one fool who laps the target instead of actually going in but good ol' fashioned smoke grenades solve his ass. Demolition is right next to Domination except I rather enjoy the zerg fest after someone blows up the first bomb.

The irony of this discussion? I don't mind camping or campers at all. It is practical strategy; don't die. I just want you too to admit that's why you play Domination. You all get together and play very well for 30 seconds and then it is smooth sailing from there as you park yourself somewhere between B and A/C and let the fools run right towards you. All you need is one Chopper and it is Game, Set, Match.

For my money, here is my rank of camping modes from least to most.

Headquarters
Sabotage
Free For All
Team Deathmatch (not Hardcore)
Capture the Flag (the worst fucking game for score, though and can get horrible if you start losing by a lot)
Search & Destroy
Demolition
Domination

honest question, do you think you can do what we do? Meaning, get 5 other guys, apply what we have learned and do it? Has it ever crossed your mind that what you think is easy is really not easy, we just make it look that way? Sometimes we will pick up other guys who dont play with us all the time and its a struggle because they will not press for B and will hang back by A or C.

I mean, you got us as mind controllers. We have somehow taken over the other team and control them in to coming where we want.

The truth is trendon, you know, the whole internet doesnt know, cause if they did, then you would see what we do used by every clan that plays domination.
I will admit this for you, Based on your roaming def. of camping, we are camping and domination is the worst camping game.

I am curious as to how you would suggest domination is played. We play for fun and what fun is to us is winning. We truly dont get too hung up on k/d when we play, we do get frustrated if we are getting blasted in the ass but in the end its about winning. That is fun for us.

I really think if we played other games, you would find a way to bitch about how we play that as well. I mean if we were to play HQ, we would have 1 or 2 guys capture the HQ and the other 4 guys surround the HQ picking guys off as they tried to get there. By your def, we are camping if we do that because we are controlling the flow of traffic. The fact is and you have admitted a little of this, some of us could play any game mode and be good. The hardest thing I have found when playing other game modes is the right combo of perks and guns, once I find something that works for that game mode, it is easy.

For Example, I started out 0-7 in TDM with Hoos. We were down 20 kills at one point to the other team. We win by 2 kills and I finish as top score going 29-12, once I got comfortable with the gun and where they were coming from. I am honestly telling you this, I play domination because it is the most fun mode, not for any other reason. It is easy only because we have made it easy.

You guys can’t figure out Trendon’s game?

Trendon doesn’t want to play Domination all the time.
Trendon wants to play with us
Trendon masterminds a plan
Trendon attacks Domination and our ego’s so that we will stop playing Domination and prove that we can play any mode.
Trendon gets us to stop exclusively playing Domination.
Trendon can play with us.

Hoos wrote:You guys can’t figure out Trendon’s game?

Trendon doesn’t want to play Domination all the time.
Trendon wants to play with us
Trendon masterminds a plan
Trendon attacks Domination and our ego’s so that we will stop playing Domination and prove that we can play any mode.
Trendon gets us to stop exclusively playing Domination.
Trendon can play with us.

he has been very "successful" getting this to happen.

We had a brief stint where we played mosh pit, dominated, proved our point that we could dominate any game mode, and then returned to the MOST FUN game mode.

BFiVL wrote: I am curious as to how you would suggest domination is played.

You are either fucking stupid, dense, or not reading my posts past the first sentence. In fact, I am now convinced none of you are reading.

Aside from that, explain why Hoos is writing fucking tutorials on how 3Dog plays Domination by specifically saying CAMPING and SPAWN CAMPING? I'll answer the quoted "I am curious as to how you would suggest domination is played" because you probably already hit reply - like you've done before - and won't see my comment on that, like you've done three or four times now.

lol, im probably better than all of you at this stupid game . Only time I ever play is when im so high my eyes are squinty and i can barely think. Im sure if I took a more sober approach it would be a different outcome.

BFiVL wrote:

Hoos wrote:You guys can’t figure out Trendon’s game?

Trendon doesn’t want to play Domination all the time.
Trendon wants to play with us
Trendon masterminds a plan
Trendon attacks Domination and our ego’s so that we will stop playing Domination and prove that we can play any mode.
Trendon gets us to stop exclusively playing Domination.
Trendon can play with us.

he has been very "successful" getting this to happen.

The fourth one wasn't part of the plan.

I just don't like being lied to. I am a very honest person. I know why you all play Domination. Hoos, I know why you do, I fucking read your post about it. Good to see you explain yourself. Biffy, AJ, Dan ... I want to hear them say it. "I like playing Domination because I can trust that my teammates will quickly secure two connecting flags and I can spend the duration of the game camping out between A/C and B and get easy kills thus jacking up my K/D ratio."

trendon wrote:
I just don't like being lied to. I am a very honest person. I know why you all play Domination. Hoos, I know why you do, I fucking read your post about it. Good to see you explain yourself. Biffy, AJ, Dan ... I want to hear them say it. "I like playing Domination because I can trust that my teammates will quickly secure two connecting flags and I can spend the duration of the game camping out between A/C and B and get easy kills thus jacking up my K/D ratio."

truth is I will play any mode with certain guys as I know they have my back in certain spots, situations.

BFiVL wrote: It is easy only because we have made it easy.

I just played with schoola yesterday. I stared at B for 15 rounds, put up gargantuan kill numbers, won all 15 games in landslides, and quit because I was bored (plus Ground War was laggy).

Trust me, everyone knows the mechanics of Domination. It isn't a big secret, Sir Arrogance. People just often choose to play Domination for other purposes, kill farming, nuke farming, etc.

I love to spawn camp until I get the Nuke.

Now I am convinced you are just playing me for a fool for shits and giggles.

trendon wrote:Now I am convinced you are just playing me for a fool for shits and giggles.

well take all that fool'd anger and direct it to getting the draft moving sir.

Trendon, if I want to jack my Kill Death ratio up I will play free for all. Ive only played like 10 of them but on over half of them I finish with zero deaths and the win! Thats 30-0 Trendon...aka a big boost to the kill death ratio.

Or i would play Sabotage, where I can get 70+ kills with no problem. The problem with that game mode: Its waaaaayyyyyy to fuckin long. Even when i plant the fuckin bomb my team is too dumb to protect the damn thing.

How bout this for a stat....my Kill Death ratio has gone down .05 points playing domination! That might not seem like a lot, but it is when you take into account that I have over 30,000 kills. In order to get back to my 3.0 I would need to play a game of around 500 kills and 0 deaths.

I have a good kill death ratio for one reason: I'm good at killing people. I dont need to camp in order to rake in kills, and neither do biffy, aj, mike, etc.... Even with all the killing, we still hop on flags (believe it or not when Bama says, "I got A/B/C all by myself", theres really usually another person on that flag )! It is possible to both kill and capture! I've said it before, I like domination because it mixes strategy and killing better than the other game modes.

sixpackdan101 wrote:Trendon, if I want to jack my Kill Death ratio up I will play free for all. Ive only played like 10 of them but on over half of them I finish with zero deaths and the win! Thats 30-0 Trendon...aka a big boost to the kill death ratio.

Or i would play Sabotage, where I can get 70+ kills with no problem. The problem with that game mode: Its waaaaayyyyyy to fuckin long. Even when i plant the fuckin bomb my team is too dumb to protect the damn thing.

How bout this for a stat....my Kill Death ratio has gone down .05 points playing domination! That might not seem like a lot, but it is when you take into account that I have over 30,000 kills. In order to get back to my 3.0 I would need to play a game of around 500 kills and 0 deaths.

I have a good kill death ratio for one reason: I'm good at killing people. I dont need to camp in order to rake in kills, and neither do biffy, aj, mike, etc.... Even with all the killing, we still hop on flags (believe it or not when Bama says, "I got A/B/C all by myself", theres really usually another person on that flag )! It is possible to both kill and capture! I've said it before, I like domination because it mixes strategy and killing better than the other game modes.

I actually believe the average kill ratio has gone down because of the awareness of getting out of the way of the Chopper Gunner. I think it has finally come full circle to either have Cold Blooded or hide. That is just my statistical theory. It'd be impossible to prove at this moment, but I'd suspect it would have happened with any game mode. If I had a time machine, I'd travel back and ask you to log your kills obtained from aeriel killstreaks and I'd wager that it is twice as much as if I asked you to log those kills now. On a side note, I have also noticed an increase in the use of the AC130.

Online video games are a test study in co-evolution. One guy figures out something and everyone evolves around it. Think of it like footbal: wide receivers getting too big; corners are starting to get bigger. Linebackers were man-handling TE's, now TE's are big wideouts and the LB position has gone back to long, fast players. It is what is so annoying about this Marathon, Lightweight, Commando shit; there is no easy counter.

All that aside, I still maintain Domination is a camp fest and an easy way to get kills. There is no other way to explain how I perform a little bit under 20% better in that mode than I do in any other mode.

1.571
1.374
1.019
1.311
1.205
1.246
1.324
1.395
Overall: 1.299

Extra bonus: Guess what mode the 1.019 mode is. These stats will also show you why I fucking hate CTF. The CTF number is the 1.395 one; second-best. CTF aalso is the lowest average scoring one, even below FFA

Those are my stats over 175 games that I sampled. Guess which one is Domination.

sixpackdan101 wrote:Or i would play Sabotage, where I can get 70+ kills with no problem. The problem with that game mode: Its waaaaayyyyyy to fuckin long. Even when i plant the fuckin bomb my team is too dumb to protect the damn thing.

I love it! I love the ebb and flow of the battlefield. It is time well spent for me. I also love my game-ending stat line if it goes the full 21:30. It is always something like 38-11-32. I feel like Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell.

Trendon, is your name patches cause you got the 5 D's down pat. How do you suggest domination is played?

Trendon, we get it and we are fucking with you. None of the things we say are with arrogance or a sense of better than thou. Its more of we know you are full of shit and we are going to yank the shit out of your chain because you are really clueless.

Also, trendon, your stats a shit as well because of variables of each game than can vastly improve or decrease your K/D ( which BTW means very little to 3dog clan because we could all go >1 k/d and still win by 50 points in domination)

I like turtles.