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Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:52 pm
by Matt90210
They need to execute him and be done with it.
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:43 am
by TerpsMustDie
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:46 am
by DRiccio21
wow, thats straight out of a movie type shit
he goes to buy coffee, she looks on his laptop to find out about him, she realizes he's a psycho killer, he comes in and realizes what shes doing, she panics, he kills her
crazy.
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:46 am
by trendon
Sigh.
Never ever confess.
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:22 pm
by shel311
DRiccio21 wrote:wow, thats straight out of a movie type shit
he goes to buy coffee, she looks on his laptop to find out about him, she realizes he's a psycho killer, he comes in and realizes what shes doing, she panics, he kills her
crazy.
Obviously really sucks for her. But damn, she knew who he was, why the hell was she with him in his hotel room to begin with?
Crazy story. What a crazy dude.
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:24 pm
by DRiccio21
trendon wrote:Sigh.
Never ever confess.
at some point it has to just overtake you and your will to keep running and lying has to give in
or
he was tortured til he confessed
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:36 pm
by trendon
DRiccio21 wrote:trendon wrote:Sigh.
Never ever confess.
at some point it has to just overtake you and your will to keep running and lying has to give in
or
he was tortured til he confessed
Probably the last part. However, never ever confess if you are not being tortured. You have plenty of time to put in a guilty plea, what's the rush. Let your attorney do his job and try and get a discount.
However, like you said, I doubt Habeas corpus or any other writ flies in peru and/or when you are someone like Joran.
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:46 pm
by packsyD22
I just watched the interview with the guy on ABC......pretty simple.....some people are fucking insane and can't be helped, this is one of them, guy is a full blown psychopath.
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:50 pm
by trendon
packsyD22 wrote:I just watched the interview with the guy on ABC......pretty simple.....some people are fucking insane and can't be helped, this is one of them, guy is a full blown psychopath.
I think it is wrong to call him insane. Insane people have no idea what they are doing, lack reason, and cannot tell right from wrong. He is closer to the definition of psychopath than anything. He has a narcissistic personality disorder and it manifests itself violently, in these cases, on weaker subjects; meaning he is predatory.
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:53 pm
by DRiccio21
tomato, tomato
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:38 pm
by packsyD22
DRiccio21 wrote:tomato, tomato
Exactly. I think anyone that "murders" anyone for no friggin reason is insane in my book. Plain and simple. I am talking cold blooded murder, not hitting someone with your car on accident.
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:45 pm
by trendon
While it may be sad, "murder" is a basic element of our species. You don't have to be insane to kill someone and killing someone doesn't make you insane. In our culture, it makes you a criminal and a murderer. However, to call someone insane for killing someone is improper use of language and, worse, really diminishes the act. I'll defer to George Carlin ...
I don't like words that hide the truth. I don't like words that conceal reality. I don't like euphemisms, or euphemistic language.
And American English is loaded with euphemisms. Cause Americans have a lot of trouble dealing with reality. Americans have trouble facing the truth, so they invent the kind of a soft language to protect themselves from it, and it gets worse with every generation.
For some reason, it just keeps getting worse. I'll give you an example of that. There's a condition in combat. Most people know about it. It's when a fighting person's nervous system has been stressed to it's absolute peak and maximum. Can't take anymore input. The nervous system has either (click) snapped or is about to snap.
In the first world war, that condition was called Shell Shock. Simple, honest, direct language. Two syllables, Shell Shock. Almost sounds like the guns themselves. That was seventy years ago.
Then a whole generation went by and the second world war came along and very same combat condition was called Battle Fatigue. Four syllables now. Takes a little longer to say. Doesn't seem to hurt as much. Fatigue is a nicer word than shock. Shell Shock! Battle Fatigue.
Then we had the war in Korea, 1950. Madison avenue was riding high by that time, and the very same combat condition was called Operational Exhaustion. Hey, were up to eight syllables now! And the humanity has been squeezed completely out of the phrase. It's totally sterile now. Operational exhaustion. Sounds like something that might happen to your car.
Then of course, came the war in Viet Nam, which has only been over for about sixteen or seventeen years, and thanks to the lies and deceits surrounding that war, I guess it's no surprise that the very same condition was called Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. Still eight syllables, but we've added a hyphen! And the pain is completely buried under jargon. Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.
I'll bet you if we'd of still been calling it Shell Shock, some of those Viet Nam veterans might have gotten the attention they needed at the time. I'll betcha. I'll betcha."
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:01 pm
by packsyD22
George Carlin..........whatever he says goes then eh Trendon?
EDIT: Trendon I find you to not be insane, and I highly doubt you would walk into someones house and kill them for no good reason, and not because it was illegal, its because you don't have what it takes inside of you because your not "insane."
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:10 pm
by trendon
packsyD22 wrote:George Carlin..........whatever he says goes then eh Trendon?
EDIT: Trendon I find you to not be insane, and I highly doubt you would walk into someones house and kill them for no good reason, and not because it was illegal, its because you don't have what it takes inside of you because your not "insane."
Remind me never to quote anyone else ever again.
You are missing the point. In fact, you are doing yourself a disservice by dismissing him as insane. Insane people, in a reasonable society, cannot be held completely liable for their actions. Is that what you want to happen?
There are many other words you can use to properly describe him: homicidal, narcissistic, psychopathic, (loosely) sociopath, are just a few. Using "insane" diminishes what he allegedly did - in fact, it actually JUSTIFIES it! - and sets terrible precedents; what if every killer is insane?
It isn't hyperbole when people say "the pen is mightier than the sword." Words are the most crucial weapon we have to combat injustices and establish our future.
He is a killer. Simple as that; no need for adjectives.
Edit: You can also use "maniac"
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:23 pm
by Hoos
trendon wrote:Edit: You can also use "maniac"
I looked it up; you can also use the following words:
batty, bizarre, cracked, crazed, crazy, cuckoo, daft, demented, derailed, deranged, fatuous, frenzied, idiotic, impractical, irrational, irresponsible, loony, lunatic, mad, maniacal, mental, moonstruck, nuts, nutty, of unsound mind, off one's rocker, out of one's mind, paranoid, preposterous, psychopathic, psychotic, rabid, raging, raving, schizophrenic, screwy, senseless, touched, unhinged, unsettled, wild
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:23 pm
by packsyD22
Maniac. I like that one, that word is never used enough. This guy is a fucking maniac.
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:24 pm
by trendon
packsyD22 wrote:Maniac. I like that one, that word is never used enough. This guy is a fucking maniac.
It isn't and it is a great word!
"Look at this fucking maniac!" is a great sentence.
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:28 pm
by Hoos
Preposterous is a strong word. I'm going to start working that one into my posts.
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:30 pm
by trendon
Hoos wrote:Preposterous is a strong word. I'm going to start working that one into my posts.
Along with that, outrageous is a great adjective that is often mis-used. While correct, I feel "the party was outrageous" is not using the word to its fullest. Instead, I like: "Hoos' outrageous claims only solidified his place as the league's ignoramus." or "Hoos' outrageous attitude convinced us all to leave the group and find another lobby."
Re: Joran Van der Sloot doin what he does best: Kill young g
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:31 pm
by Cnasty
Ive been going with "unreal" a lot lately.
I need to back down off of it for a while.
I go through periods of time where I get attached to a word.
Since seeing Paul Walker on that Great White NatGeo special, Ive been saying everything is "sick"
