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cougnix wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:18 pm And most will have you believe its Bidens fault

cougnix wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:18 pm And the others will have you believ its Trumps fault, sorry I didnt state the other part. Again, keep slicing and dicing because you do exactly the same thing...

Exclusive: Before Afghan collapse, Biden pressed Ghani to ‘change perception

The men spoke for roughly 14 minutes on July 23. On August 15, Ghani fled the presidential palace, and the Taliban entered Kabul. Since then, tens of thousands of desperate Afghans have fled and 13 U.S. troops and scores of Afghan civilians were killed in a suicide bombing at the Kabul airport during the frenetic U.S. military evacuation.

In much of the call, Biden focused on what he called the Afghan government’s “perception” problem. “I need not tell you the perception around the world and in parts of Afghanistan, I believe, is that things are not going well in terms of the fight against the Taliban,” Biden said. “And there is a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture.”

Biden told Ghani that if Afghanistan’s prominent political figures were to give a press conference together, backing a new military strategy, “that will change perception, and that will change an awful lot I think.”

cougnix wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:52 pm Trump was the worst president in our lifetime, not even close.

cougnix wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:52 pm Crowes isnt in here jawing with you because hes laughing the roles are reversed and its the same argument coming from the other side.

shel311 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:48 pm Verified by Reuters, so credible:

Exclusive: Before Afghan collapse, Biden pressed Ghani to ‘change perception

The men spoke for roughly 14 minutes on July 23. On August 15, Ghani fled the presidential palace, and the Taliban entered Kabul. Since then, tens of thousands of desperate Afghans have fled and 13 U.S. troops and scores of Afghan civilians were killed in a suicide bombing at the Kabul airport during the frenetic U.S. military evacuation.

In much of the call, Biden focused on what he called the Afghan government’s “perception” problem. “I need not tell you the perception around the world and in parts of Afghanistan, I believe, is that things are not going well in terms of the fight against the Taliban,” Biden said. “And there is a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture.”

Biden told Ghani that if Afghanistan’s prominent political figures were to give a press conference together, backing a new military strategy, “that will change perception, and that will change an awful lot I think.”

Ho hum, no biggie. Wasn't a president recently impeached for a phone call with another country's president, and asking that president to lie and telling that president if he followed through there would be benefits for him and his country for doing so?

https://www.reuters.com/world/exclusive ... 021-08-31/

BFiVL wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:55 pm

ReignOnU wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:37 pm

BFiVL wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:14 pm Monday morning QBing here. No rational person would say the exit was handled well. However, he did keep a promise that the two previous admins said they would do. Get us out. Trump can say he would have done better all he wants but he didn’t. Easy to take shots when you didn’t make the call.

If this is how we keep promises now, I'd like to give him a pass on keeping any other promises.

And if we stay out will you have the same opinion? Loss of life is bad. The exit was shit. However, we are now out and no more soldiers will die over there.

ReignOnU wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:31 pm

BFiVL wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:55 pm

ReignOnU wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:37 pm

BFiVL wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:14 pm Monday morning QBing here. No rational person would say the exit was handled well. However, he did keep a promise that the two previous admins said they would do. Get us out. Trump can say he would have done better all he wants but he didn’t. Easy to take shots when you didn’t make the call.

If this is how we keep promises now, I'd like to give him a pass on keeping any other promises.

And if we stay out will you have the same opinion? Loss of life is bad. The exit was shit. However, we are now out and no more soldiers will die over there.

Of course I'd have the same opinion. Why the hell would I support him consistently fucking things up on the way to meeting an end? That's a pretty low bar to set.

shel311 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:48 pm Verified by Reuters, so credible:

Exclusive: Before Afghan collapse, Biden pressed Ghani to ‘change perception

The men spoke for roughly 14 minutes on July 23. On August 15, Ghani fled the presidential palace, and the Taliban entered Kabul. Since then, tens of thousands of desperate Afghans have fled and 13 U.S. troops and scores of Afghan civilians were killed in a suicide bombing at the Kabul airport during the frenetic U.S. military evacuation.

In much of the call, Biden focused on what he called the Afghan government’s “perception” problem. “I need not tell you the perception around the world and in parts of Afghanistan, I believe, is that things are not going well in terms of the fight against the Taliban,” Biden said. “And there is a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture.”

Biden told Ghani that if Afghanistan’s prominent political figures were to give a press conference together, backing a new military strategy, “that will change perception, and that will change an awful lot I think.”

Ho hum, no biggie. Wasn't a president recently impeached for a phone call with another country's president, and asking that president to lie and telling that president if he followed through there would be benefits for him and his country for doing so?

https://www.reuters.com/world/exclusive ... 021-08-31/

nick wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:26 am Republicans and their freedom.

That freedom includes no abortions after 6 weeks.. you must play the national anthem before sporting events! You also are limited in talking about critical race theory.

This is what freedom looks like. Texas is always ahead of the curve, usually covid but this time it’s freedom

ReignOnU wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:13 am Focusing on the <1% while missing the bigger picture... sounds like every liberal agenda.

ReignOnU wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:13 am Focusing on the <1% while missing the bigger picture... sounds like every liberal agenda.

BFiVL wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:19 am

ReignOnU wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:13 am Focusing on the <1% while missing the bigger picture... sounds like every liberal agenda.

I’m pro life for myself but I hate definitives. You have a law in place that doesn’t take in account things like rape, incest, and health of the mother. Seems silly to me. But hey. It’s just one percent

Crowes wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:56 am

ReignOnU wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:13 am Focusing on the <1% while missing the bigger picture... sounds like every liberal agenda.

Pot meet kettle? Conservative agendas are any different?

Throwing out a picture of a baby on an operating table and saying that is a true representation of abortions when the truth is actually the overwhelming majority of abortions that happen in this country are a woman takes pills then has a heavy period..... But hey you guys are the virtuous ones.