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Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:35 pm
by jsence2
Reporter friend of mine posted a very good question on Twitter this morning.....why wasn't the 12 ball underinflated? Did the equipment guy screw up, or were they hoping the 12th ball would be "proof" that it wasn't intentional?
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:42 pm
by packsyd2284
This is the stupidest most over analyzed thing on the planet. Not to mention it works against the Pats at times as well. You want your kicking balls to be inflated as they sail further and more accurately. Finally, this is just as much on the officials as anything else. They are supposed to be constantly checking for these things during the game. Chalk it up to two weeks of nothing to talk about leading up to the big game. Well done ESPN and co.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:57 pm
by Seeitsaveit13
packsyd2284 wrote: You want your kicking balls to be inflated as they sail further and more accurately.
Kicking balls are completely separate from this, they're not prepared ahead of time, and aren't with the 12 balls in question.
packsyd2284 wrote: Finally, this is just as much on the officials as anything else. They are supposed to be constantly checking for these things during the game.
The ref checks once before the game, and otherwise only checks for obvious scuffs/holes or giant changes in pressure. 2 pounds isn't all that noticeable, especially in cold weather when the refs likely had gloves on
packsyd2284 wrote: Chalk it up to two weeks of nothing to talk about leading up to the big game. Well done ESPN and co.
That part is true for sure, nothing to talk about so let's make a big deal out of this. If it wasn't the pats I feel like it would have already been gone from the news cycle
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:59 pm
by nick
Dwayne Allen came out saying Pats coulda played with Soap and beat Indy lol
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:00 pm
by shel311
jsence2 wrote:I didn't say anything about being a homer. You're going off the deep end right now. But please, ignore me and continue

Like cutting down the nets type deep end?
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:02 pm
by shel311
BFiVL wrote:I see this as a pitcher doctoring a baseball to thier liking. Some go a bit further than others. Teams are reportedly asking for a 3rd/4th round pick lost and a fine. Silly to me to think this isn't widely done.
It's a non-story for me. Just because it was made public, fine em $100k or something and let's move on.
I feel like it would barely be a story if it were any other team that won 45-7. The Saints would likely be somewhat of a story, but certainly not as big as NE.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:08 pm
by Seeitsaveit13
nick wrote:Dwayne Allen came out saying Pats coulda played with Soap and beat Indy lol

Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:13 pm
by packsyd2284
What's truly
Being overlooked here is, how awful was Andrew Luck Sunday and on the road for most of all this season.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:16 pm
by shel311
packsyd2284 wrote:What's truly
Being overlooked here is, how awful was Andrew Luck Sunday and on the road for most of all this season.
He was definitely bad Sunday, but he should get like 99% of the credit just for getting a team that mediocre to the AFC CG.
Also, solely on stats, his was only a little worse on the road in the regular season.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:17 pm
by packsyd2284
Seeit I know you love to disagree with every little thing I post but your are incorrect on the refs obligation to notice deflated footballs. I've personally coached in games where an umpire or back judge will throw a ball off and let us know if it isn't inflated we will be penalized if found again. It's not that hard.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:21 pm
by Seeitsaveit13
packsyd2284 wrote:Seeit I know you love to disagree with every little thing I post but your are incorrect on the refs obligation to notice deflated footballs. I've personally coached in games where an umpire or back judge will throw a ball off and let us know if it isn't inflated we will be penalized if found again. It's not that hard.
seeitsaveit13 wrote:otherwise only checks for obvious scuffs/holes or giant changes in pressure.
aka they're not measuring the pressure the make sure it hasn't changed .5 pounds etc. I never said they had no obligation, I said that it's not something they check constantly unless it becomes obvious to them. I also said it's not super easy to notice 2 pounds on an nfl ball wearing gloves, which I'm assuming they were. They don't carry gauges in their pockets during the game
Now who loves to nitpick and disagree?
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:23 pm
by Whittness10
Seeit is an expert on balls.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:23 pm
by Seeitsaveit13
Whittness10 wrote:Seeit is an expert on balls.

Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:26 pm
by shel311
Look at Seeit and Pat debating their little hearts out.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:29 pm
by Seeitsaveit13
shel311 wrote:Look at Seeit and Pat debating their little hearts out.
I'm still trying to shake off the Wednesday tacos before getting back to work, won't last too much longer though

Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:32 pm
by Seeitsaveit13
annnnd just like that I gotta go take down a media screen. Damnit, I knew I was gonna jinx it

Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:56 pm
by nick
i like that Pats argument is like "well i was on the field for a HS game!!" and Seeit can reply "i was employed by the Cleveland browns".. pretty sure with the pics Seeit would post, hes been on the field during a NFL football game
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:56 pm
by jsence2
packsyd2284 wrote:Seeit I know you love to disagree with every little thing I post but your are incorrect on the refs obligation to notice deflated footballs. I've personally coached in games where an umpire or back judge will throw a ball off and let us know if it isn't inflated we will be penalized if found again. It's not that hard.
Yeah, the guy who worked in the NFL, dealt with game balls, etc doesn't know what he's talking about. He's never coached HS football!
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:57 pm
by nick
wow me and jason wrote the same thing.. eerie indiana
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:02 pm
by jsence2
shel311 wrote:packsyd2284 wrote:What's truly
Being overlooked here is, how awful was Andrew Luck Sunday and on the road for most of all this season.
He was definitely bad Sunday, but he should get like 99% of the credit just for getting a team that mediocre to the AFC CG.
Also, solely on stats, his was only a little worse on the road in the regular season.
That Colts team is not very good, he's the only reason they had a winning record. Can't fault him for how bad their defense played and how poorly they ran the ball most of the year.