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Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:21 am
by ChampDizzle
dempsey did not look offsides, really

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:22 am
by trendon
Another asshole rule in soccer; offsides when deep. There should be no offsides called when you are within a certain distance from the goal, namely the goal box.

Such a fun game ruined by a litany of absurd rules and standards.

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:22 am
by jsence2
I really want to see the replay....

And England is in the lead, so a draw will NOT work. We must win now.

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:23 am
by jsence2
Unbelievable.

This is TWICE now. I swear if we don't go through....

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:24 am
by jsence2
trendon wrote:Another asshole rule in soccer; offsides when deep. There should be no offsides called when you are within a certain distance from the goal, namely the goal box.

Such a fun game ruined by a litany of absurd rules and standards.

Oh get over it already. They don't sit down and say, "how do we make Trendon happy?"

Everyone plays by the same rules. That said, that goal was good. Fucking bullshit.

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:26 am
by jsence2
What the fuck?!?!

USA had an advantage there, why is he calling it back?!?!?!?!

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:28 am
by trendon
jsence2 wrote:
trendon wrote:Another asshole rule in soccer; offsides when deep. There should be no offsides called when you are within a certain distance from the goal, namely the goal box.

Such a fun game ruined by a litany of absurd rules and standards.

Oh get over it already. They don't sit down and say, "how do we make Trendon happy?"

Everyone plays by the same rules. That said, that goal was good. Fucking bullshit.
Oh, I am sorry. I didn't know I have to say only happy footy thoughts.

Either way, there is no way you can defend that rule. The reason for the rule doesn't apply that close.

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:32 am
by jsence2
trendon wrote:
jsence2 wrote:
trendon wrote:Another asshole rule in soccer; offsides when deep. There should be no offsides called when you are within a certain distance from the goal, namely the goal box.

Such a fun game ruined by a litany of absurd rules and standards.

Oh get over it already. They don't sit down and say, "how do we make Trendon happy?"

Everyone plays by the same rules. That said, that goal was good. Fucking bullshit.
Oh, I am sorry. I didn't know I have to say only happy footy thoughts.

Either way, there is no way you can defend that rule. The reason for the rule doesn't apply that close.

I'm just tired of hearing you complain about rules, not just in soccer but other sports, that YOU don't like. These rules have been around for a long time.

And yes I CAN defend the rule. Offsides is offsides; it's to prevent cherry-picking. Now you want to make it even more of a judgement call? One ref might deem it's "too close to the line" for offside, where another might think it's not. Just stop whining about it; everyone has the same rule and that one wasn't that close, it was an awful decision.

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:36 am
by trendon
jsence2 wrote: I'm just tired of hearing you complain about rules, not just in soccer but other sports, that YOU don't like. These rules have been around for a long time.

And yes I CAN defend the rule. Offsides is offsides; it's to prevent cherry-picking. Now you want to make it even more of a judgement call? One ref might deem it's "too close to the line" for offside, where another might think it's not. Just stop whining about it; everyone has the same rule and that one wasn't that close, it was an awful decision.
Nice try. Cherry-picking? LOL! From six yards away. Just because "everyone has the same rule" doesn't make it less of a bullshit rule. Rules can be changed; this is one of about four that should be made immediately.

The offsides rule works for 98% of the field. You made mention that making the penalty kicks more difficult would result in less goals and would I want that? Well, having offsides rules when within 1-18 yards of the goal is worse.

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:37 am
by LetsGoPeay
GODDAMNIT!!!!!!

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:37 am
by trendon
Well, at the least, this game sure is a fun one! Now for some goals.

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:38 am
by jsence2
trendon wrote:
jsence2 wrote: I'm just tired of hearing you complain about rules, not just in soccer but other sports, that YOU don't like. These rules have been around for a long time.

And yes I CAN defend the rule. Offsides is offsides; it's to prevent cherry-picking. Now you want to make it even more of a judgement call? One ref might deem it's "too close to the line" for offside, where another might think it's not. Just stop whining about it; everyone has the same rule and that one wasn't that close, it was an awful decision.
Nice try. Cherry-picking? LOL! From six yards away. Just because "everyone has the same rule" doesn't make it less of a bullshit rule. Rules can be changed; this is one of about four that should be made immediately.

The offsides rule works for 98% of the field. You made mention that making the penalty kicks more difficult would result in less goals and would I want that? Well, having offsides rules when within 1-18 yards of the goal is worse.

QUIT. YOUR. BITCHING.

It's the rule, it's not going to change, deal with it. Fuck sakes!

Altidore can't fucking finish to save his life, it's getting frustrating!

Still not sure how Dempsey doesn't get a penalty when the guy wiped him out after his shot, he could've gone after the rebound.

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:38 am
by trendon
By the way, who is going to come on for Matt Moore of Algeria? Biff McCracken? Todd Anderson?

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:40 am
by ChampDizzle
seriously for someone that as a bright future, Altidore's present as been much to be desired. Hasn't shown much at all!

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:41 am
by trendon
jsence2 wrote: QUIT. YOUR. BITCHING.

It's the rule, it's not going to change, deal with it. Fuck sakes!
Quit YOUR bitching. I know you think you are like super cool because you like this quaint sport more than most, but sometimes - and I know this is, like, really hard to fathom - people see things they don't like about soccer.

They should change that rule. It should be off once the player with the ball is within the 18-yard box.

Don't fall for the pink elephant theory.

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:42 am
by trendon
42 minutes?! Shit. Feels like ten.

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:46 am
by jsence2
trendon wrote:
jsence2 wrote: QUIT. YOUR. BITCHING.

It's the rule, it's not going to change, deal with it. Fuck sakes!
Quit YOUR bitching. I know you think you are like super cool because you like this quaint sport more than most, but sometimes - and I know this is, like, really hard to fathom - people see things they don't like about soccer.

They should change that rule. It should be off once the player with the ball is within the 18-yard box.

Don't fall for the pink elephant theory.

You don't get it. With YOUR theory, the moment the ball is in the box, 4 guys can run and surround the goalie behind the defenders and obstruct his view for an easy goal by the guy with the ball. There's a reason the offside trap is a risk-reward defensive strategy. These rules have existed for 100 years, and nobody else seems to struggle with it. The Premier League plays with these rules and it's exciting and successful and the fans love it; it's not stupid, and it's not going to change. There are lots of things soccer fans see wrong with the sport--offsides isn't one of them.

You keep saying soccer has all these "absurd" rules--you realize there are only SEVENTEEN RULES in soccer??? You want ABSURD rules, go look at the NFL!

Hell, let's take away the blue lines in hockey, since we can just come into a sport and make random rule changes to make the sport more "appealing" to the person. Once you get across center ice there should be no offsides rule, I think the blue line is too close.

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:48 am
by LetsGoPeay
trendon wrote:By the way, who is going to come on for Matt Moore of Algeria? Biff McCracken? Todd Anderson?
Not sure, ask Packsy. He knows Matt Moore or haven't you heard.... 129 times....?

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:49 am
by trendon
jsence2 wrote:
You don't get it. With YOUR theory, the moment the ball is in the box, 4 guys can run and surround the goalie behind the defenders and obstruct his view for an easy goal by the guy with the ball. There's a reason the offside trap is a risk-reward defensive strategy. These rules have existed for 100 years, and nobody else seems to struggle with it. The Premier League plays with these rules and it's exciting and successful and the fans love it; it's not stupid, and it's not going to change. There are lots of things soccer fans see wrong with the sport--offsides isn't one of them.
See? That is how you counterpoint! I never thought of that. I see the problem now. Unlike hockey - where you can go and move the fucker in front - you'd be penalized every time you touched the guy in front and then we'd be back and me bitching about the ease of penalty kicks.

And don't get me started on the NFL.

Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:50 am
by trendon
jsence2 wrote: Hell, let's take away the blue lines in hockey, since we can just come into a sport and make random rule changes to make the sport more "appealing" to the person. Once you get across center ice there should be no offsides rule, I think the blue line is too close.
1) That is apples and lugnuts.

2) You know you don't even believe that.

3) Hockey isn't perfect either. They have some retarded rules as well.