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Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:12 pm
by wdoupis
shel311 wrote:wdoupis wrote:I know but that is what he always does. He never really has a reason or explains it.
This is my favorite part of the Billy debate, especially with pitchers.
He wants you to explain it, but he thinks using overall rating, WAR, ERA, and FIP are all useless for SPs, so it's his sneaky way of being able to say his pitchers are just as good "just cause" with no real reason, while telling me I have no real reason to say mine are better.
And this is my favorite part of Shel's debate, he just keeps making stuff up. The only one of those I said sucked in this game is WAR and it does. Never said anything about the others.
Here is what matters to me:
ERA
Richmond 3.56
Sheltown 2.98
Runs Allowed
Richmond 165
Sheltown 150
This is with Reyes off to a a terrible start.
I do think overall is kinda worthless but since he mentioned it why did he not list those?
Richmond
78/69/56/54/47
Sheltown
77/67/57/51/33
Guess because I am rated higher at 4 of 5 of them
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:14 pm
by Wasted Memory
wdoupis wrote:
This is with Reyes off to a a terrible start.
This. This made me laugh.
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:15 pm
by wdoupis
Wasted Memory wrote:wdoupis wrote:
This is with Reyes off to a a terrible start.
This. This made me laugh.
I do not care what his WAR is, this is a shit start
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:16 pm
by Wasted Memory
Ok. Let's run with that. Hillsboro's staff is better than yours. They're just off to a terrible start...
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:17 pm
by shel311
wdoupis wrote:I do think overall is kinda worthless but since he mentioned it why did he not list those?
So I mentioned 4 stats. You think WAR is a waste, overall is worthless, and you know you've told me you don't know anything about FIP, so take that out as well.
So there's only 1 left, ERA. What exactly am I wrong about?
I didn't post Overall because everyone has different overall ratings.
Also, some of your numbers are flatly wrong, their totals, we're talking about starters.
So, Billy, the guy who just said above that I never give any reasons or explanations is now arguing a point where YOU are not giving ANY data to show our rotations are a push. I, on the other hand, have given plenty of data, just see above.
Step ya game up!!!
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:17 pm
by shel311
wdoupis wrote:Wasted Memory wrote:wdoupis wrote:
This is with Reyes off to a a terrible start.
This. This made me laugh.
I do not care what his WAR is, this is a shit start
He wasn't as good as Bri Bry before his injury, and he's surely not as good as Bri post-injury with the big control hit he took.
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:21 pm
by wdoupis
I listed the overalls for SPs only based off OSA.
About FIP, I asked you what FIP was like 2 real life years ago and somehow that is the only thing I have ever said that you actually listened to and remembered lol
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:22 pm
by shel311
So...is there anything regarding production that suggests our rotations are a push?
Anything?
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:23 pm
by wdoupis
Wasted Memory wrote:Ok. Let's run with that. Hillsboro's staff is better than yours. They're just off to a terrible start...
Are you implying that Reyes is not great because that would be..... dumb
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:24 pm
by Wasted Memory
I think I still have a ton of conversations on Slack with Billy where he tells me he doesn't care about OVR!
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:24 pm
by wdoupis
shel311 wrote:So...is there anything regarding production that suggests our rotations are a push?
Anything?
In 43 games you have given up 150 runs, in 44 I have given up 165. That is a push to me
Now if you want to talk about how I have scored 56 more runs than you and that is why I am better we can do that as well.
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:25 pm
by wdoupis
Wasted Memory wrote:I think I still have a ton of conversations on Slack with Billy where he tells me he doesn't care about OVR!
Or you could just refer to my post 5 minutes ago when I said I think its worthless. I only listed that because Shel said something about overall
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:26 pm
by Wasted Memory
wdoupis wrote:Wasted Memory wrote:Ok. Let's run with that. Hillsboro's staff is better than yours. They're just off to a terrible start...
Are you implying that Reyes is not great because that would be..... dumb
Obviously I'm not stating that. But saying you're pitching is better/push based on what Reyes COULD be doing is a bit....eh
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:36 pm
by shel311
wdoupis wrote:shel311 wrote:So...is there anything regarding production that suggests our rotations are a push?
Anything?
In 43 games you have given up 150 runs, in 44 I have given up 165. That is a push to me.
To you, it's a push.
To me, it is moving the goalposts.
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:38 pm
by DRWebs
Going back to the start of 2055 since we're talking a smallish sample size this year. Make of it what you will, I'm not choosing sides just presenting a bigger picture
SHL: 3.09 ERA / 2.96 FIP / 3.35 xFIP
RCH: 3.33 ERA / 3.35 FIP / 3.31 xFIP
SHL: 8.34 K/9 / 2.14 BB/9
RCH: 8.79 K/9 / 2.36 BB/9
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:40 pm
by wdoupis
How is it moving the goalposts? Those are the stats I care about. Take all the other number and you want, I want to know how many runs my staff gives up and that is the answer
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:40 pm
by wdoupis
DRWebs wrote:Going back to the start of 2055 since we're talking a smallish sample size this year. Make of it what you will, I'm not choosing sides just presenting a bigger picture
SHL: 3.09 ERA / 2.96 FIP / 3.35 xFIP
RCH: 3.33 ERA / 3.35 FIP / 3.31 xFIP
SHL: 8.34 K/9 / 2.14 BB/9
RCH: 8.79 K/9 / 2.36 BB/9
Wow, what an insane advantage he has over me
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:41 pm
by Cnasty
Cnasty wrote:Sheltown
rotation: leaps and bounds better than Richmond
Richmond's lineup: better than Sheltown's
Richmond: shit division
Sheltown: best division in baseball top to bottom
Overall edge: Sheltown
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:50 pm
by caryr toronto
wdoupis wrote:File is uploaded, website updated. New in game date 5/22
Only 2 days left until draft begins and only 12 teams have a list, lets get on it!!!!!!!!!
Greeks and Gamblers have a bench clearing brawl..... All I wanted you to do was say thanks for the awesome logo!!!!!!!!
Carlos Ramos AL POTW..... again
Ronald Davies NL POTW
logo was great but I have team fired up this year
Re: 2056 Season Thread.... 7th Heaven
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:24 am
by wdoupis
File is uploading...