Time to change those Netflix plans

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brwnbear wrote:I am just puzzled that the only post that seems to understand the changes at netflix comes from a guy who admitingly uses pirated music and movies.
That's more part and parcel than you would believe. But, first, let me just say that I am not pretending to be all Robin Hood-like. I just don't feel the pressing need to NOT take this glorious opportunity to acquire music and movies in a easier and cheaper manor with a next-to-nil chance of getting caught. I am moral ... to an extent.

That aside, I actually get knots in my stomach thinking about the RIAA and MPAA. Even further, if I were more studious, I'd be in law school right now as I am extremely passionate about ending the lunacy surrounding intellectual property law or, at least, protecting the small business from these predatory patent lawsuits. As such, we have the music and movie industry, the busiest bees in the "Fuck you!" hive. Years ago, when I was fancying myself as a future bar & restaurant magnate and learning the ropes, I had the pleasure of meeting the douchebags from ASCAP (read below for some of their finer work). The short version: they represent the songwriters and composers of the songs we hear every day. Thus, if you have a business that plays music, you owe ASCAP money. They don't tell you how they came up with this number or where the money goes ... just give me; and I am not exaggerating. So, my boss and I said, "Fuck you." He was promptly sued and lost. Bar closed. This repeated three times over my life, once BMI added their fucking palms to the pile, too.

To put their lunacy in a quick sentence; they wanted money from a girl named April who would play at our bar by herself every so often. She was unsigned and had no designs on ever signing a record deal. ASCAP's stance: "We will collect dues for her just in case." I swear on every god you guys believe in that is what he said straight to my face. "Just in case." Are any of you real estate agents? If so, this is the equivalent of the carpenter looking for money from you every time you sell the house because he built the place.

So, in short, I am very in tune with what the movie and music companies are up to (re: I could have a third anti-Apple rant here, too).

And now poor Netflix is being taken to the cleaners. Again, it is little more than a team of bored attornies duping the MPAA out of a bunch of cash by scaring them into thinking the movie industry will crumble if NetFlix continues to "screw" them out of sales. They then offer a cure; in this case, my guess would be upping the licensing fees but I have no proof. Of course, this is going to cost the MPAA and fille lawyers' pockets. Of course, the plan is a bullshit red herring and the MPAA goes along for the ride because they are stupid. I always feel silly when I call major business executives stupid while I sit in a furniture-less one bedroom apartment, but that's what they are. You don't need to be a genius to see this happening before when it happened with the ...

... RIAA! Their cadre of legal thieves stole sacks of cash from the RIAA's conglomerate with the big idea to sue people - including your grandma - who had IP addresses show up in their log as downloaders. If they actually procured a few million dollars from it, I'd be shocked. Too bad for them stupid-ass Trendon and the rest of us normal people realized it before the RIAA realized it was too late they were being tricked by their legal councel more than any kid with a torrent was and stopped the lawsuits. It took ten fucking years for the record companies to come to where they are now - ya know, the 21st century - and play ball with iTunes, Zune, and Amazon if they hope to make any money. Sadly, they took dozens of honest and dishonest companies for the ride and every single one of us.

So, again, I hate these fucks more than you could imagine and I poke my nose in to every argument companies have with them because I can pretty damn sure their hands are tied.

And, in more Dave's territory, I just read that Goldman Sachs (ya know, one of the group of useless fucks that make sure you can't eat because your car needs gas) increased their share target to $330. This is a company that fires 20% of their employees just to keep everyone on their toes. They rarely miss their target and Armchair Trendon can't see why they would fail now. Netflix has no competition other than, maybe, Amazon prime. They'll spend assloads on licensing to increase their streaming library (everyone's number one complaint about NetFlix) and any competition will have to do the same. Can someone name a service as efficient and inexpensive as NetFlix asides from my fictional "Creative Acquisitions Movies, Music, and Games" LLC? I can't.

And, Dave, if I recall correctly, doesn't NetFlix have a history of shitting all over short sellers? if I had $264.99, I'd by a share right now.

By the way, this is the second time I have been THISCLOSE to unleashing an anti-Apple tirade but pulled back. :)
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Trendon ranting about the entertainment industry, likes Netflix though.
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We haven't had a good Trendon diatribe in quite a while.
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dakshdar wrote: They're cancelling when the price goes up, I think. I won't bother getting my own subscription as I've got 40 something HD movie channels through FiOS and still have the Blockbuster plan with the 3 at-a-time movies/games, free in-store exchages (unlimited), and two free game/movie coupons per month (for $19 still). And there is still a Blockbuster about 5 miles from my house that doesn't appear to be going anywhere (always pretty busy).
wow i have a blockbuster about 200 yards from my condo... 19 bucks for 3 at a time movies and games? and i can bring them back into the store?
That is what I pay. You can exchange the by-mail movies or games for movies in store (that you can keep for as long as you want, but they don't mail another until you return the exchange to the store). Don't think you can exchange in store for a game.

I use the 2 coupons on games because all regular store rentals are 1 night now.

And I checked, I'm paying $17.99 plus tax, which I think ends up at $19.

You can't get the 2 coupons anymore, I don't think, but the 3-at-a-time plan (movies and games available) with unlimited mailings and unlimited in-store exchanges is $19.99 (+tax) on their website. I think they dropped all their plan prices to compete with Netflix again (they had been up over $30 for that plan just a few months ago).
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i dont like this move. I really liked being able to search for a movie in one transaction. Now I am going to have to search through two different sites to find what I want to watch.
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brwnbear wrote:i dont like this move. I really liked being able to search for a movie in one transaction. Now I am going to have to search through two different sites to find what I want to watch.
Yeah plus the name "Qwikster" is gay.
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It sounds like one of these two divisions is going to get sold off at some point. I'd guess the mail business.

I think Netflix has some serious financial obstacles ahead of them. They don't own anything in the process which makes them pretty vulnerable to somebody else that can do it cheaper.
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Looks like Video game rentals will be part of Qwikster.
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I really don't see any benefit in staying with the streaming package before. I didn't think of getting rid of streaming til I saw that I'm going to have to use two different sites which takes away netflix's only advantage over any other streaming service.
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As TechCrunch noted this morning, the marketing geniuses who came up with Qwikster added to their shame by picking a name that's already used on Twitter by a guy who posts such gems as:

"Bored as shyt wanna blaze but at the same time I don't ugh fark it where's the bowl at spark me up lls"
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trendon wrote:This has been a great sociological experiment.

Raise fees 60%, lose 4% of customers; looks like the market will bear a higher price! You know who they learned this from? Big Oil who watched all of you limp-dicked pussies stomp your feet at the office water cooler about the price of oil ... and then went right about buying more at your normal pace.

As for blame, every person I have encountered in the past 72 hours who uses Netflix are really goddamned stupid. This isn't NetFlix fault. What they have for stream - which is satisfactory for, basically, nobody as they all bitch about the selection - cost them nine figures in content license costs as determined by the TV and movie distribution companies. That cost is about to go up tenfold. When your costs go up 10x, your fees have to go up. Need to assign blame? Blame movie rights holders. Pissing on Netflix itself is monumental idiocy.

Try telling that to your wife or girlfriend, you pussies. You won't.

"Yes, honey. Netflix ... bad!"
I'd pay money to listen to you on sirius radio and laugh my ass off. You have missed your calling!
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beercop wrote:
trendon wrote:This has been a great sociological experiment.

Raise fees 60%, lose 4% of customers; looks like the market will bear a higher price! You know who they learned this from? Big Oil who watched all of you limp-dicked pussies stomp your feet at the office water cooler about the price of oil ... and then went right about buying more at your normal pace.

As for blame, every person I have encountered in the past 72 hours who uses Netflix are really goddamned stupid. This isn't NetFlix fault. What they have for stream - which is satisfactory for, basically, nobody as they all bitch about the selection - cost them nine figures in content license costs as determined by the TV and movie distribution companies. That cost is about to go up tenfold. When your costs go up 10x, your fees have to go up. Need to assign blame? Blame movie rights holders. Pissing on Netflix itself is monumental idiocy.

Try telling that to your wife or girlfriend, you pussies. You won't.

"Yes, honey. Netflix ... bad!"
I'd pay money to listen to you on sirius radio and laugh my ass off. You have missed your calling!

He could go grassroots style and start a podcast.

Half the NDL would immediately subscribe and he'd be on his way.
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beercop wrote: I'd pay money to listen to you on sirius radio and laugh my ass off. You have missed your calling!

+1 for sure, its never too late!!!
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Looks like I was pretty wrong on that guess. I am sure they lost more than 4% of their customers.
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How soon do the new episodes show up on Netflix? I am considering dropping all my cable and just have internet. I pay like $45 for internet, but don't watch TV. My kids watch On Demand shows like "Adventure Time" "Mad TV" and some other shows like that. If we got Netflix on the main TV, I have PS3 on my TV. I tried to browse their selection online, but not being a member, couldn't really find the TV series available.
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cougnix wrote:How soon do the new episodes show up on Netflix? I am considering dropping all my cable and just have internet. I pay like $45 for internet, but don't watch TV. My kids watch On Demand shows like "Adventure Time" "Mad TV" and some other shows like that. If we got Netflix on the main TV, I have PS3 on my TV. I tried to browse their selection online, but not being a member, couldn't really find the TV series available.
I would not rely on netflix to keep up with your favorite shows. Hulu might be better for that.
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So, Qwikster is dead now. No word on if Netflix will rent video games or not. Netflix seems rather lost at the moment.
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Hoos wrote:So, Qwikster is dead now. No word on if Netflix will rent video games or not. Netflix seems rather lost at the moment.
What? LOL? I don't even know what to think. Who is their CEO? Investigate him! He is shorting Netflix stock. His bonus wasn't up to his liking so he is ruining the company. There will be watermarks and commercial breaks on their streamed videos next.
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shel311 wrote:
beercop wrote:
trendon wrote:This has been a great sociological experiment.

Raise fees 60%, lose 4% of customers; looks like the market will bear a higher price! You know who they learned this from? Big Oil who watched all of you limp-dicked pussies stomp your feet at the office water cooler about the price of oil ... and then went right about buying more at your normal pace.

As for blame, every person I have encountered in the past 72 hours who uses Netflix are really goddamned stupid. This isn't NetFlix fault. What they have for stream - which is satisfactory for, basically, nobody as they all bitch about the selection - cost them nine figures in content license costs as determined by the TV and movie distribution companies. That cost is about to go up tenfold. When your costs go up 10x, your fees have to go up. Need to assign blame? Blame movie rights holders. Pissing on Netflix itself is monumental idiocy.

Try telling that to your wife or girlfriend, you pussies. You won't.

"Yes, honey. Netflix ... bad!"
I'd pay money to listen to you on sirius radio and laugh my ass off. You have missed your calling!

He could go grassroots style and start a podcast.

Half the NDL would immediately subscribe and he'd be on his way.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zaVUN5H06w[/youtube]
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I thought the entire price change was based on the idea that DVD and streaming would be two separate entities?
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