My Shout Out's

[swellvermin]

Worry about making our slow ass, crashing Madden league a success and leave the NDL in the capable hands of Matt.

Lol concur

[nick]

swell cant even get a 32 team madden league together. he doesnt realize the difficulties of a 120 team league lol

[swellvermin]

Oh boy now we are calling ppl out, takin personal shots.....oh boy....

[yougoogelizer]

I don't think anyone is blaming Matt or anyone else that has ever been in charge...I'm seeing people express their dislike for the guys who obviously don't have enough respect for fellow coaches to post in a timely manner in the scheduling thread. Not sure how Matt or anyone else can 'force' guys to play their games...i mean he has already had to sim 24 games from 2 teams where coaches went ghost and then bailed late in the season...add that to the MAC games played and commishes going MIA...pretty sure he is just as frustrated as we are.

[The_Niddler]

How can it be that "its the only way it will work?" everyone here agrees to play 2 games a week. So if you dont, then get behind and play and win say 2 or 3 games to meet ur win goal, then you just forefit the rest of the open games that u needed to play?

If thats what it takes to make it work, then i aint playing shit till the end of season timeline comes out. First to get the WG then deuces to my other games that needed to be played.

ok, so we should "sim" ever couple blocks all unplayed games? then if you have unplayed games, we should boot you out? fine. who replaces those 45 coaches who are a few weeks behind?

I agree you have to take things into account.
We have 123 human owned teams in the NDL. Each of those 123 guys have real lives with real things going on.

I am not saying boot them, however, I have said it from my first season here, as much as I love the NDL, I always thought that we should sim games along the way.
Keep everything moving at the same pace.

You open weeks 1 and 2, give a deadline.
Games not played by the deadline, you sim, based on the scheduling thread and who was more active, then you advance to weeks 3 and 4.

This would make it much more enjoyable in my opinion and keep the polls on par as everyone would have the same amount of games played, like in real life.

But again, this is just my opinion. You guys have been doing this shit way longer than I have so I respect the way we do it, but I agree that we should hold those people accountable somehow if they come in at the last minute without posting in a scheduling thread to their opponent or even in the extended absence thread that they will be busy or away.
They could also post in their conference thread.

It is not hard to get a message out to your opponents if you are busy and I am 100% ok with giving people that post with legitimate reasons more time.



And I completely agree with whoever posted that if you see someone that is active in a Madden thread or OOTP or somewhere else and they are not caught up with their NDL games, by all means call that person out.
But ask them, don't assume you know what is going on.
They could just be trolling threads while at work and do not have time to actually be on the PS3, but can do things that just require internet access.

[nick]

Oh boy now we are calling ppl out, takin personal shots.....oh boy....

youre the one getting hot headed lol. youre arguing with a former commish...

[ajalves]

How can it be that "its the only way it will work?" everyone here agrees to play 2 games a week. So if you dont, then get behind and play and win say 2 or 3 games to meet ur win goal, then you just forefit the rest of the open games that u needed to play?

If thats what it takes to make it work, then i aint playing shit till the end of season timeline comes out. First to get the WG then deuces to my other games that needed to be played.

ok, so we should "sim" ever couple blocks all unplayed games? then if you have unplayed games, we should boot you out? fine. who replaces those 45 coaches who are a few weeks behind?

I agree you have to take things into account.
We have 123 human owned teams in the NDL. Each of those 123 guys have real lives with real things going on.

I am not saying boot them, however, I have said it from my first season here, as much as I love the NDL, I always thought that we should sim games along the way.
Keep everything moving at the same pace.

You open weeks 1 and 2, give a deadline.
Games not played by the deadline, you sim, based on the scheduling thread and who was more active, then you advance to weeks 3 and 4.

we'll agree to disagree.

I completely agree its disrespectful to not use the scheduling threads, not repsond to IMs etc etc. Guys should do everything in their power to play the games the weeks they are open. it would help with voting, potw, etc etc etc

Facts are, we arent all 15 anymore. Guys have real stuff going on. Real things happen (vacations, babies, internet shit)

In fact, i'd argue simming after every couple blocks would hurt the league. Why deny guys a chance to play their games, albeit late, when the season doesnt end till a certain amount of time? I could see that running guys off.

All that said, show me 100 QUALITY owners dying to get into an NCAA league from a wait list or the FARM or whatever and i'll volunteer to take back over when Matt is done and i'll boot mofo's like crazy.

[mbyrd75]

How can it be that "its the only way it will work?" everyone here agrees to play 2 games a week. So if you dont, then get behind and play and win say 2 or 3 games to meet ur win goal, then you just forefit the rest of the open games that u needed to play?

If thats what it takes to make it work, then i aint playing shit till the end of season timeline comes out. First to get the WG then deuces to my other games that needed to be played.

ok, so we should "sim" ever couple blocks all unplayed games? then if you have unplayed games, we should boot you out? fine. who replaces those 45 coaches who are a few weeks behind?

45 is a bit out there. The point is we're in week 4 and there are about 10-15 guys with 1-3 games played. That's just ridiculous. Some of them you know whats going on like Dray, Brett and a couple others but then there's these who have put 0 information there.

Georgia Tech- Relio 0-2 (i used to talk to him alot. Haven't heard from him but I see him on PSN almost daily)
Purdue- Gpaul62 0-3 (WHO?)
SMU- TBALL 2-1 (veteran no? i haven't heard anything as to why he has only 3 games in)
Buffalo- Hollywood 2-1 (last i heard he was having internet issues similar to Seeit's situation)
Eastern Michigan- Hugme49 1-1 (again...who?)
Ohio - Taruncheel 0-3 (another vet with no word from)
ULM- USmarine7t 1-1 (dont know the situation but he's what spurred my original post after seeing him ask about anyone joining Fantasy football then noticing his 1-1 record)

I mean 45 is a shel like exaggeration. There are another 5-10 in that 3-6 game range though. I think the point of it all is less about guys not playing and more about them communicating why they aren't playing.

And another note looking at the list most of these guys aren't involved in any of the "extra" stuff either. But i'd guess alot of the 3-7 games played crowd are

[ajalves]

How can it be that "its the only way it will work?" everyone here agrees to play 2 games a week. So if you dont, then get behind and play and win say 2 or 3 games to meet ur win goal, then you just forefit the rest of the open games that u needed to play?

If thats what it takes to make it work, then i aint playing shit till the end of season timeline comes out. First to get the WG then deuces to my other games that needed to be played.

ok, so we should "sim" ever couple blocks all unplayed games? then if you have unplayed games, we should boot you out? fine. who replaces those 45 coaches who are a few weeks behind?

45 is a bit out there. The point is we're in week 4 and there are about 10-15 guys with 1-3 games played. That's just ridiculous. Some of them you know whats going on like Dray, Brett and a couple others but then there's these who have put 0 information there.

Georgia Tech- Relio 0-2 (i used to talk to him alot. Haven't heard from him but I see him on PSN almost daily)
Purdue- Gpaul62 0-3 (WHO?)
SMU- TBALL 2-1 (veteran no? i haven't heard anything as to why he has only 3 games in)
Buffalo- Hollywood 2-1 (last i heard he was having internet issues similar to Seeit's situation)
Eastern Michigan- Hugme49 1-1 (again...who?)
Ohio - Taruncheel 0-3 (another vet with no word from)
ULM- USmarine7t 1-1 (dont know the situation but he's what spurred my original post after seeing him ask about anyone joining Fantasy football then noticing his 1-1 record)

I mean 45 is a shel like exaggeration. There are another 5-10 in that 3-6 game range though. I think the point of it all is less about guys not playing and more about them communicating why they aren't playing

its not an exaggeration. i'd bet you however much you want, that when weeks 3 and 4 opened up that at least 45 guys still had open games from weeks 1 and 2

[mbyrd75]

i dont agree with booting people for being a few weeks behind. things happen guys go on vacation etc etc. But for the guys that have played 2 of 12 games and stand to have 10 sim losses without a single post in a scheduling thread? I mean i think the setup now of simming at the end is the only real option. It'd be a shame for someone to lose a sim rivalry in week 8 because of a family vacation.

again my original post wasn't about booting anyone it was just a public "hey get on your shit" post

[ajalves]

i dont agree with booting people for being a few weeks behind. things happen guys go on vacation etc etc. But for the guys that have played 2 of 12 games and stand to have 10 sim losses without a single post in a scheduling thread?

generally those guys will be replaced at seasons end if they get 10 sim losses.

and for the most part you're usually talking about less than 5% of a 123 person video game league filled with adults that we have this "issue" with

[autiger730]

Instead of booting guys, what If we had participation point or some kind of penalties for guys who were not communicating? Draft spots, points, make them leave their team, suspend their board priveledges aft the second season, tons of different ways. Just get them to at least respond in some way.

[shel311]

i can't believe i forgot a belt buckle

Cowboy Dave is going to have some competition this Halloween from Cowboy Cal.

My sister in Dallas has this whole set up already bought including chaps, pearl snap shirts (whatever that is) and boots.

Highly doubt he overcomes Cowboy Dave though but will be fun.

Cowboy Xander will join in as well as he will be the Woody to his brother's Buzz costume.

That being said, their costumes came from Target, $14.99, so I think Xander will take the bronze in this competition.

[shel311]

I mean i get that all the other things might be better but the point is PLAYING your ncaa games is your pass to all those other great things. Alot of us don't love the way the game plays but thats what has to be done to be able to do OOTP or Madden or the Covers league or any of the other 20 things some of us do. If the NDL isn't "about" ncaa anymore thats fine but if you join you make a commitment to play your games no? He's not saying kill the other options he's saying fulfill your commitment to be able to enjoy those other things

True, but what I'm saying is if you enact what he's saying, the entire thing crumbles...quickly.

[shel311]

I think most of this Madden, OOTP, and such stuff should be forced to take place in the new eight month offseason, especially being that it uses the NDLs boards. Instead, the risk of people getting burned out with a massive full plate right now and none of those side leagues actually being there when we hit this new LONG offseason is real.

Like I said, great in theory, in the perfect world sense.

My opinion is: Take however long you think the shelf life is on the NDL, enact this rule, and you decrease that shelf live substantially.

[shel311]

How can it be that "its the only way it will work?" everyone here agrees to play 2 games a week. So if you dont, then get behind and play and win say 2 or 3 games to meet ur win goal, then you just forefit the rest of the open games that u needed to play?

If you were in charge, you would do what with those guys, kick em out?


Then how are you going to fill out 120 guys the next season?

[Weasel]

Instead of booting guys, what If we had participation point or some kind of penalties for guys who were not communicating? Draft spots, points, make them leave their team, suspend their board priveledges aft the second season, tons of different ways. Just get them to at least respond in some way.

There are already incentives in place to participate. These guys signed a coaching contract, its on them to fulfill it. It becomes a slippery slope when you start giving out "bonuses" to guys for doing shit theyre suppose to do

[autiger730]

Instead of booting guys, what If we had participation point or some kind of penalties for guys who were not communicating? Draft spots, points, make them leave their team, suspend their board priveledges aft the second season, tons of different ways. Just get them to at least respond in some way.

There are already incentives in place to participate. These guys signed a coaching contract, its on them to fulfill it. It becomes a slippery slope when you start giving out "bonuses" to guys for doing shit theyre suppose to do

Who is talking about bonuses?

[Weasel]

Instead of booting guys, what If we had participation point or some kind of penalties for guys who were not communicating? Draft spots, points, make them leave their team, suspend their board priveledges aft the second season, tons of different ways. Just get them to at least respond in some way.

There are already incentives in place to participate. These guys signed a coaching contract, its on them to fulfill it. It becomes a slippery slope when you start giving out "bonuses" to guys for doing shit theyre suppose to do

Who is talking about bonuses?

[Uuaww]

I think guys don't play games in a timely manner should get bowl/ranking bans.