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Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:57 pm
by packsyD22
I always found that my HB has a good game when he eats a box of these......especially on Heisman.
But nothing on Heisman or AA for that matter gets my QB going like a box of......
Just ask Aaron Rodgers and JJ Arrington back in season 3
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:14 pm
by ajalves
VeniVediV1ci wrote:
don't cutback too much because you'll get dinged on Coaches Reports, though
please....cutbacks after you hit the hole are way different then immediate bouncing
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:38 pm
by VeniVediV1ci
ajalves wrote:VeniVediV1ci wrote:
don't cutback too much because you'll get dinged on Coaches Reports, though
please....cutbacks after you hit the hole are way different then immediate bouncing
how many cutbacks after you hit a hole have you seen this year? I've seen about zero because there's too much crowding at the line of scrimmage so it's pretty much impossible because of how defenders leave blocks to make tackles so well.
...bouncing isn't even a problem in my opinion as it's just based off vision of the user so why does it get dinged so much? Beats me, but i think that if you know what you're doing you should be free to do it.
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:56 pm
by Hoos
Running:
Outside of running straight to the sidelines on inside running plays there shouldn’t be anything considered cheese in this game.
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:19 am
by fsupenguin
Hoos wrote:Running:
Outside of running straight to the sidelines on inside running plays there shouldn’t be anything considered cheese in this game.
Not sure what you mean by that. I still cannot believe how closed so many of you are too even giving a season on AA a chance. Does anyone like offense any more? Anyone who will have a crap team should love this idea, your not going to be able to defend the run very well with a lower rated team but on AA you would also have a chance to get a consistent running game going. I see it rewarding better play-calling an allow you to truly use your entire playbook successfully with any team, not just the most powerful ones. If you disagree with this please explain.
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:11 am
by DRWebs
You can use your whole playbook and have success with a balanced game or even run heavier game. It's just that in this game there aren't many big plays with that so you have to be creative and nickel and dime it
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:43 am
by fsupenguin
DRWebs wrote:You can use your whole playbook and have success with a balanced game or even run heavier game. It's just that in this game there aren't many big plays with that so you have to be creative and nickel and dime it
The key word is consistency. I do not expect to be able to just easily have a 1,000 yard rusher, in fact I have made that a goal several times for myself in the NDL and never come closer than just over 900 yards. AA really would bring more balance, defense would be an adjustment for sure, but right now I can throw for 300 yards each night if I want to, but I'll only gain 100 on the ground once a blue moon it seems. Maybe I'm wrong, but the numbers don't lie, it is crazy that so few backs broke 1,000 yards this past season.
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:11 am
by shel311
Here's a pretty simple breakdown.
There's probably only about 10 guys that have run well on this version.
There's probably only about 10-20 guys that have passed well on this game.
Again, thinking about what is best for the ENTIRE league, what about the other 100 guys that aren't doing either well??????????
Again, I've never played on AA, but it certainly seems like it could be a viable option given the reasons I mentioned above.
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:48 am
by Nole4real
shel311 wrote:.
Again, thinking about what is best for the ENTIRE league, what about the other 100 guys that aren't doing either well??????????
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Extra Bacon for you!
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:22 am
by GT25Ump
Noley baby, this is NOT a negative comment, I SWEAR
but WHY is this thread four pages long?
The next game will NOT be like this one, they never are. If we were considering making the change for this upcoming season, to try out AA, then I understand and it's NOT the craziest idea to do this, for this last season (occuring in Feb/Mar/Apr when alot of us don't give two shits about football (ha). At least all this thought would be valid, as we know this year's game and what AA "MIGHT" do, to improve the offensive side of the ball. But this is useless babble, for a game we don't know, coming in July.
We know EA fuggs with each game, every year, to make them all different. Next July's game could end up being the opposite of this one, where it's more challenging to pass and easier to run (which that's what it was, in last year's game, if u remember). Seeing we have no idea how the next game plays, why waste the time going around and around about this? This thread would make complete sense to me, if it was JUNE/JULY and we've received the usual propaganda from EA, tipping us off to what shit they jacked around with, this time, to try to make the game unique, special and supposedly improved!
Anyways, I just don't get all this conversation about something that we truly can't have any sort of real opinion on, until the next game comes out. But I'm sure someone will put me in my place here and completely correct me....
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:44 am
by Hoos
fsupenguin wrote:
Not sure what you mean by that. I still cannot believe how closed so many of you are too even giving a season on AA a chance. Does anyone like offense any more? Anyone who will have a crap team should love this idea, your not going to be able to defend the run very well with a lower rated team but on AA you would also have a chance to get a consistent running game going. I see it rewarding better play-calling an allow you to truly use your entire playbook successfully with any team, not just the most powerful ones. If you disagree with this please explain.
Somebody mentioned how they were docked points for cutting back. I was giving my opinion that the only thing that I consider cheesy is taking an inside running play and running 90 degrees to the sidelines – which I have not seen anybody do.
As for AA, as Dr Tom just said, next year’s game could be completely different. We always look at AA and Heisman when a new game comes out. I don’t really understand why there is an outpouring of AA support for next season’s game when we have no idea what it will play like.
Fucking Nole always starting shit.
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:47 am
by Cnasty
Dont worry, there will be another 9 page thread about it when the next game drops.
We are just practicing.
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:23 am
by GT25Ump
Cnasty wrote:Dont worry, there will be another 9 page thread about it when the next game drops.
We are just practicing.
GOOD RESPONSE!
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:29 am
by brocam
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:47 pm
by BIGmike
Dr. Tom - 1,000
Nole - 0
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:50 pm
by DRWebs
BIGmike wrote:Brocam - 1,000
Dr. Tom - 1
Nole - 0
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:59 pm
by shel311
Nole4real wrote:shel311 wrote:.
Again, thinking about what is best for the ENTIRE league, what about the other 100 guys that aren't doing either well??????????
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Extra Bacon for you!
Mission Accomplished!!!
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:43 pm
by DRWebs
Nole4real wrote:Extra Bacon for you!
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:47 pm
by ajalves
LOLCatz make every thread more fun and enjoyable, that fact can't be denied.
Re: Running the ball on heisman
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:19 pm
by WJ5811
Hart4Heisman wrote:VeniVediV1ci wrote:ajalves wrote:VeniVediV1ci wrote:
don't cutback too much because you'll get dinged on Coaches Reports, though
please....cutbacks after you hit the hole are way different then immediate bouncing
how many cutbacks after you hit a hole have you seen this year? I've seen about zero because there's too much crowding at the line of scrimmage so it's pretty much impossible because of how defenders leave blocks to make tackles so well.
...bouncing isn't even a problem in my opinion as it's just based off vision of the user so why does it get dinged so much? Beats me, but i think that if you know what you're doing you should be free to do it.
i hate ppl that bounce, but if im running a run play to the right, and see the left side of my OL surge forward and towards the right, u better fucking believe cutting off of their asses (as any good back will do). i guess u need to play me, any cutback i do is after i've hit the hole.. as crazy as it sounds, i spend most of my time running, right down the middle, or as close to the middle as possible.
EDIT: as for the topic at hand, im impartial, any way we decide is cool for me. would be nice to a change from throwing over the middle every single play since they cant get anything else going
Docking someone for making cutbacks is just being a bitch. If they run outside everyplay or run straight for sidelines then yes call them on it but if they hit the right side of the hole and then go through the line and cut back to the left or whatever thats just running the ball. This game is challenging to run because of the d-line and the RB's just flop over half the time when they get touched so running in a straight line at the defense is not an option.
