NFL Thread

[DRiccio21]

it's a really tough thing to just give the league access to review EVERY play.

it would never end. a huge run that has an obvious holding could be analyzed by one of the 200 cameras on the field and the other team would have a legit gripe but who really wants to deal with that every play.

stuff like this happens, it sucks but it happens. what hurts is that it can cost people their jobs.

[steelcitychaos]

I understand that rules that are not used everyweek could fall through the cracks because unfamiliarity of making the call. But almost immediately after the game the league issues a statement addressing that the wrong call was made with the ball intentially being knocked out of bounds, ovisouly the powers at be were watching and knew the wrong call was made, if you didn't have time to call the stadium to notify the officails of the call, why go public and issue a statement informing everyone that the officials screwed up?

[cougnix]

What is funny to me is that if he was in a position to bat it any other angle other than out of the endzone it would have been fine. I'll take it, seems like a silly rule. What also doesn't make sense is they keep saying that the ball can't be batted forward, but for the defense that ball was batted backwards, there should be a perspective in the rule. If the offensive player hits it that direction, it makes sense. I don't know, it is obvious that all the money the Seahawks saved on the Oline is kicking them in the ass. The Defensive player converted to Offensive Line thing isn't working out so well with Nowak and Sweezy. And the fact that Britt is so gawd awful is another strike on the Oline build. A lot of season left, but Russell can't Houdini every week and take that many hits if we plan to go as far as the last two season.

[packsyd2284]

it's a really tough thing to just give the league access to review EVERY play.

it would never end. a huge run that has an obvious holding could be analyzed by one of the 200 cameras on the field and the other team would have a legit gripe but who really wants to deal with that every play.

stuff like this happens, it sucks but it happens. what hurts is that it can cost people their jobs.

Im not asking for every play to be reviewed on every play. But when it comes to something that is cut and dry like that penalty should have been, someone should buzz and official and make the call. There was plenty of time to do so with Seattle celebrating etc. Again I did not know the rule but the play was an obvious miss call knowing the rule now and a team should not lose a game when a group of officials don't know all of the rules.

[DRiccio21]

you're not saying 'every play' now. but by opening that can of worms, you will eventually be asking for every questionable play to be reviewed.

if we didn't have replay at all, you'd never be asking for this play to be reviewed.

[packsyd2284]

you're not saying 'every play' now. but by opening that can of worms, you will eventually be asking for every questionable play to be reviewed.

if we didn't have replay at all, you'd never be asking for this play to be reviewed.

We've have had replay for so long now though that hypothetical doesn't work for me. It is a part of the game now. Like someone said coaches lose their jobs over close wins and losses, so certain situations call for attention. Especially if its something that easy to fix.

[nick]

i dont get how he fucked it up. Hes a ref, one of the 0.00001% of refs, the elite ones, and hes standing at the back of the endzone, looking at the play happen. He sees the obvious foul, and doesnt call it. That ref needs to be held accountable for a fuck up that obvious in a non reviewable play.

[ReignOnU]

Have you earned an officials license and ever reffed something?

I had my OHSAA license for basketball and thought I was going to do football before I actually got on the court and realized how fast paced it is. With all of the intricate rules in football, I scrapped that idea. Even at the high school level, the action happens pretty quick. When I see a repeated issue in any sport, then I question it. The 1 off stuff really doesn't get me riled up.

[cougnix]

I'm wondering how that play is "obvious" and "cut and dry"?

I guarantee none of you knew it was a penalty for Wright to bat the ball out of bounds. packsys you even said how "heads up" it was?

[Whittness10]

I thought you were allowed to do it. Like when a ball is snapped over a punters head and he runs and kicks it out of the end zone. Or is that not allowed anymore either? Or is it two completely different circumstances?

[cougnix]

I thought you were allowed to do it. Like when a ball is snapped over a punters head and he runs and kicks it out of the end zone. Or is that not allowed anymore either? Or is it two completely different circumstances?

I think it might be a defense only situation.

[ReignOnU]

So it should have been a safety against Seattle!

[packsyd2284]

I'm wondering how that play is "obvious" and "cut and dry"?

I guarantee none of you knew it was a penalty for Wright to bat the ball out of bounds. packsys you even said how "heads up" it was?

I am not asking for the guys on the field to get that one right, but they have guys in the stadium who can help them from up top. Buzz the white hat on the field, simply get in his ear with the ear piece, state that there was an obvious game changing foul, and make the right call. It isn't like it was a judgement call like PI or holding, it was cut and dry that he slapped it out of the end-zone.

[shel311]

I believe coaches should have the same amount of challenges they do now, but they should be able to challenge any type of play they want.

Think a PI was missed, challenge it. It's all reviewable.

It makes no sense to review whether a guy caught a pass, but can't challenge the KJ Wright play.

[DRiccio21]

I believe coaches should have the same amount of challenges they do now, but they should be able to challenge any type of play they want.

Think a PI was missed, challenge it. It's all reviewable.

It makes no sense to review whether a guy caught a pass, but can't challenge the KJ Wright play.

could you imagine if on a huge play in the superbowl they scored a td and the teams threw a flag and said, Check #75 for holding!

its a good idea when we discuss it cause we all want to get it right but its not really that practical, imo

[shel311]

I'm good with that, challenge the holding.

Like I said, you don't get any extra challenges.

I bet in the 70 or 80s, people would have said, can you imagine a huge super bowl play where a catch was challenged.

[DRiccio21]

fair, but you could literally save your challenges for a huge play then find a nitpick that was missed and it would overturn a play. there is a missed call on every play. whether a hold, illegal touching, illegal hands to face, pass interference, whatever.

you could basically use it like a get out of jail free card on any big play

[ReignOnU]

fair, but you could literally save your challenges for a huge play then find a nitpick that was missed and it would overturn a play. there is a missed call on every play. whether a hold, illegal touching, illegal hands to face, pass interference, whatever.

you could basically use it like a get out of jail free card on any big play

As long as the coach calls out what it is when he challenges for it, I'm totally good with it. I'm with Shel on this one. Choose the sword you die on. No limits.

[The_Niddler]

I am kind of on team shel here too.
I think they should either open it up to where any play can be challenged, but you still only have 2 challenges per game or you do away with replay and go back to old school and allow human errors to happen.

[ReignOnU]

I'm good with that... 2 challenges, but they keep rolling if you keep winning them. You lose them, you lose a TO. Keep it simple.