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The CF experiment didn't work out for Pat Jones so next up, second base

Spitters are hottt and that 1-5 in the lineup is a force to be reckoned with

DRWebs wrote:The CF experiment didn't work out for Pat Jones so next up, second base

Hey, when you see that 12 range, 4 error, 9 arm, and 5 DP you just have to try it lol. Its working out wonderfully too. -8 ZR in 10 games and an efficiency of .485!!!!! When does the players union step in?

wdoupis wrote:

DRWebs wrote:The CF experiment didn't work out for Pat Jones so next up, second base

Hey, when you see that 12 range, 4 error, 9 arm, and 5 DP you just have to try it lol. Its working out wonderfully too. -8 ZR in 10 games and an efficiency of .485!!!!! When does the players union step in?

Why not catcher at some point.

wdoupis wrote:

DRWebs wrote:The CF experiment didn't work out for Pat Jones so next up, second base

Hey, when you see that 12 range, 4 error, 9 arm, and 5 DP you just have to try it lol. Its working out wonderfully too. -8 ZR in 10 games and an efficiency of .485!!!!! When does the players union step in?

Kill his WAR through defense to keep arby numbers down? Intriguing strategy.

Roggie wrote:

wdoupis wrote:

DRWebs wrote:The CF experiment didn't work out for Pat Jones so next up, second base

Hey, when you see that 12 range, 4 error, 9 arm, and 5 DP you just have to try it lol. Its working out wonderfully too. -8 ZR in 10 games and an efficiency of .485!!!!! When does the players union step in?

Kill his WAR through defense to keep arby numbers down? Intriguing strategy.

He's playing 4D chess out here!

a quick run of the numbers, 77 pitchers are eligible to be drafted by Miami. Of those, only 29 i would consider drafting. slim pickings.

For real, though. It's a joke for the league that Pat Jones is in the field at all. Dude shouldn't even be at 1B. But CF with no range? If someone is joining the league and sees that, it looks bad because how purely idiotic it is. Absolutely zero reason for something like that to ever happen.

But don't worry, the real Jones, Bob, will be up in a couple sims and ready to go soon enough to show Pat how to play a complete game instead of just one part.

Roggie wrote:But don't worry, the real Jones, Bob, will be up in a couple sims and ready to go soon enough to show Pat how to play a complete game instead of just one part.

Bob looks so awesome, I want him

Roggie wrote:For real, though. It's a joke for the league that Pat Jones is in the field at all. Dude shouldn't even be at 1B. But CF with no range? If someone is joining the league and sees that, it looks bad because how purely idiotic it is. Absolutely zero reason for something like that to ever happen.

It also shows how broken OOTP is. Guy has elite speed but no range?!?

GeorgesGoons wrote:

Roggie wrote:For real, though. It's a joke for the league that Pat Jones is in the field at all. Dude shouldn't even be at 1B. But CF with no range? If someone is joining the league and sees that, it looks bad because how purely idiotic it is. Absolutely zero reason for something like that to ever happen.

It also shows how broken OOTP is. Guy has elite speed but no range?!?

The problem is that range incorporates many things, such as tracking, jump on the ball off of the bat, and actual ground covered. If a guy has zero sense to play the outfield, his range will be bad no matter how fast he is since he can't read the ball off the bat (Me playing the outifeld). They'll run down the occasional ball they can't get to, but they won't get to many that others who are slower do due to being TERRIBLE at judging the ball off the bat or tracking the slice on the ball.

That is not realistic though, you just don't see that in the show. I can't think of one guy with elite speed that couldn't track a baseball. A good example is Trea Turner. He played OF for the Nats one season because they were hurting out there and did perfectly fine, what would his OOTP rating be.... (15) but he's fast and an athlete, he figured it out!

These guys play baseball from the age of 5 to make it to the ML's, they're not going to look like a Little Leaguer in the outfield no matter the rating. Ian Desmond is another good example, an athlete that quickly learned to play the outfield and not be a liability.

Pat Jones would never exist in MLB. Of course there are guys that are elite defenders because of things like first step, reading slices and tracking. But your typical major leaguer with elite speed is catching 99% of balls in his direction.

SmittyRocks7 wrote:That is not realistic though, you just don't see that in the show. I can't think of one guy with elite speed that couldn't track a baseball. A good example is Trea Turner. He played OF for the Nats one season because they were hurting out there and did perfectly fine, what would his OOTP rating be.... (15) but he's fast and an athlete, he figured it out!

These guys play baseball from the age of 5 to make it to the ML's, they're not going to look like a Little Leaguer in the outfield no matter the rating. Ian Desmond is another good example, an athlete that quickly learned to play the outfield and not be a liability.

Pat Jones would never exist in MLB. Of course there are guys that are elite defenders because of things like first step, reading slices and tracking. But your typical major leaguer with elite speed is catching 99% of balls in his direction.

I didn't want to type all of this but what Smitty says. But a great example that an elite MLB athlete can play serviceable defense is Craig Biggio

SmittyRocks7 wrote:That is not realistic though, you just don't see that in the show. I can't think of one guy with elite speed that couldn't track a baseball. A good example is Trea Turner. He played OF for the Nats one season because they were hurting out there and did perfectly fine, what would his OOTP rating be.... (15) but he's fast and an athlete, he figured it out!

These guys play baseball from the age of 5 to make it to the ML's, they're not going to look like a Little Leaguer in the outfield no matter the rating. Ian Desmond is another good example, an athlete that quickly learned to play the outfield and not be a liability.

Pat Jones would never exist in MLB. Of course there are guys that are elite defenders because of things like first step, reading slices and tracking. But your typical major leaguer with elite speed is catching 99% of balls in his direction.

I have to agree with smitty on this one. Once you have elite speed you are going into the outfield the rest of your baseball life. Give them 50 rating if they cant read well. A zero would never happen.

SmittyRocks7 wrote:That is not realistic though, you just don't see that in the show. I can't think of one guy with elite speed that couldn't track a baseball. A good example is Trea Turner. He played OF for the Nats one season because they were hurting out there and did perfectly fine, what would his OOTP rating be.... (15) but he's fast and an athlete, he figured it out!

These guys play baseball from the age of 5 to make it to the ML's, they're not going to look like a Little Leaguer in the outfield no matter the rating. Ian Desmond is another good example, an athlete that quickly learned to play the outfield and not be a liability.

Pat Jones would never exist in MLB. Of course there are guys that are elite defenders because of things like first step, reading slices and tracking. But your typical major leaguer with elite speed is catching 99% of balls in his direction.

I'm not saying 35 (or whatever his range is) makes sense. If you have that sort of athletic ability with that speed, it should be minimum 60 or 70. I'm just saying that's how the range rating works in game, by encompassing other stuff.

lol ... most interest a Youngstown rookie has ever had.
I like it.

why not put Pat Jones in LF?

+ ZR (albeit 0.2) in 8 GS and 12 GP.. SMall sample but better than nearly -1 per few games every other position

nick wrote:why not put Pat Jones in LF?

+ ZR (albeit 0.2) in 8 GS and 12 GP.. SMall sample but better than nearly -1 per few games every other position

Or you could DH him and stop wasting time. If you really want to keep digitally embarrassing him in the field then just put him on 1B and move on

wdoupis wrote:

nick wrote:why not put Pat Jones in LF?

+ ZR (albeit 0.2) in 8 GS and 12 GP.. SMall sample but better than nearly -1 per few games every other position

Or you could DH him and stop wasting time. If you really want to keep digitally embarrassing him in the field then just put him on 1B and move on

Nah, let him keep playing him in positions where defense really matters and let him lose games because of it while we all laugh at how stupidly bad his defensive numbers are.