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Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:09 pm
by cougnix
I don't know why anyone would think I'm comparing Arizona to St. Louis based on the NFL news of yesterday, but ok I get it. More details needed on the stat and it is cleared up now yes?

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:16 pm
by ReignOnU
Hue Jackson is the new head coach for the Browns. This likely signals the end of the Billy Manziel era in Cleveland. It also likely points towards Jared Goff as their next QB.

I'm not overly excited about all of it, but Jackson was in my top 3 choices. I'm certainly good with moving on from Manziel and stabilizing the organization.

As for Goff... I'm skeptical, but could live with it. He doesn't give me the warm and fuzzy feelings, but I think that's because I get enamored with the things that a QB can beyond the basics. Cam can run like a monster. Big Ben can extend a play with his tank-like ability. There's something about these dynamic kinds of players that really makes me want to have that for my team. When I look at Goff I see a ceiling of Matt Ryan... and I don't know if that's a good thing or not. This draft mirrors Ryan's draft year in so many ways. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Ryan. I think he's a really good QB. There's just nothing flashy about him. He's a tall, skinny QB, that has good pocket awareness and can consistently make every throw. Bingo, that's Goff. When I type it out, it seems great. Do the fundamentals, do what you're supposed to do and do it well. Hell, maybe that's what this team really needs. If nothing else, maybe that fella can stop adding names to the back of the jersey.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:28 pm
by packsyd2284
Lawrence Phillips found dead in prison at the age of 40. So sad. Crazy how some people that are so talented never figure it out.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:38 pm
by DRWebs
ReignOnU wrote:Hue Jackson is the new head coach for the Browns. This likely signals the end of the Billy Manziel era in Cleveland. It also likely points towards Jared Goff as their next QB.

I'm not overly excited about all of it, but Jackson was in my top 3 choices. I'm certainly good with moving on from Manziel and stabilizing the organization.

As for Goff... I'm skeptical, but could live with it. He doesn't give me the warm and fuzzy feelings, but I think that's because I get enamored with the things that a QB can beyond the basics. Cam can run like a monster. Big Ben can extend a play with his tank-like ability. There's something about these dynamic kinds of players that really makes me want to have that for my team. When I look at Goff I see a ceiling of Matt Ryan... and I don't know if that's a good thing or not. This draft mirrors Ryan's draft year in so many ways. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Ryan. I think he's a really good QB. There's just nothing flashy about him. He's a tall, skinny QB, that has good pocket awareness and can consistently make every throw. Bingo, that's Goff. When I type it out, it seems great. Do the fundamentals, do what you're supposed to do and do it well. Hell, maybe that's what this team really needs. If nothing else, maybe that fella can stop adding names to the back of the jersey.
I dig the Hue Jackson hire, he was actually my top candidate wish for Philly. I can't imagine Andy Dalton is that much more mobile than Goff. Not many options out there unfortunately. The key for Jackson is finding a defensive coordinator that can turn that defense around. Doesn't help when you don't have the players though

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:27 pm
by ReignOnU
No idea where the defensive coordinator hunt is going to go. The fans seem to want Jim Schwartz. I could live with that. The system is similar enough that it wouldn't be a huge transition. I think he's the kind of guy that is a far better co-ordinator than he is a head coach. It's clear by the Bills performance in '14 vs '15 that he's still got the ability to put together. Beyond that, I don't even know who is on the market right now.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:30 pm
by DRWebs
ReignOnU wrote:No idea where the defensive coordinator hunt is going to go. The fans seem to want Jim Schwartz. I could live with that. The system is similar enough that it wouldn't be a huge transition. I think he's the kind of guy that is a far better co-ordinator than he is a head coach. It's clear by the Bills performance in '14 vs '15 that he's still got the ability to put together. Beyond that, I don't even know who is on the market right now.
Perhaps Teryl Austin from the Lions if he doesn't land a head coaching job. I don't think Caldwells chances are good to stay and in turn Austin could decide to leave if they pass over him and hire from the outside

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:52 pm
by nick
there's always optimism when someone new is hired/signed, but is it just me or Hue to Cleveland very meh?

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:54 pm
by jsence2
LetsGoPeay wrote:
jsence2 wrote:Shazier actually broke TWO rules on the hit.

Rule 12, Section 2, Article 6 states that you will be penalized for "using any part of a player's helmet or facemask to butt, spear or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily." He led with his helmet, and it should have been a penalty.

Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8 states, "Initiating Contact With the Crown of the Helmet. It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle to tackle and from three yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team's end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or tackler against an opponent shall not be a foul."
He's lucky Mark Stoops isn't his coach. Stoops would have personally marched off 15 yards and then would have knelt and handed the ball over to Marvin Lewis like Cornwallis surrendering to Washington.

It's funny how you're so obsessed with me that you try to make these elaborate comments about me....and nobody laughs.

Are you that bored with your life?

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:08 pm
by jsence2
So local ESPN guy made a very good point today.

Chargers owner hates Rams owner. Chargers get right of first refusal on a stadium share after they move in a year.

With the NFL moving to Europe soon, the Charger owner may decide to beat everyone else (mainly jacksonville) and move to London and get a brand new stadium and the entire market in Europe to themselves.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:54 pm
by nick
Europe isnt a market.. especially for players.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:07 pm
by cougnix
nick wrote:Europe isnt a market.. especially for players.
I would venture to guess players would opt out of playing in Europe. Would take a massive amount of money to play there

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:58 am
by Seeitsaveit13
ReignOnU wrote:Hue Jackson is the new head coach for the Browns. This likely signals the end of the Billy Manziel era in Cleveland. It also likely points towards Jared Goff as their next QB.

I'm not overly excited about all of it, but Jackson was in my top 3 choices. I'm certainly good with moving on from Manziel and stabilizing the organization.

As for Goff... I'm skeptical, but could live with it. He doesn't give me the warm and fuzzy feelings, but I think that's because I get enamored with the things that a QB can beyond the basics. Cam can run like a monster. Big Ben can extend a play with his tank-like ability. There's something about these dynamic kinds of players that really makes me want to have that for my team. When I look at Goff I see a ceiling of Matt Ryan... and I don't know if that's a good thing or not. This draft mirrors Ryan's draft year in so many ways. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Ryan. I think he's a really good QB. There's just nothing flashy about him. He's a tall, skinny QB, that has good pocket awareness and can consistently make every throw. Bingo, that's Goff. When I type it out, it seems great. Do the fundamentals, do what you're supposed to do and do it well. Hell, maybe that's what this team really needs. If nothing else, maybe that fella can stop adding names to the back of the jersey.

Some of the throws Goff made in that bowl game were downright impressive.

He seems to have the arm. You'll see about the rest I guess.

Who am I kidding? You'll trade down and draft Dashaun Goldson or something stupid. Because Browns.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:13 am
by ReignOnU
Or trade up to "ensure" we get Connor Cook at #1. FML.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:52 am
by DRWebs
Most are reporting the Eagles top candidate to be Tom Coughlin... Makes me sick to my stomach, couldn't have been a more underwhelming coaching search process

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:54 pm
by DRWebs
Chip Kelly to the 49ers...hard to see him working well with GM Trent Baalke considering their both power hungry

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:11 pm
by Seeitsaveit13
DRWebs wrote:Most are reporting the Eagles top candidate to be Tom Coughlin... Makes me sick to my stomach, couldn't have been a more underwhelming coaching search process

Thing I just read said they're no longer interested in him

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:18 pm
by DRWebs
Seeitsaveit13 wrote:
DRWebs wrote:Most are reporting the Eagles top candidate to be Tom Coughlin... Makes me sick to my stomach, couldn't have been a more underwhelming coaching search process

Thing I just read said they're no longer interested in him
That'd be great if true, reports have gone back and forth throughout regarding their seriousness. The first meeting seemed to be regarding a possible McAdoo hire but now I gave it more credence. Not sure where they go from here, Pedersen isn't exactly a primo candidate, maybe they'll wait on say a Matt Patricia

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:11 pm
by DRWebs
Eagles to hire Kansas City OC Doug Pederson...Meh hire for me but better than Coughlin. Even though I had Hue Jackson atop my wish list, I was hoping for a defensive mind after missing out on him. Beggers can't be choosers though I guess

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:00 pm
by Downing11
Keep these hirings comings! The more guys getting hired the more likely McDaniels and Patricia are staying put in New England.

Re: NFL Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:38 pm
by nick
Watching Concussion has really made me hate the NFL