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Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:02 pm
by VeniVediV1ci
can someone explain why the US is -1/2 (+158) and +158 ML
I get that the -1/2 means a tie is a push, but the +158 is to win in regulation not advance (-121) and this seems crazy
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:47 pm
by jsence2
VeniVediV1ci wrote:can someone explain why the US is -1/2 (+158) and +158 ML
I get that the -1/2 means a tie is a push, but the +158 is to win in regulation not advance (-121) and this seems crazy
The -1/2 (+158) means USA will win by one or more in regulation. If it goes to extra time or penalties, the under wins.
The +158 ML means they will win in regulation. If it goes to extra time or penalties, the draw wins.
Thus, if people are betting the same amount on the USA to win in regulation, whether it's by spread or by ML, the odds would be about the same.
Right now, I'm getting pick-em spread (-140) and +135/+200/+220 (USA, Ghana, Draw)
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:17 pm
by trendon
http://30fps.mocksession.com/2010/06/torresdivegif.html
Found this in a forum in a topic dedicated to the above gif
In related news, FIFA to instruct referees to card American players for moving in any direction at any time.
Actually, from what I heard, in the round of 16, the rules for the USA will be:
Offsides: red card
Onsides: yellow card
Hand ball: yellow card
Touching foot to ball: red card
HAHAHA
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:44 pm
by shel311
ChampDizzle wrote:I don't say "we" when it comes to Georgia or any other team.
Oops!!!
ChampDizzle wrote:Former Georgia Safety and current Alabama DC Kirby Smart on his way back to Athens!!! He will bring 4-star athlete Blake Sims with him. Here we come!
ChampDizzle wrote:Georgia is really fortunate only to be down 6-0 at the half. Just a bad half by our offense
ChampDizzle wrote:It didn't help that our ginger QB is playing like Opie!
ChampDizzle wrote:yeah and our field goal kicker
ChampDizzle wrote:ok, now we need a scoring drive!
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:53 pm
by Seeitsaveit13
In the spirit of the thread....
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:54 pm
by trendon
Stop posting that LOLcat!!!! I feel so bad for the kitty.
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:02 am
by buckeye76
trendon wrote:Stop posting that LOLcat!!!! I feel so bad for the kitty.
I agree trendon....
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:03 am
by Cnasty
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:42 am
by jsence2
Thank you Shel for doing the legwork. I owe you one
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:46 am
by shel311
jsence2 wrote:Thank you Shel for doing the legwork. I owe you one
No problem.
People who freak out over saying "we" when referring to a team, that's just one of my pet peeves.
/looks in Weasel's direction
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:17 am
by Easportsbama
shel311 wrote:jsence2 wrote:Thank you Shel for doing the legwork. I owe you one
No problem.
People who freak out over saying "we" when referring to a team, that's just one of my pet peeves.
/looks in Weasel's direction
When it's a different country...go fuck yourself.....and ya, I'm drunk bitch...wazzup
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:26 am
by shel311
Easportsbama wrote:shel311 wrote:jsence2 wrote:Thank you Shel for doing the legwork. I owe you one
No problem.
People who freak out over saying "we" when referring to a team, that's just one of my pet peeves.
/looks in Weasel's direction
When it's a different country...go fuck yourself.....and ya, I'm drunk bitch...wazzup
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:30 am
by VeniVediV1ci
jsence2 wrote:
The -1/2 (+158) means USA will win by one or more in regulation. If it goes to extra time or penalties, the under wins.
The +158 ML means they will win in regulation. If it goes to extra time or penalties, the draw wins.
Thus, if people are betting the same amount on the USA to win in regulation, whether it's by spread or by ML, the odds would be about the same.
Right now, I'm getting pick-em spread (-140) and +135/+200/+220 (USA, Ghana, Draw)
Fuck, wish I knew the way it worked with 100% confidence as I was second-guessing myself, but in conclusion it was a mistake that I should have grabbed
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:36 am
by VeniVediV1ci
now i'm thinking I don't understand again.
I realize that some teams you can get at +1 so you win with a draw or a SU win and push if they lose by 1, but how is a -1/2 different than a ML? You have to win in regulation for both so I'm guessing it's relevant for the +1/2 on Ghana so if they do anything BUT lose in regulation then you win.
...it just seems like the same bet and now the US ML is +163 and the -1/2 is +158
don't understand why it's not the same amount, as I'd just grab the higher number if I really wanted to bet it
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:46 am
by Easportsbama
shel311 wrote:Easportsbama wrote:shel311 wrote:jsence2 wrote:Thank you Shel for doing the legwork. I owe you one
No problem.
People who freak out over saying "we" when referring to a team, that's just one of my pet peeves.
/looks in Weasel's direction
When it's a different country...go fuck yourself.....and ya, I'm drunk bitch...wazzup
LMFAO.....That's the best man!!! Sorry but "WE" won, so go shave Jsence pussy so he can get ready for another fucking Fifa ride tomorrow!
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:10 am
by shel311
Easportsbama wrote:Sorry but "WE" won,
Champ wants to know what number YOU were during that game.
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:32 am
by trendon
shel311 wrote:jsence2 wrote:Thank you Shel for doing the legwork. I owe you one
No problem.
People who freak out over saying "we" when referring to a team, that's just one of my pet peeves.
/looks in Weasel's direction
The New Jersey Devils were the first team I ever referred to as "we." For starters, it made the sentence shorter; a skill that even eight year olds learn. However, about the same age, I learned another thing: when I care about the haphazard flight of a distant ball AS MUCH as I care about my family and friends ... is it we, our, us, etc.
"It is foolish and childish, on the face of it, to affiliate ourselves with anything so insignificant and patently contrived and commercially exploitative as a professional sports team, and the amused superiority and icy scorn that the non-fan directs at the sports nut (I know this look -- I know it by heart) is understandable and almost unanswerable. Almost. What is left out of this calculation, it seems to me, is the business of caring -- caring deeply and passionately, really caring -- which is a capacity or an emotion that has almost gone out of our lives. And so it seems possible that we have come to a time when it no longer matters so much what the caring is about, how frail or foolish is the object of that concern, as long as the feeling itself can be saved. Naiveti -- the infantile and ignoble joy that sends a grown man or woman to dancing and shouting with joy in the middle of the night over the haphazardous flight of a distant ball -- seems a small price to pay for such a gift. "
That was said half a century ago by the greatest sports writer you never heard, Roger Angell. Any sniveling person that wants to take umbrage with "we" and "us" is either just beiing a needler or isn't a sports fan.
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:28 am
by LetsGoPeay
Hell of a match going on between South Korea and Uruguay. South Korea has been very impressive so far in this second half.
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:39 am
by jsence2
LetsGoPeay wrote:Hell of a match going on between South Korea and Uruguay. South Korea has been very impressive so far in this second half.
I threw $30 on Uruguay just seconds before the first corner, thank you Suarez!
Date placed:
Jun 26, 2010 11:35 (Placed by Web)
World Cup (Game) Moneyline
FIFA World Cup 2010 - South Africa - Round of 16
Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port Elizabeth (LIVE IN PLAY)
90 minutes + injury time only. Extra Time or Penalty Shoot-Outs do not count towards wager
(1112) Uruguay +245 Sat@10:00a
Competitor:(1113) South Korea
Risk US$ 30.00 to win US$ 73.50
Re: ***Official World Cup Talk Thread***
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:55 am
by nick
jsence2 wrote:LetsGoPeay wrote:Hell of a match going on between South Korea and Uruguay. South Korea has been very impressive so far in this second half.
I threw $30 on Uruguay just seconds before the first corner, thank you Suarez!
Date placed:
Jun 26, 2010 11:35 (Placed by Web)
World Cup (Game) Moneyline
FIFA World Cup 2010 - South Africa - Round of 16
Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port Elizabeth (LIVE IN PLAY)
90 minutes + injury time only. Extra Time or Penalty Shoot-Outs do not count towards wager
(1112) Uruguay +245 Sat@10:00a
Competitor:(1113) South Korea
Risk US$ 30.00 to win US$ 73.50
you're the best dude. I'm sure you won a lot of money on Italy beating Slovakia too
