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Hart4Heisman wrote:man... i would love it... if i saw some difference between teams....


for example.
if i played OU/WV/Colorado and they would run a hurry up type offense (huddling when clock stopped and whatnot) then personally i think that would be kinda cool... get back to what college football is all about. i personally think you could still run an offense like that and keep it in the rules.

Never happen under our current rules but I would love to see it. Orginal rules were meant for getting rid of the cheesy style of the online east room. As long as I can remember online cheesers have been running hurry up offenses but it was usually with the same set of cheesy AI abusing plays. I would love to see it work though with a straight offense under NDL rules about running different plays.

WJ5811 wrote:

Hart4Heisman wrote:man... i would love it... if i saw some difference between teams....


for example.
if i played OU/WV/Colorado and they would run a hurry up type offense (huddling when clock stopped and whatnot) then personally i think that would be kinda cool... get back to what college football is all about. i personally think you could still run an offense like that and keep it in the rules.

Never happen under our current rules but I would love to see it. Orginal rules were meant for getting rid of the cheesy style of the online east room. As long as I can remember online cheesers have been running hurry up offenses but it was usually with the same set of cheesy AI abusing plays. I would love to see it work though with a straight offense under NDL rules about running different plays.

im gonna start running no huddle offense on people that ive played regularly and of course i will give them ample warning in advance.

In fact, I ran no huddle on Hart in our game, did it NO good as I think I turned the ball over but its different. Especially since u can change the formations and u can choose run, deep pass, quick pass and pa pass.

It also teaches people who run 4-3 against a 5 wide a lesson.

nick wrote: It also teaches people who run 4-3 against a 5 wide a lesson.

Some of us dont spy offensive formations every play.

If you come out in 5 wide in short yardage, or 1st down, there is a solid chance i'll be in 4-3 or 3-4 or something.

ajalves wrote:

nick wrote: It also teaches people who run 4-3 against a 5 wide a lesson.

Some of us dont spy offensive formations every play. .

That could be the 1st step in fixing your defensive struggles you've been talking about.

I usually matchup, but like you said in short yardage situations, I may go down 1 notch, but I definitely wouldn't go to a 3-4 against a 5 wide set, maybe a 335 or nickel.

The No Huddle Offense thing could be really interesting.

Imagine having X amount of teams that actually qualified for it. Sure anyone can run no huddle in a 2 minute drill, but why not clearly establish certain teams as 'eligible' because their real life counterparts do so?

And from there you can skew the game to balance out the attack by having constraints on playcalling...For instance, when you call a play from the play calling screen you have a plethora of formations to choose from already.

You select one and go to the line of scrimmage...Now, if you armed with one play from your playbook and the biggest downside of No Huddle is you can't revisit your playbook in the full capacity as you would if you huddled up every play.

So besides the one play you chose already, you have a small list of audibles to reference. Pending on your formation, your Quick Audibles (PA Pass, Run, Deep Pass, Quick Pass) will change accordingly. As for your hard audibles (square, triangle, circle, etc..) those plays will be executed as designed no matter what personnel is on the field.

So from there, you generally come to the line of scrimmage with about 9 different plays you can choose from (not to mention route route combinations). Say we put a constraint on things like... you're not allowed to run the same play consecutively whether completed or not, despite the flow of the game... how bout you are mandated to change your hard audible plays at half time completely? or even at the end of each quarter? No hot routes in the your opponents Red Zone?

I can think of a slew of reasons why No Huddle wouldn't work, (player match ups, go-to-guys sometimes playing out of position, chronic fatigue to name a few), but to the same point, there are a ton of reasons why we should entertain the possibilities of it.

sometimes its just faster to goto the play call screen than to run no huddle, plus your players get tired alot faster, not sure why anyone would want to do that the whole game.

VTrunNgun wrote:Imagine having X amount of teams that actually qualified for it. Sure anyone can run no huddle in a 2 minute drill, but why not clearly establish certain teams as 'eligible' because their real life counterparts do so?

You cant possibly only have certain teams eligible based on real life. We shouldn't run offenses based on how teams in real life do it. If any person wants to run a spread, and throw in some hurry up, they should be able too, even if you wanna do it with Navy, go ahead, lol.


I don't see ANY problems with hurry up...if done the right way. If you, for example, come out in a 4 WR set, and have your audibles set up to where you have 3 other 4 WR sets, throw in the quick audibles from there, and you have about 20 plays you can run from this hurry up.

It's great IN THEORY, but in the end, I think we know that lots of people wouldn't take kindly to it.

If I had to run Miami's offense the last few years on this game I would be in the room with the padded walls.

The reason for this thread now is I wanted to bring it up while its fresh in everyones mind.

Its right on the heels of the main point of their being only five 1,000 yard rushers for a 119 team league. Well below even NDL's "video game world" average.

Its brought up now because we're in the middle of the 3 leg season and everything we are discussing is current.

Would it be better for me to reference the amount of 1,000 yard rushers we had back in Season 14..............in July?

Would people REALLY remember the pain of having such a pass dominated game? Would the aruguments for both sides be as poignant as they are now in pointing out things we are seeing in the game as we play the game?

Silly boys the answer is no.

Brocam accused me of beating a dead horse...and was right but this is precisely why I have to repeat stuff 4-5 times and will say it again.

this thread was not created to lobby for aa...it was not created to try to switch now to aa.....it was not made to convince you to vote AA on the next game.

As ive said 4 times already, it was made to hopefully convince everyone that when the new game does come out, that you REALLY consider whats best for the league as whole when voting AA or Heisman.

...not just simply blindly going heisman....or even blindly going aa because thats what you liked during your scrims because it made the game easier for you....im asking people to think about a 3 season year and most improtantly as ive said before...think about the league and all the coaches who play but dont post as much as some of us do.

Tis point or this "request" is best made whilst in the middle of the "gaming year" instead of after not playing the game from March through July.

lolzcats4lyfe

Hey Nole...STFU.

Nole4real wrote:Would it be better for me to reference the amount of 1,000 yard rushers we had back in Season 14..............in July?

Yes.

Thank you.


Please dont take away my bacon.

BIGmike wrote:Hey Nole...STFU. I like it like it is...it allows me to dominate with my sick sweet user mad skillz. I dont want anyone having fun playing the game but me. yeah, thats how i roll

oh alright big guy. I see your point. I b quiet now.

shel311 wrote:

ajalves wrote:

nick wrote: It also teaches people who run 4-3 against a 5 wide a lesson.

Some of us dont spy offensive formations every play. .

That could be the 1st step in fixing your defensive struggles you've been talking about.

I usually matchup, but like you said in short yardage situations, I may go down 1 notch, but I definitely wouldn't go to a 3-4 against a 5 wide set, maybe a 335 or nickel.

well it doesnt seem realistic/sim to me

BIGmike wrote:

My Darth Vader pic fails how?

nick wrote:

WJ5811 wrote:

Hart4Heisman wrote:
It also teaches people who run 4-3 against a 5 wide a lesson.

i do have to agree with this.

buckeye76 wrote:

nick wrote:

WJ5811 wrote:

Hart4Heisman wrote:
It also teaches people who run 4-3 against a 5 wide a lesson.

i do have to agree with this, get burned alot on the 4 wr set draws and runs, but oh well, dont see too many teams lining up in there 43 or 34 or 46 defense against 4 wides in the Ncaa. But i guess thats part of the strategy. i just match up, im bad enough at the game, atleast i have a defender (corner) on a wr in man....

i was playin a buddy and he wasin 4-3 and i was in 5 wide so i no huddled and scored in 3 plays lol.

ajalves wrote:

shel311 wrote:

ajalves wrote:

nick wrote: It also teaches people who run 4-3 against a 5 wide a lesson.

Some of us dont spy offensive formations every play. .

That could be the 1st step in fixing your defensive struggles you've been talking about.

I usually matchup, but like you said in short yardage situations, I may go down 1 notch, but I definitely wouldn't go to a 3-4 against a 5 wide set, maybe a 335 or nickel.

well it doesnt seem realistic/sim to me

I dont follow.

In real life, defenses wait til offenses send in packages then adjust accordingly.

I don't think I've EVER seen a 4-3 package against a 5WR set in real life.